This is what I use. It's small, light, cheap and loud, and has adjustable sensitivity so won't go off if the wind wobbles your bike:
KINOEE Bicycle Alarm, Anti-Theft... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08F592WQQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Oh and even a reusable zip toe or two (or a light cafe lock) would probably slow down a drunken dafty who thinks they might just pick up your bike and ride off. Could always bring a wheel or pedals inside your tent porch for a similar effect.
Something like the Hexpeak Tipi might let you get the tent in the porch with a separate sleeping area.
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I use a Nordisk, before that a Hilleberg. The Hilleberg (Akto) was bombproof, lasted years, but twice the weight. I wouldn't have a single skin tent, condensation hell plus a few other downsides....
Luxe Minipeak II might be an option but not sure if I’d want a bike in it.
https://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/shelters-1/WF126-139.html
MSR used to do a tent called the Hubba Tour. We've got the 2-person version, weighs 2-2.5kg and you can definitely fit a bike in the porch, probably two. You'd have to take the wheels off though. Can't find them online any more but you might get lucky on ebay.
Personally I just take a bivvi bag and sleep next to my bike though.
I have a single pole teepee tent by....erm Lan Shan
Goes up outer only and I reckon you'd get a bike in with one person if you really really wanted too. Comes with an inner also.
No sleeping bag and the bike inside your tent, sounds comfy!
Seriously though, the weight saving can be counter productive, having a nice warm sleep for the extra weight of sleeping bag and decent mat should not be overlooked.
You can pull a disassembled bike in after you into one of the bigger tipi tents mentioned. I've done it myself once on an extremely dodgy Ayrshire coast campsite, pikey central, when I got caught out by ferry timetable changes.
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But a big tent and no sleeping bag? The OP is a fantasist. Stop wasting your time with well meaning suggestions.
singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/most-packable-lightweight-tent/page/2/#post-12273883
Anagallis’ tipi looks like a direct copy of the GoLite SL3 I use. One can put a bike inside if one wishes but I have only gone so once up above Uffington white horse. After that I never bothered. Flysheet in saddle bag along with sleeping bag, poles in frame bag along with pegs. Use deet if you’re bothered by midges. Never been an issue for me.
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It would be for the summer in the south of England. SDW.
I’d go during good weather so low chance of rain or storms. Wasn’t going to bother with a sleeping bag, but would take an inflatable ground mat and emergency bivvy incase I get cold.
If I go down the route of taking cable locks I’d need the tent to be nearer 1kg.
TBH, the requirement sounds much more like a mat, sleeping bag, bivvy and/or tarp would suit better than a tent.
I'm not sure having you and the bike fully undercover for a bit of fair weather summer wild camping would be a massive advantage.
Putting up a tent Vs a tarp for some temporary cover as sunset approaches is probably a bit of a 'six of one, half a dozen of the other' type debate. I suppose it come down to how much you like/are able to improvise in those kind of situations, some people just like to know they can pitch their tent pretty much anywhere and not worry about finding an appropriate spot for a tarp...
If you're really worried about roving, rural bike thieves a bit of para-cord tied between the bars and your wrist might be enough(?)...
So you aren't going to use a sleeping bag, as nuts as your tent idea.....
Start afresh. You intend to camp in in southern England with nights so warm you apparently think you won't need a sleeping bag. That's not a frequent occurrence.
Do what I do
Get a lightweight Alpkit bivvy bag and mat and a lightweight down bag. I'd just use midge repellent on you face as the bivvy opening need be no more than an inch. And run a chain to your arm if you continue to be paranoid....... If you use a bivvy you can sleep loads of places out of sight.
Er that's two of us with the same idea. I recently did the Sandstone Way with a bivvy
I've got a single skin tent - Mountain Equipment direkt 2 - packs tiny, 1.3 kilos, one night the condensation won't be the end of the world but wouldn't fancy a cosy night with the bike though I tihnk it's possible.
You need the sleeping bag more than the emergency bivy. I've got a down 2 season bag that's tiny and very good, (M E Xero 200) but not cheap. If you really need the emergency bivy, sue your tent, tarp, but I don't think you do
Taking your bike inside a tent to use as a pillow whilst not using a sleeping bag sounds bonkers to me. Have you tried this system out yet? I doubt it will work well. If you don't wake up to your house alarm going off then I could probably slice through your tent with a Stanley knife and steal your bike & kit as you slept (it'd be much quieter) so bike outside makes no odds.
Personally I leave the bike outside of my Lanshan double skin tent (linked above) and use a sleeping bag, I've used a small cable tie type lock for the bike (same as I'd use if popping into a shop to resupply).
The suggestions are certainly making me reconsider getting a decent bivvy bag.
I've had my bike inside a tent in the past, but a larger 3 person tent. My main reason for having the bike inside a tent is so anyone passing won't know its there. If its outside it could still be tampered with without me knowing. Though an alarm would help as suggested above. Even if I just put the wheels inside the tent I'd be more comfortable than leaving it all outside.
