I could do with some new MTB shoes, I really like the look (ie colour) of the S-Works "Cvndsh" edition road shoes:
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But... they're road shoes. What do we reckon on 'converting' them for MTB use? Could use some of [url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-cleat-adaptor-spd-spd-r/rp-prod28896?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Shopping&utm_name=UnitedKingdom&gs=1&gclid=CP2O-LOylcACFc3LtAodx0cAbg&gclsrc=aw.ds ]these[/url] to fit SPD cleats, dunno what the stack height's like, if they'd be any good etc. I remember seeing some pro who'd used road cartridge brake pads for some 'tread' on road shoes, I'm wondering if you could do that, perhaps combined with some Sugru for some mid sole tread to avoid 'skating over the pedals when you clip in' incidents. Or get some SIDI SRS tread blocks and attach them somehow?
Reckon it would work? Complete disaster? I guess forefoot tread would be lacking - no studs.
I'm not really going to be walking on them per se, wandering around to get my bike, plus the odd 'dab' and what not, but nothing with any 'hike a bike' type stuff.
I could just the get the S-Works MTB shoe, but I don't like the colours. Yes, I'm that vain.
You want them too much.
Unless you are mad handsome and doing photo shoots for a French mountain bike magazine you will have to, I'm afraid, get less fashionable shoes.
The biggest issue isn't the tread or the cleats anyway. White mountain bike shoes, pffff..... 🙄
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The biggest issue isn't the tread or the cleats anyway. White mountain bike shoes, pffff..
Aah no, you see I have white ones, and 3 years on they're perfect still. The Spesh ones are a sort of patent type finish, so they wipe clean really nicely.
The current ones are black, or black/red, neither of which appeal! If I'm spending £200 on a pair of shoes I want to like them!
Shimano ones are blue. The yellow Mavic ones would be good, but a bit of an unknown, Bontrager ones are red... decisions decisions!
Do it njee,go kawazzee with a drill on those suckers.
Even better,enter a few cross races and get someone to film you on the running sections.
Even better,enter a few cross races and get someone to film you on the running sections.
Well... no, because I said that I'd not be doing that. I'm not pretending they're going to be adequate walking/running shoes, but they don't need to be.
Bontrager RXXXXXXXXXXXLs are flipping unbelievable. You will get cold feet though.
if I'm spending £200 on shoes (hahaha) I don't want to be ****ing around with cleat adaptors and sugruIf I'm spending £200 on a pair of shoes I want to like them!
No old stock of your current available online?
Dunlop greenflash disco slippers? I'm out.
They look nice now but when you've finished buggering about with them they'll look crap. Get something else
[quote=njee20 said]If I'm spending £200 on a pair of shoes I want [s]to like them[/s] ones which are actually for mountain biking.
Well... no, because I said that I'd not be doing that
What,even if I asked real nice* ? 🙂
[i]* I would pay the entry fee[/i]
njee20 said » If I'm spending £200 on a pair of shoes I want [s]to like them [/s]ones which are actually for mountain biking.
Yes, ie riding my bike, not walking with it.
They look nice now but when you've finished buggering about with them they'll look crap. Get something else
Mmm, that was my thought too!
No old stock of your current available online?
I can get stuff discounted through the LBS, seems daft to pay more for an older product, even if I could track them down.
Buy them!
Bontrager RXXXXXXXXXXXLs are flipping unbelievable. You will get cold feet though.
I've got winter boots, so not really an issue. 90% of use will be in summer conditions, it's the odd wet race and stuff where I want some grip!
njee20 rocking the feet up flat out look for the next 2 years.
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as he dare not put them down EVER
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Gaerne G Kobra?
Gaerne G Kobra?
Ugly. As are those Bontrager ones. Don't seem to be many aesthetically pleasing xc race shoes out there.
If you're intent on running road shoes off-road (with the obvious disadvantage of not being able to grip or walk in them) why not just run road pedals as well and reap the benefits of them.
