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Has any inventor or developer or manufacturer ever tried using magnetic force as a replacement for a bikes drivetrain? Would such a thing be possible?

I know nothing about physics, but I was playing with a couple of magnets, and the forces they exert seem pretty significant.

So then I watched this video, and I got to thinking...


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 12:13 pm
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Can't see the attraction myself.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 12:14 pm
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Riding past cars / street signs / anything magnetic could be 'interesting'...


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 12:17 pm
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Has any inventor or developer or manufacturer ever tried using magnetic force as a replacement for a bikes drivetrain?

That's essentially what electric motors do.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 12:28 pm
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Can any physicists be coaxed into commenting? Mad scientists? Inventors?


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 3:57 pm
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I think someone makes a free hub which uses opposing magnets, instead of springs, to engage it.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 4:37 pm
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I suppose in theory you could use a dynamo at the cranks to power a motor on the wheel? I can't imagine it being very effective in practice.

Not sure how you'd transfer power from pedals to wheel entirely with magnets?


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 4:42 pm
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Not sure how you'd transfer power from pedals to wheel entirely with magnets?

Easy:

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Posted : 16/03/2017 4:47 pm
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OP - when you say 'bike' and 'drivetrain' what do you mean here?

To me that means either

1. bicycle and chains/cranks etc - or
2. two-wheeled self-propelled vehicle and motor/gears gubbins.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 5:10 pm
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You could run a generator and wire it to a motor, but it would be fairly inefficient, possibly quite heavy, and I would imagine a bit weird to ride.

I'd be interested in magnetised freewheel pawls, who makes them?


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 5:17 pm
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OP - when you say 'bike' and 'drivetrain' what do you mean here?

I was originally wondering about replacing a crankset and chain with magnets. So, for example, would spinning a cylindrical magnet act upon a magnetised wheel?

[That may sound ridiculous; I have no idea!]

But I guess now I'm also just curious as to the power of magnets and their potential to power a two-wheeled vehicle in any way at all.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 5:20 pm
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So, for example, would spinning a cylindrical magnet act upon a magnetised wheel?
how do you spin the cylindrical magnet? Perhaps you could link it to pedals with a chain? ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 5:32 pm
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You could arrange lots of triangular magnets around the perimeter of a circle attached to the cranks...


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 5:41 pm
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Unfortunately no one really knows how magnets work, so it will remain a mystery.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 5:42 pm
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You mean like these magnetic gearboxes ->
http://www.magnomatics.com/pages/technology/innovation.htm


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 6:06 pm
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The thing is though that chain drive is hugely efficient ... something like 95% ... way higher than magnet motors.

What I had wondered about is whether you could create induction braking to scrub speed without friction.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 6:10 pm
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Absolute black do some kind magnetic freehub and spank and DT Swiss were supposedly looking into them.


 
Posted : 16/03/2017 7:18 pm