[Closed] Maintenance cost of 1x

GX cassette will survive the impending cold war.

I broke a mech yesterday, £57 🙁

GX cassette

Lolz, £150!

How long does that last?

I have xtr cassettes on four bikes. They last really well - I average 1,000 miles a month.
I don’t think there would be any difference to 3x in the same conditions.

I get 3500km of all year round type riding from an xt cassette. Two chains in that distance.

Probs my a chainring every two cassettes.

Lolz? I've never paid more than about 75 quid for one. Its steel, riveted and yet 30g lighter than XT.

My GX cassettes have been about £80. The last one was worn but still working fine after 18 months.

I only replaced it because I changed frames and needed a longer chain. It was still working fine and I was planning to ride the chain / cassette until they were properly shagged.

Cassettes should / possibly last longer - more gears, spread the wear load over more cogs.

Chains wear a bit quicker I’d say, chainlines are ****ing criminal at times.

Chainrings, especially narrow/wide appear to be made of cheese.

Sunrace cassette 11sp is £45-60.
Mechs seem expensive at £50+
Chains cost the same.
Front rings £20-30.

I will let you know how it goes, being a 1x11 newbie.
1x10, eldest_oab has run it for 2 years now, same durability as any other Deore kit.

I've never paid more than about 75 quid for one

Where do you get them from? Is there only one model of GX?

I don't break mechs so not worried about that. Chains seem affordable, so it's mostly cassettes I am concerned about.

Also considering if I can go 1x10 instead.

2500km on a cassette and chain, not bad if you ask me

Depending on mileage the £ difference will probably not be very significant, less significant than the upside compared to 1x10 IME.

1xwhat? 1? 8? 9? 10? 11? 12?

I find 11 speed chains probably not as durable as 8/9/10 speed ones (maybe partly due to chainline issues with 1x), think my last chain did just over 1500 Strava miles before it needed replacing.

1x chainrings seem to wear faster, as expected really, alloy chainring getting all the use & abuse.

Cassettes I have to say, seem to last just as well as any other (I've been using Shimano 105 + SLX cassettes).

I guess on the whole it works out marginally mire expensive to maintain, but prices are coming down all the time as newer expensive kit comes out.

I want to know how it compares to 3x9.. how many kms did you get from your 3x9 setups?

Which Sram are the light steel ones? I would go for steel if it wasn't heavy. That would be a lot more durable than what I use now.

It's very cheap with 1x10 - XT cassettes cost almost nothing and narrow-wide Works rings and KMC X10 chains last ages. Just have to stand up on the steep bits and spin quicker on the fast bits. 😉

Yeah, 1x10 worked well for me, cost wise it's pretty good.

Most cassettes are steel, sometimes you get the bigger sprockets in alloy.

Over 4000km on gx, new bike means it's on the spares pile now but will do another 1000.easy.

The XT cassette with extender ring is probably as cheap as you can do it. A TRex extender lasted me three cassettes! The rear mech will last the same as with any other setup, mine lasted 8000Km.

The chainring will wear most as you aren't spreading the wear and tear between two or three rings. The RaceFace one lasted between 2500 & 3000Km, the AB oval ones have been a little longer lasting, maybe 4000Km.

Which gx cassette? They are all £100 on CRC unless I am looking at the wrong thing?

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What is meant by the ‘GX’ cassette is the XG-1150. This is full steel, full pin and marginally lighter than an 11-42 XT cassette ;forget the actual weight). As it’s fully steel (even 42) you can expect it to last better than any Shimano 11spd MTB cassette. The higher models are progressively lighter and much more expensive but less durable/more sensitive to chain maintenance.

It’s currently available for about £77 at Evans straight out of Google. CRC price has wandered a bit high since 1x12 GX launch, I assume that’s because these aren’t as plentiful in OEM land anymore. I got my last from Winstanley for £75, full retail box. IIRC, RRP is about £100 but it’s almost never sold for that.

~£20...

For another 8-speed cassette and chain. 😀

But last night, I took my On One 1x chainring off and went back to 2x, at least for a while I want more low and high gears for hill training over the winter.

1*10 using a Sunrace cassette. The cassette is wearing well and I've not noticed the drivetrain wear any quicker since leaving 2*9.

n0b0dy0ftheg0at - Member
~£20...

For another 8-speed cassette and chain

I'm not getting the 'cost' at all. I ride as much as the next man, i'm on 6000km this year indoors and outdoors and haven't replaced a single item on any of the bikes. At all ! Well, apart from a creaky dropper, but that's unrelated.

Gear wise i've got generic SRAM X7 running 1x10 and Shimano XT i think running 1x10.... both running Raceface Ride XC cranks with N/W and they just keep on going, no slipped/missed gears etc ever.... ever ever.

Depends on whether it's shiny newer 1x12/1x11 or 1x10 IMO.

10 speed ain't dead and with either an expander or a Sunrace cassette you can have about 90% of the range 1x11 offers...

Coming back to the OPs original question, comparing 1x10 to 3x9? Cassette is probably about the same, a N/W chainring is less than a set of 3, chains cost pretty much the same, but frequency of replacement is probably higher for all of those parts depending on use and maintenance...

a N/W chainring is less than a set of 3,

I bought two XTR chain sets in 2007 cos they were on offer when I was building bikes. I have bought two or three inner rings on each since then but the middle and outer are still fine. So chainring purchase seems not to be an issue.

Cassette is probably about the same

I seem to pay £30 for cassettes rather than £75

Been running 1x9 for a while and now 1x10 with 11-40 Sunrace cassette, latest non clutch SLX medium cage mech for simplicity, I spec saint shifter. Gives a really nice solid precise mechanical feeling gear change which I prefer to previous 'smoother' XT/XTR combos.