The specialized shoes are nice but I wouldn't pay £260 for a nice show then make it ugly by sticking bits to the sole. Plus you'll skite about all over the pedal.
wishes my bike had green highlights
Apart from ruining cleats by walking on them, and floundering on the odd occasion when you do need to push/walk, everyone you meet will say 'wait, are those road shoes?' which would annoy me no end eventually.
If you're intent on running road shoes off-road (with the obvious disadvantage of not being able to grip or walk in them) why not just run road pedals as well and reap the benefits of them.
Because if you read more than the first 5 words I don't want to run road shoes off road, I like those shoes specifically and I'm wondering about adapting them with tread so I can use them more effectively off road. For 95% of the time road pedals would be fine, but for those 5% they'd be utterly utterly useless, just not a goer!
Ugly. As are those Bontrager ones. Don't seem to be many aesthetically pleasing xc race shoes out there.
The Gaerne ones aren't bad, not sure I can get them through the LBS though, certainly not at the same margin as Spesh, but I agree - the MTB Spesh ones manage to look very clumpy, despite being the same shoe as the Cvndsh ones, with some rubber on the sole.
The specialized shoes are nice but I wouldn't pay £260 for a nice show then make it ugly by sticking bits to the sole. Plus you'll skite about all over the pedal.
Wouldn't pay £260 for them (or anything like that), but that's my general concern. I'm wondering how neat a full set of SIDI SRS tread would be though... I may get some cheap Spesh road shoes to try!
These should do the trick thenI'm not really going to be walking on them per se
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With those I could probably take my brakes off and save some weight. Hmmm....
I have screwed old tyre to road shoes with great effect.
Obviously i changed the tyre according to the conditions.
I don't know, but I sure want to see the finished result if you go for it!
Then buy some and do the same myself!
nasty looking shoes, but there's no accounting for taste, the adapters would work fine, but the stack height would worry me, more than owt else.
Mmm, that's what I thought. I wondered about drilling the soles, but that really does scare me! Doubt the sole thickness is much as well.
If nothing else I'm thinking that my road shoes are getting a bit tired, so if it's a massive failure I just have some new road shoes!
Because if you read more than the first 5 words I don't want to run road shoes off road, I like those shoes specifically and I'm wondering about adapting them with tread so I can use them more effectively off road. For 95% of the time road pedals would be fine, but for those 5% they'd be utterly utterly useless, just not a goer!
I read all your jibba jabba. They'll still be road shoes, no matter how much you modify them. Do you mean you don't want to run road pedals off-road?
so if it's a massive failure I just have some new road shoes!
If it's a massive failure you'll have a trashed pair of new road shoes 🙂
Do you mean you don't want to run road pedals off-road?
Yep, nor do I want to run road shoes off road, I want to run [i]those [/i]shoes off road!
If it's a massive failure you'll have a trashed pair of new road shoes
For this reason I'd not want to do anything irreversible, a bit of Araldite will come off!
[quote=njee20 said] I want to run those shoes off road!
The road ones which aren't road shoes ? 🙂
[i]nor do I want to run road shoes off road[/i]
Yes you do, adapted ones maybe but they're still road shoes.
Taken out of context - note the italics. If those shoes had a mountain bike sole I'd buy them, they don't, but I'm underwhelmed by all the mountain bike shoes, so wondering if there's a viable way to make them work.
If not, I'm not going to look at other road shoes, that would be daft!
These don't appeal because they're road shoes, I just like them specifically. That they're road shoes is an inconvenience.
Specialized sell replacement tread for their top end S works Mtb shoes. Get the drill out and fit some....dont forget to take them off before you start drilling
http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/specialized_replacement_sworks_mtb_shoe_lugs-ID_54404
mere semantics, they're still road shoes 🙂
I want to run those shoes off road!
I thought you were not going to be running in them ?
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Mr B
Don't seem to be many aesthetically pleasing xc race shoes out there.
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Specialized sell replacement tread for their top end S works Mtb shoes. Get the drill out and fit some....dont forget to take them off before you start drilling
Interesting... that appears to be the exact tread on my S-Works MTB shoes I've got infront of me now, other than the toe piece I can't see how the hell you'd remove it though!
