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[Closed] MTB coaching vs. equestrian coaching musings

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I keep thinking about getting some coaching, particularly as there are areas of my riding I'd like to work at.

I think I'd be much keener to get a regular session with a coach than a half day session. Essentially, I've never had any coaching, and so much as when I've been out with far better riders I've been given some really useful tips, I don't have that feedback to know I'm actually putting those tips into practice correctly! Having done karate a long time ago, and even done a bit of coaching in that myself, I'm aware of how different what you are doing and what you think you are doing can be.

I feel like if I did have any coaching, anything I do would be so ingrained that one or two half days would never get it out of my system.


 
Posted : 14/06/2016 3:56 pm
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Still tempted by a couple of half day 1-to-1 sessions on the bike, but its a lot of cash to invest in something where i don't have someone watching to make sure i'm on the right track.

A 1-1 day with Jedi or Nathan is the best £210 you'll ever spend on your biking, a group (public ie 8 people) lesson is £95 (prices from memory)

OP make no doubt coaching/lessons are fabulous but unlike horse riding where you go once a week which in many casis is yoir riding, on biking you go once every few years and ride / practice (ie session) the rest of the time. If the majority of riding I did was in a group or on lessons I probably would give up.


 
Posted : 14/06/2016 4:04 pm
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I could do with safe practice more than coaching. I *know* I have the skills to do big jumps/doubles/gaps but I don't have the balls. Some really nice easy progressively larger jumps to 'session'.

The planks at Cwmcarn were good.. RIP Cwmcarn planks...


 
Posted : 14/06/2016 4:05 pm
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I think it's a great question to be honest

Regular golferists will get a lesson to help with part of their game

Even hobbyist motorcyclists doing the odd trackday will get an instructor for a session to provide a few pointers (I know I have, and I definitely won't be racing)


 
Posted : 14/06/2016 4:59 pm
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I coach mainly at jnr/youth level but have coached adults also. What does surprise me is the reluctance of some people to consider coaching but I do think the image of MTB'ing has a bit of problem as reflected by the GNAR rating of photos of downhill racing, getting air, gap jumps and all the other stuff that even the most committed of us only do 10% of the time. I was skiing for the first time in 5 years back in Feb and didn't hesitate to choose a lesson to get me back in the groove. I do get requests from time to time at my local club to put on adult coaching for MTB. For some I think they don't want their deficiencies exposed and I have friends who can ride a bit but would really benefit from some structured coaching, yet I know they would never do it.

This is a good and relevant point :

If you want to lean the bike more and perfect weight distribution to corner faster, the penalty is falling off lots, which for (sane people at least) is not fun and hurts.


 
Posted : 14/06/2016 5:01 pm
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This type of coaching certainly does exist. My closest trail centre (well bike park) offers a wide variety of weekly and monthly coaching options for adults and kids. I know other trail centres I frequent offer coaching and I suspect they can offer a similar arrangement.

Before I moved recently there was a guy who lived nearby who was in the coaching game. I know he would have happily agreed to an hour or so every few weeks or months for a cost less than those horsey prices.

Also my cycling club used to run an informal coaching session once a week in the summer. Just where a couple of more experienced riders helped pass on a few skills. Even just cycling regularly with a club is a good way of picking up tips from others who are a bit better or a bit more knowledgeable.

There's certainly other options out there other than paying many hundreds of pounds for a one off day's coaching.


 
Posted : 14/06/2016 9:28 pm
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There's am element of "it's just bikes, everyone can ride a bike, right?"

There's also an element of riding the terrain you've got. The riding I did in the Chilterns has almost nothing in common to the riding I do now in Calderdale. If I'd have done training here and then moved to the Chilterns all those lessons would have been pretty pointless.

There's an element of knowing that to be good at something (coached or not) you need to do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over...And for many people MTB is the "thing they do on a Sunday morning" to get away from the kids and the missus for a couple of hours. The idea of doing a corner or a drop of or nailing a rock entry to a series of drops enough times so it becomes second nature is anathema, there just isn't the time.

There's an element of most folk knowing that they've got to get to work on Monday morning. I can't rock up to work with teeth missing or my face smashed up 'cause I was spending all Sunday nailing that tricky DH steep switch back with the rock in the middle that forces you to go for the corner gap...


 
Posted : 14/06/2016 9:50 pm
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Some people offer this style of coaching, and it seems popular:
[url= http://www.alinecoaching.co.uk/the-evening-sessions/ ]All booked up this year [/url]


 
Posted : 14/06/2016 10:46 pm
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Halfway of mtb coaching you have said is £200, that is 4 hours. 1 hour with the Olympiad is £70...so 4 hours would be £280...
You can't 'get' multiple things in 1 hour on a bike...it needs time to run through it and start to Embed it...horse riding, I think, has less large bad habits to break so an hour seems more beneficial.


 
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