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I've read/heard that too and it makes sense to me.
Genuinely interested where you read that? 😯
Bike Radar had this to say in their review of the 2008 R3 (which mine is):
"The squared-off Squoval main tubes and chainstays are basically so stiff that the seatstays don’t need to add any vertical strength, just torsional stiffness"
I've read (and heard) the same elsewhere. Stands to reason, I mean, look how skinny they are, they're obviously not taking a massive amount of vertical loading!
I guess if you consider (simplistically) the rear triangle in isolation, the chain stays are necessarily stiffer than the seat stays to react pedaling/chain loads and therefore have a considerable stiffness against vertical bending as well. If you are prepared to keep on beefing up the chain stays then the seat says can be thinned out, giving the effect of some decoupling of the riders ar$e from the rear wheel. So yes, fair enough.
EDIT: Too slow 😉
A while back I did some FE analysis for someone-who-shall-remain-nameless on a new type of pivotless 'full-suspension' frame design. It was interesting [s]a complete nightmare[/s] trying to balance the vertical stiffness/lateral stiffness/fatigue life/weld strength. Didn't go anywhere as the final form looked a bit odd! 😉
Am I right in thinking Beloki's crash was due to melting glue on a tub?
And the melting tarmac.....
A while back I did some FE analysis for someone-who-shall-remain-nameless on a new type of pivotless 'full-suspension' frame design. It was interesting a complete nightmare trying to balance the vertical stiffness/lateral stiffness/fatigue life/weld strength. Didn't go anywhere as the final form looked a bit odd!
Odder than this? 🙂
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Hell yeah - odder-squared!! 😆
i'm not going to click on that beloti video, makes me feel sick every time i see it.
Nice frame, verrrry nice wheelz Guv. If the repair was done by a pukka Company, presumably they'll warrant it? If so, gerrit painted and cut the naysayers off in their first breath.
Who gives a flying f...errr fig if this is too much/too little/not tubs/wired on (excuse me 'clincher' is dammed 'merican not British you see). The only reason you're getting this sort of feedback is it's a roadbike. These silly comments don't seem to follow a pic of a Mojo SL tricked up to the eyeballs does it?
I'd like them Cosmics if your feeling the heat of public humiliation 🙂
those who dis are just jealous! lovely looking bike and am sure you will have a lot of fun with it.
Can't resist wading into the wheel debate here. Tubs vs clinchers is a debate with no end (SRAM vs Shimano vs Campag anybody?). For the real world, you just can't beat a clincher. I have run tubs and clinchers on many bikes, using many rims. Anybody who can tell the difference between the 2 nowadays is kidding themselves.
Pros use tubs because:
1) They have support to hand them spare wheels if they puncture
2) You can ride them stone flat, which maters in a race
3) The rims are marginally lighter
At full inflation, you just can't tell the difference these days. BTW, Liquigas have been using these exact wheels to great effect.
Nice build mate. Looking good.