I thought you were not going to be running in them ?
Eh? I'm not doing cross races in them, they've got to cope with a bit of mud, that I may encounter in an XC race. We're going in circles here.
And those Shimanos look cheap and shit IMO.
We're going in circles here.
Well get some practise,you could be spinning a lot 😀
Not that nice, but Shimano do seem to be the best of a pretty ugly bunch at the moment.
Eh? I'm not doing cross races in them, they've got to cope with a bit of mud, that I may encounter in an XC race. We're going in circles here.
I think you just need to buy them and accept that if you need to unclip then your race is over 🙂
Well get some practise,you could be spinning a lot
Spinning would be fine, I'm not aware that tread on shoes helps while you're pedalling 🙄
Not that nice, but Shimano do seem to be the best of a pretty ugly bunch at the moment.
The XC90 has really weird tread - using random studs rather than tread blocks, plus I'm not keen on the lack of midsole tread, I know folk who've found them very slippery.
[i]And those Shimanos look cheap and shit IMO. [/i]
Its the red that does it, if they were just black and white they'd be nice.
But they'll all look shit after a couple of races anyway.
And those Shimanos look cheap and shit IMO.
Damn,they are my road shoes that I don't do any running in.
I is all upset now 🙁 😉
Its the red that does it, if they were just black and white they'd be nice.But they'll all look shit after a couple of races anyway.
Yeah you might be right about the red. As said, my white S-Works ones still look good after 3 years, the stitching is dirty, but that's it.
Will be keen to see if you can do it though, if you can then I'd be tempted to give it a go with a pair of the white Giro Empires 🙂
I see the MTB tread screws through the sole from under the insole, except for the toe tread which attaches from the outside.
So basically the question is... would Araldite hold that tread in place for any length of time on a smooth sole, or not? I don't see why it would have to look crap if you did it neatly, but that's perhaps a halcyon vision. Red tread not ideal either.
Just glue some sand paper or skate board grip on the midsole. I guess even a bit of road bar take might work.
Here is an idea, buy any gopping shoes but ones that a really stiff and fit, then just stick overshoes on, job done 😆
Skate board grip tape's not a bad idea!
Glue holding stuff together on the sole of a [s]road[/s] MTB shoe ? 😆
sorry what? you're buying road shoes for skateboarding in?
Glue holding stuff together on the sole of a [s]road [/s]MTB shoe ? 😆
What do you think keeps your shoes together as is? Fairy dust and unicorn tears? 🙄
Why-no point;
The point is that I like those shoes, I don't like any MTB shoes I've seen as yet, and don't want to spend lots of money on a product I don't like the look of.
I feel I've been quite clear on this point.
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What do you think keeps your shoes together as is? Fairy dust and unicorn tears?
Moulding, metal fixtures, that kind of stuff. Not just things glued onto the sole.
Anyway, go for it 🙂
You are being very clear, but I'd recommend some s-works mtb shoes I have dome nice white ones. Function always wins once they have been battered a bit. I suspect the road shoes wouldn't be as robust?
What sort of stress is the tread actually under when you're riding anyway? I imagine the most likely outcome would be ripping something off during a dab, but not sure how likely that really is.
I suspect I'm not a good enough rider to a avoid damaging the upper; foot down, walking!! etc.
Well the upper is identical to the MTB version, which I've never damaged, so that's a non issue.
Again, not planning to walk in them, they're for riding.
njee20 go on stick to your guns. I'd sand the areas down on the sole a bit first to give the glue something to key into. My only worry for you is the width of the adapter you are going to use, might require cutting your propsed tread up a bit to get it to fit around. Don't bother with studs in the front, they are pain anyway as they tend to cantilever the shoe off your heal when running IME.
I think you are right about forces that the sole is under, as most of the time a dab will be straight down, no really forces on the glue much there. I've held together some Loake leather Oxfords for the past year with super glue, so gluing shoes can work.
