[Closed] MTB leadership costs

Trust me, you are being very, very tight indeed. MTB leadership is among the very, very cheapest outdoor leadership schemes.

Its cheap compared to other outdoor pursuits as said above. But what do you actually get from it. Kayak or climbing instructor for instance seems like you could get work out of it but mtb leadership just seems a bit crap.

Follow me and heres a plaster if you fall

Its a string to the bow I guess, and would add some confidence to people booking guided riding trips, which is something im thinking about doing in the future. The first aid course obviously is handy anyway.

You don't actually need Child Protection in Sport.

But on the other hand, one Training Day and one Assessment Day - what scheme are you following?

I've so far done TCL 2 Days training and 1 assessment, MBL 2 days training and 1 assessment, BC Level 3 training 3 days training already and 2 days assessment booked for the spring...

Plus of course first aid every 3 years.

In comparison my ML was 5 days training and 5 days assessment - same first aid.

But on the other hand, Training Day and Assessment Day - what scheme are you following?

Just looking at doing the new mtb leadership course - level 2.

Is that BC?

mtbguiding - I thought MBL was equivalent to BC level 3? Did you just choose to do the new course?

firestarter - there is a smidge more to it than that! 😆

I would say i know but go on then humour me whats involved 😉

Yes Mtbguiding. Looking at [url= http://cyclewise.co.uk/index.php/mountain-bike-qualification-courses-and-awards/mountain-bike-qualifications-british-cycling/british-cycling-level-2-leadership-course ]this from Cyclewise[/url]

On good days, it's just like that. Other days... 😉

Just curious as ive done heaps on map reading in the forces loads of first aid in the fire service and done the working with kids stuff all the vetting and can fix most bike and person problems 🙂 also have a teaching qual as im an instructor at work so needed it

£420 is a fraction of what it costs to become, say, a qualified snowboard instructor.

have a look at the CTC course i have done the MTB leaders and MTB Technical leaders course

very well run great format run over 2 days

have fun

firestarter - well, if we're being serious, then I do quite a lot of teaching and coaching as well as simply "follow me". The hardest part though is picking the right trails for the group. I'm lucky to have a huge number of top-class trails to pick from, but I also have to work with a large proportion of the trails being relatively difficult. Maybe about 10% of the time, I get to just hoon around and do whatever trails I like, the rest of the time, there's a fine balancing act to be done! I think this is especially true in an Alpine environment. Often, once you've dropped into a trail, it's hard to change your mind and it can be a very long way to the valley if you've picked the wrong trail!

If you have instructor / leadership experience in other sports then, of course, that goes a long way.

Somebody has to pay for the pointlessness of all these changes in titles.

Cheers sounds similar to other things tbh i was a climbing instructor in the army and did guiding in Switzerland as a job when i left for a while . Thanks

@Stevomcd It sort of is but as I see it, BC L3 is marginally a higher qualification as its longer training and longer assessment and its all about leading - no instructing. As my business really is all about takng people into wild and remote environments, I can't help feeling I would be in my interest to be as qualified as possible in case anything ever goes wrong.

As an aside from covering my behind, getting as much training as I possibly can can only be a good thing and as a professional I kinds feel it's my duty to take advantage of any opportunity going.

Not sure I really need the stress though 🙂

Wait while I toto up the cost of :
Outdoor education teaching degree
RYA dingy instructor, SI dinghy and powerboat instructor.
ML summer and winter trained
SPA
GNAS
BOF level1 and 2
LCMLA Derbyshire
WWSR, Foundation safety, 1,2,3 and 4 star kayak, mod water kayak, 1,2,3,4 and 5 star canoe, mod water canoe, coaching processes, Level 2 coach kayak, level 2 and 3 canoe.
TCL and MBL, now just deferred a UKCC L2 cycling
RCD ropes course instructor
Minibus d1 and D1E for trailers
And I think 7 first aid courses over the years.

And then some one wants me to work for £18-22k per year... 😕

Aye - but it's not like doing [i]real[/i] job....

Don't get any qualifications then move to a country where they are not recognized. $500 to get an IMBA qualification now I live in the USA (plus insurance etc) when I'd had a Brit tick for years.

@ mtbguiding - did you have to do the BC L2 before doing going on the L3? Or could you go straight to it from having done MBL?

Just remember MBL is leading. UKCC L2 and 3 are coaching.
These are related and overlapping in real world, but very different skills to develop.

BC MTB leadership L2 and L3 are leadership too, not coaching

So BC now have UKCC L1, 2 and 3 coaching, with discipline specific and separate Level 1, 2 and 3 leadership?
Ho hum.

TCL or MBL would be prerequisite to BC L3.

And yes, BC have guiding and coaching awards running parallel to each other. The L3 I refer to is the leading award and there is no instructing or coaching involved. With MBL there is a certain amount of instructing/coaching.

It's hard to actually compare the 2 things as they are different but as I said from a professional point of view I'd like to be as qualified (and competent) as I can.

Yeah, guiding and coaching running as separate qualis is OK with me.

You don't need to be a guide to run coaching sessions on the DH track at fort Bill. You don't need to be a coach to lead a group on the Tour de Mont Blanc.