If I go down the bivvy route I'd get one with a mesh section over my head so bugs (flying or crawling) won't get in. The tarp idea to cover everything sounds like a good option.
My recommendation would be a Black Diamond megalight or similar shaped tent. They are under a kilo, ****ing massive and you can put your bike inside if you're camping somewhere shady (...e.g. a campsite).
It really is the most versatile type of tent. They do incredibly well in the wind considering how basic they are.
You can then buy a range of inners, ground sheets and everything in between to suit the conditions you are working in.
Mountain Equipment direkt 2
Mountain Hardwear rather than ME?
lightweight down bag
Is that just a lightweight sleeping bag?
As has been said, definitely bike outside and camp where no one knows, arrive late, leave early.
A tarp with your bike as support, wheel off is the easiest and cheapest option for both camping and security.
Tent wise, alpkit soloist, lunar solo, terra nova laser competition, trekker tent.
Or just a bivvy bag and no tarp or tent.
I do all of the above depending on the weather and the midge forecast. But tent is the last choice.
Alpkit is a great one stop shop for all your needs.
hammock, and hang the bike above you.
sorted
Correct - Mountain Hardwear - for a specialist piece of kit it's seen a lot of non specialist use. That plus mat plus sleeping bag is really small, sub 2 kilo and has worked down to minus a fair few
Yes, kightweight down sleeping bag. The BD megalight is a good suggestion tho'.
Or in the hammock theme. Hammock with bike as counterweight holding you up - any monkey business from bandits, you are woken by falling on the ground.
A down bag is filled with duck down [tiny under feathers]. The highest quality is Eider [a northern duck] down. Some folks object to using duck down on ethical grounds though it's still just about the warmest per weight. I object to the needless use of synthetics which pollute degrade and then pollute some more. I used a Rab summer bag, the lightest they make, and inside a bivvy it was good down to 10 c. Unfortunately high up on Hadrians Wall the first night was 7....
You really need to keep weight at an absolute minimum offroad. I plan to do the transcambrian and possibly the Pennine Way this summer, before I'm completely past it.
Shit
What about this:
Topeak tent
What stops anyone stealing your front wheel? Thus, ruining the next day.
Shit
Fair enough! 🤣
Alpkit have been doing inflatable 2 man tents….fewer issues with packing shape. As my previous suggestion, I’ve not used one. I use a decathlon 2 person and highly rate it.
What stops anyone stealing your front wheel?
The fact it's holding up your tent?
OP, do think it through. There's a reason that people use sleeping bags, that tarps, tents and bivvy bags are common, that few people bring a bike inside a tent etc. You seem to be suggesting things that are very unusual, suggesting you've not much experience, and dismissing 'normal' and proven ideas and approaches.
For summer SDW, bivvy bag and tarp only if rain forecast. You may get a heavy dew in the morning. There are no bugs which bite (IME).
There is no-one about between 9pm and 6am in places you are likely to camp, you might see the odd other weekend warrior overnighter, fell runner or cycling type. More likely to have your bike nibbled by a curious sheep or peed on by a dog on an early morning walk than tampered with by some random person...
I have a couple of trekkertents. the stealth 1.5 is very light, under 1kg and comfy for one the Drift custom weighs under 2 kg with poles could easily take one person and a bike but as above why?
If you are really paranoid tie the tent to your bike. No one is stealing it without waking you
I too have a TT Stealth 2 and a Drift Custom 4 🙂 Great tents.
I overthink things way too much which is my biggest problem.
What kind of sleeping bags pack up small? I'll probably attach the tent/bivvy to my bars so will need to be creative with where things go.
Again down bags pack really small. You can easily get the bivvy mat and sleeping bag all in one bar bag
I overthink things way too much which is my biggest problem.
If it helps:
Provided you haven't camped right by the path next to the local dogging spot/spliff bench then:
The chances of someone passing your bivvy spot are pretty small.
If someone does pass, the chances of them spotting you in the dark are also small.
If they do spot it, they're probably outdoorsy people with a similar mindset to you, not wrong 'uns.
And if they do try to nick your bike, even if you're a deep sleeper, the chances of you sleeping deeply enough in a bivvy not to notice are tiny.
Honestly, you'll be fine. Camp off the path/behind a tree, bag as a pillow, bike in a big gear and right beside you
I've lux mini peak 2, fits me and a bike in it when required, with a carbon pole its less than 2kg too I really like it
Honestly, you’ll be fine. Camp off the path/behind a tree, bag as a pillow, bike in a big gear and right beside you.
This.
If you’re still worried then thread a guy line through yr spokes and tie it off somewhere on the bike. If you’re double-worried carry a small cowbell with cotton wool in it. Tie it to the bike and remove cotton before sleep. Or get a Timber! bell and leave set to ‘on’