What I have noticed is the N/W from Superstar only lasted 500 miles each, so switched to Hope for now which seem to have dropped to the same price.

I seem to pay £30 for cassettes rather than £75

I seem to pay £30 for cassettes rather than £75

Well stick with what suits you then, instead of polluting this place with yet [i]another[/i] 1x v 3x dungfest.

My two bikes with 1x10 set ups are lasting much better than the 2x10 and 3x10 they replaced.

I'm amazed by the hope ring / sunrace cassette combo on my hardtail. It just shouldn't still be working but it is! It went on in May 2016 and is still going, despite doing a hard winter and getting ridden every week.

When I had 2x10 on that bike it was chain suck and dodgy front shifting that meant I needed to swap out drivechain parts. That isn't an issue any more so I guess it's much more tolerant to worn parts than the old set up.

I can only speak for SRAM 11 speed stuff.Mine has lasted very well,the cassettes in particular seem to go on and on and tolerate many timely chain changes.Thinking about it,in 4 years worth of riding(usually 3 rides a week) with it running on 2 bikes that came with it I've only had to buy one replacement cassette (GX usually £75/80ish but luckily paid only £25 for very slightly worn one).
I bought 5 SRAM steel NW chainrings for the winter bike when they were on sale for only £1.70 a pop too-so these will probably out last me and seem very good.
I guess main expense for me which I'd have on any 1x setup are chains at £16 each and ally NW chainrings for the summer bike that can't run the steel ones so for me it's been great value.

but luckily paid only £25 for very slightly worn one

This is always an option too btw, as there's always some idiot selling SRAM kit off his/hers new bike cos they iz all shimano, innit?. 😆

I've just put a Sunrace 11-46 casette on with new chain and 32t superstar front n/w ring.

I know some people report getting multiple chains to a casette and getting more miles out of it, but what's the accepted logic here? Casette about £50 - £60, decent chain what £15 - £25? A couple of chain swaps and you're into new casette money anway. Better off swapping chains at a set wear point, or just running the lot into the ground?

vincienup - Member
What is meant by the ‘GX’ cassette is the XG-1150. This is full steel, full pin and marginally lighter than an 11-42 XT cassette ;forget the actual weight). As it’s fully steel (even 42) you can expect it to last better than any Shimano 11spd MTB cassette. The higher models are progressively lighter and much more expensive but less durable/more sensitive to chain maintenance.

It’s currently available for about £77 at Evans straight out of Google. CRC price has wandered a bit high since 1x12 GX launch

CRC pricing is a bit "yield management" indeed ATM. I paid £67.50 after discount in August for an XG-1150 and now it's over £90 after discount. 35% increase, what's that about ?

Still far better a solution than a £30 10-speed cassette though !!!!

Well stick with what suits you then, instead of polluting this place with yet another 1x v 3x dungfest.

Well I've no appetite for a dungfest, I hate those. I think I want to go 1x on that bike, just wondering what the down-sides are That comment was referring to cookeaa's comment that the cassettes were the same price.

Are the people talking about 4000km of riding on a cassette just running everything into the ground or changing chains?

3 chains for that on mine, it's going on the next thing I build too.

That comment was referring to cookeaa's comment that the cassettes were the same price.

Sorry, monday morning crabbitness kicking in!

I tend to go with the 3 chains to a cassette too, I know lots of folks poopoo chain checkers, but 0.75% wear on mine generally equates to 3 chains a cassette, works for me.

Are the people talking about 4000km of riding on a cassette just running everything into the ground or changing chains?

A bit of a mixture: I'll keep an eye on the chain and if it looks worn will replace it (but not the cassette), if I then get skipping gears I'll replace the cassette. Chainring gets replaced if it looks worn or I start getting chain suck.

I'll probably use two chains per cassette, three if I'm really, really lucky. The extender ring will last three cassettes as I don't use it that often, it's really a bail-out gear.

Are the people talking about 4000km of riding on a cassette just running everything into the ground or changing chains?

I've got a decent chunk of 4000km on my PArkwood, standard chain, cassette, etc... I don't use a chain checker, i don't use chainlube either actually. Just clean and GT85 after every ride.

2 years and 6 months (4,000km) on my X1 11sp

In that time I bought 3 £11 KMC chains. Nothing else.
It needs jockey wheels.

I thought it needed a new cassette.
I bought a spare from Tiawan XG-1195 on ebay for £79
But then I realised it was a bent mech hanger instead.

I've just replaced it all with GX Eagle. Hope it lasts as well!

From these reports then it does seem to suggest the sprockets would last longer.

If we put most of our pedalling effort into lower gears, with a 1x setup one would spend much more time in the bigger sprockets than you would with 3x, which could mean less wear as they are much larger.

Interesting stuff.

The issue is probably the 9 speed stuff, it will tail off in availability (or at least decent cassettes will) over time.

been running XO1 for 3 years 5 months. All year riding in the peak mostly.

Still on the original cassette, but have just fitted a second new 42T sprocket - seem to get about 18-20 months out of them.

Chains changed at 0.75%, reckon maybe 4 a year?

Ring changed when it starts dropping the chain. Just put the 4th one on (so about a year each)

The system likes clean cables far more than my old XO 2x9 setup, so I reckon new ones maybe twice a year.

Jockey wheels maybe once a year. The rear mech is beaten to crap but still shifts passably.

I used to just run my old 2x9 setups into the ground. I'd expect a year out of chain/cass./rings. Feels like 1x11 is slightly more expensive to run, but more of a constant minor dribble of cash rather than annual big lumps, it's 500g lighter and within spitting distance of the same range. On the whole I'm happy.