For the £10 for the S-Works tread I may try and get hold of some and play around! They'd be damn light!
Agree I'm not sure about the adapters, they look quite clunky, and I wonder if they'd leave the cleats sitting proud of the tread anyway.
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Laces are a no from me, they just fill with mud and go brittle. Bit too much like bowling shoes too!
Blimey Sam, I like that a lot! Real shoe?
Quick google confirms that it can be purchased 🙂 If I rode more mtb I would be sorely tempted.
I do like the colour of those, but it would just clash with my kit and bike!
I've got some Empires, damn they're comfy 8)
Tried Lake neej ? They do some proper CX Orange shoes (but can't think of the model name) they may do them in different colours too...
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If you want to pose, why not get roadie? Road riding is much more about the look.
Was going to suggest the Empires, will just drool instead. Bloody lovely!
Just a thought, do Five10 still to re-soling? Doubt it'd work as like you've suggested you just want to screw big blocks on really but...hmmm...
Agreed, there's a lot of ****ing ugly XC shoes.
I'm going to look at some S-Works road shoes at the LBS tomorrow - I think the profile of the sole could be an issue, the MTB ones certainly aren't flat, plus my older S-Works road ones have some moulded toe tread which would be no use at all off road, but would make it much harder to attach anything else!
Interesting to know about Five10, didn't know they did anything like that. As you say, prob overkill in this instance.
Jared used road shoes here,
http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/article/pro-bike-jared-graves-29er-xc-race-bike-39587/
doesn't mention how they were converted,
i really feel your pain, ive been after some high end xc shoes, but all the current season colours are crap
I wish I could find the pictures of someone (another pro XC racer) who'd done it years ago, the brake pad tread was really neat! Presumably Graves had done some mods, or you'd just use road pedals.
The US still have white S-Works MTB shoes, dunno why we have to have the dark ones.
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Nope, was more minimalist than that - literally just used road cartridge pads either side of the cleat.
Ok I admit I wrong; I hope it can be done!
Well given you're adamant that you're not going to walk at all and presumably always be clipped in, you could fit road pedals to your MTB.
Or buy a road bike.
Just get some shoes that are designed for the job! and get out and ride you big poser 😉
Well given you're adamant that you're not going to walk at all and presumably always be clipped in, you could fit road pedals to your MTB.
Or buy a road bike.
I have a road bike, two in fact.
Road pedals are harder to clip into at the start of a race, plus I'm trying to avoid a huge compromise of functionality. I doubt I've walked half a mile in four years with my current shoes, not sure why that's so hard to comprehend. Realistically I'd keep these for racing only anyway.
If I'm spending £200 on a pair of shoes I want to like them!
You obviously have no taste, as they look shit. The only reason you should be wearing crap like that, is if you're a sponsored pro and/or are getting them for free.
Why not go for speedplay pedals?
Instead of sticking rubber bits on the bottom of your shoes why not get some material similar to the deck of a skateboard and stick that on?
I think your options are simple:
1). Source new pair of current shoes as NOS
2). Spend shitload of money on road shoes and possibly be successful in converting them or possibly ruin them
3). Buy some MTB shoes that you know will work - you know function over form
By the way white shoes never look good on or off the bike. Have you never seen National Lampoons Vacation...?
I realy don't know why you would ignore the S-Works mtb shoes:
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Not my cup of tea, but they don't look too bad. People won't think you're such a tit for wearing them. 😆
I think they look horrible, just don't like the black.
Instead of sticking rubber bits on the bottom of your shoes why not get some material similar to the deck of a skateboard and stick that on?
That'll stop slipping, but won't actually provide any traction.
By the way white shoes never look good on or off the bike. Have you never seen National Lampoons Vacation...?
Personal innit, I think white shoes look better, black look rather more like orthopaedic shoes than I care for.
Spend shitload of money on road shoes and possibly be successful in converting them or possibly ruin them
How will I ruin them? Not proposing to do anything irreversible, if it doesn't work, I have some new road shoes...