[Closed] mounting a shock the right way round on the frame...

Im confused, which of those pivotty-looking things is actually not a pivotty thing, but fixed? One of them has to be shirley?

If I was fettling/bodging something myself then I'd be happy with it the wrong way. If I'd paid good money to a shop I'd want it right. The normal way is supposed to better for keeping the lubricating oil in the right place

Would it fit the other way round - doesn't look like there's much clearance at the top?

Stoner

Its the lower shock eyelet thats fixed. Another silly Specialized shock design.

Gonzy is that a new shock from Push?

It wont fit the other way round as current shape Enduros have a key in the lower shock mount. The Fox one will be done at the factory, the RS one will have been machined to fit the key. It is machined at that end because that part is easy to remove from the rest of the shock and a lot cheaper than the stanchion if they bugger it up.

how does it "fix", is the eyelet of the shock keyed or something?

Stoner see edit.

gotcha.

what a dumb design 🙂

sorry guys but the images above were for illustration purposes only...i dont own those bikes...
the shock in question is a rock shox monarch rl and it going on the bike below...
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i've fitted the shock to the bike but at the moment the shock face the same direction as the shock on the red and black frame...just wanted to know is this the wrong way around or would it be better to have it the other way round...

and this is the shock in question....

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Stoner - Member
gotcha.

what a dumb design

Certainly is. I would quite like to replace the coil shock on mine with an air shock but can't because its different again.

http://www.specialized.co.uk/us/en/bikes/mountain/endurofsr

^^^^The S-Works one has it fitted upside down^^^^

sorry guys but the images above were [s]for illustration purposes only.[/s]

Just to confuse everyone

😳 sorry!!

Patriot

Thats because its a special factory built shock. If you look closely you will see that there is no eyelet on the CCDBA on the S-Works as there is a bot that just goes straight into the body of the shock.

Just wasted ten minutes of my life googling Spesh shock images 🙂

Oh and Gonzy

It doesn't really matter on that frame. If the spacing is the same you can just undo the shock bolts and turn it the other way round.

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The blue bike in your pic has the shaft at the front/top ..

I like this thread. It has potential.

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Personally if it fits I would fit it the right way round.Not like this.
Go rigid less faff.

If the spacing is the same you can just undo the shock bolts and turn it the other way round.

the spacing isnt the same on the frame...so i'll have to drift out the mounts from the shock eyelets and install them the other way around...i was hoping that i would be able to get away with it as it is...

[i]i was hoping that i would be able to get away with it as it is... [/i]

they've replicated the way that the old shock was mounted and that didn't cause any problems?

Can you reach the controls?

It doesn't look as good but won't affect performance, if your happy then leave it as it is.

bike in your pic has the shaft at the front/top ..

so does that mean the new air shock can go on with the shaft at the front/top or should the shaft be facing the other way?

Found a few pics of air shocks and they are all the other way round though, with the shock upside-down

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Dont know the bike but that's not the ideal way round whatever

1, Oil runs away from the bushes (as mentioned before) so you will get shaft wear quicker
2, Greater un-sprung mass means poorer performance

Unlike specialized to do that by design

Ask em on Facebook?

Greater un-sprung mass means poorer performance

Not really, all of the oil is inside the stanchion so its not really going to make much difference if any at all.

they've replicated the way that the old shock was mounted

to be honest i bought the frame second hand and the shock came facing that way even though the manufacturers images show the shock to be facing the same way as in nick1962's image....
the shock on my frame was pretty much borked as the rebound didnt work properly and the reservoir was leaky...so i dont know how well it would perform in that position from before...

Can you reach the controls?

It doesn't look as good but won't affect performance if your happy then leave it as it is.

i've still yet to take it for a test ride so i guess i should try it like this to see how it rides first...

It will ride exactly the same as if you turn it the other way round.

It will ride exactly the same as if you turn it the other way round.

so it doesnt matter which way the shock faces?

Not really, all of the oil is inside the stanchion so its not really going to make much difference if any at all.

The difference may be marginal but its still a difference so why mount it incorrectly for no reason??

...and it will definitely wear out quicker which is more important

after taking all opinions into consideration and having a long hard stare at the bike last night i decided it didnt look right so i did the switch...

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I'm sure that's better - the only thing moving now is the cylinder and the oil/air.

Previously it was everything else, valving and more weight.

I'd guess the previous way round might have not performed as well, and perhaps starved the outer seals/foam rings of oil.

Did it take long?

Did it take long?

took about 15 minutes to do everything... 😀

Haha. Coo. Enjoy the riding, brother.

My air shock is mounted like so. On the CCDB Air the can end is far lighter than the damper end, but its fitted purely this way round so it fits.

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ndthornton - Member

...and it will definitely wear out quicker which is more important

Doubt it tbh, the oil doesn't just sit at the bottom of the shock, it gets flung around constantly and coats everything thoroughly. Only difference will be that the seal isn't bathed while the bike's parked, though with the shock at such an angle most of it won't be regardless of what way up the bike is. No different to a fork.

What Northwind just said, the sprung mass will be affected with the heavier end nearer the swingarm, however whether you'd even feel this is questionable 😉

The main issue is whether the shock makes contact with the frame at any point in it's stroke.

OK For sure I defer to LoCo here - he's the man.