Mine were with customs for around two weeks for some reason, i know some people have had them much sooner though.
Yeah, mine sat for a week this time, first one went through in a day I think. It's quite frustrating, you end up pretty cut off from the process but they did come
(and now, after complaining about the wait, they're sitting in the garage waiting for me to sort out the hubs!)
Suppose I'll just have to be a bit more patient then...
Do light bike do the deeper 29er rim ?....Wanting similar to ENVE's depth of 31 and 30 wide.
Ive checked their site and can only find the 27 outer with a 24mm depth hookless - Is that the deepest rim they do?
As far as I'm aware they only offer the 27mm, which are 24mm deep, and the 35mm like mine which are 25mm deep.
Just picked mine up from the Lbs. They were supposed to have been built with supercomps but the builder told me they had been built with comps. Then turned out they were actually built with Sapim dbs, identical spec to comps apparently. Price was supposed to be 340 with supercomps, they have offered to rebuild them or I can have them as is for 310. What to do? Slightly annoyed Tbh but no one died so hey ho. Any opinions on whether the difference whilst riding will be noticeable?
Weight is 1785g btw, 955 rear and 830 front
Several varieties of Sapim double butted spokes. If they are D-Lights, then I would stick with those as they are similar to supercomps.
Race, Force or Strong are all below that level and the weight will increase quite a bit.
Pretty sure they said Sapim Race DBs, same spec as DT comps?
According to the claimed weights a Race is a little lighter than a Comp for equivalent spec (there's a lighter weight Comp as well, weirdly- a 2.0 and a 1.8)
Got any more claimed weights at your fingertips northwind? Any idea how much weight I could expect to save per 32h 29er wheel going from Sapim Race to supercomps? Feel free to tell me to do one!
Sure, let me google that for you 😉 I've only got 26 inch weights here though because I am obsolete.
If you'd be so kind, my butler is busy smoking the kippers ready for brekkers!
I ****in hate it when bike shops pull this crap.
It's not what you asked for. Make em do it again. One of the reasons I do my own spannering in these days.
Had an update from lb, mine are being shipped this week.
My LBS built my 35mm 29er rims last week but I forgot to ask them to weigh them before fitting the tyres and discs off my old wheels. Doh! 32H, Pro2 Evo hubs and Super Comp spokes with alloy nipples. I would be happy with sub 1700g, as I was after a robust and stiff build rather than light.
As far as I can tell the difference between alloy and brass nipples is 40-50g and Comps and Supercomps 50-60 for the pair so as mine came in just under 1800g I would think a bit under 1700 would be right for yours. Think I'm going to have the LBS rebuild mine with Supercomps
Aye davo, my optimistic fag packet calculations came in at around 1650g if the rims were at the lower end of the LB quoted weight range, but they are probably closer to 1700. Not much more than a 100g saving over my alu Havens, but they are a hell of a lot stiffer, and 1700g is still a pretty decent weight for a burly 35mm 32h 29er wheelset considering Hope’s new 29er Enduro wheels (and Pro2 Flows) are the best part of 2kg. Since building the wheels I’ve only ridden them at Glentress and Inners, but I’ll be heading up my local hill on Sunday morning where they will be treated to a right good thrashing on fast rock steps, drainage bars, and the longest rock garden in the area where many a rim has been dented and bent. I’m really looking forward to seeing how the LB rims fair over the coming months.
I’d probably ask for a rebuild to the requested specification if I was in the same position as you, but good luck with the wheels whatever you decide to do.
arse my rims stuck in customs since the 2nd, still not letter, 3days to come from china, 6 days stuck in coventry
Cheers Yetiman. How do yours feel, roll well?
Unlucky Kimbers, won't get mine rebuilt until next week, maybe we'll both have them in time for the QECP enduro.
Had an email from Katrin saying my 35mm's will be shipped this week. I'm not expecting them anytime soon though - it sounds like Coventry customs are up to their necks in Light Bicycle rims atm 😀
I'm ordering a 35mm wide carbon rim to go on a Dt240 hub, any reason not to use Sapim Cx ray spokes?
Owner of the LBS has just phoned before I had a chance to call them, he said they want to rebuild the wheels as they're not what I specced and it will just niggle at me otherwise (he's right about that!) Also said it's fine to ride them as is until the Supercomps come in so can't say fairer than that, A* for customer service for Quest Adventure in Worthing
That's very cool Daveosaurus (ps, think they may read STW?)
Seems like the main reason not to go cx-rays, is lasers- same spoke without the aero forging, which I'm not convinced adds anything.
Fair chance I'd have said - get some work done you slackers!
Just paid £27.25 VAT and handling charges to the Post Office so should be getting my 35mm hookless 29" any day now.
I'm not obsessing about the lightest spokes. I've done that in the past and it usually costs in less reliability. So no skinny spokes and brass nipples on the back wheel.
Any feedback or problems with hookless burping air?
I've got the 35mm hookless 29er am rims, and they came in at 420g each. They're built up by Cycleworks leatherhead onto hope hubs.
Well, I spent 4 days in sospel kicking the shit out of them on some stupid rocky trails and they're fine. Odd scratch and knick in the lacquer, but that's it. Super stiff, made a real difference ploughing rock gardens.
After waiting for a repeat order of the correct length super comps to arrive from Germany, I'll have my grubby mitts on my pro2 35mm supercomp with brass nipples next week. I'll post up the weights when I get them.
I'm not expecting a large weight saving over the excellent maxlight 29er wheels I'm currently using, maybe 150g at best, but stiffness and strength will be much greater, and the tyre profile should be stupendously good.
Yippee, rims arrived today.
will build them up with Hope hubs.
stop taunting me - 7 days in fracking coventry customs, still no invoice
theyve now got my shock from avalanche too, wonder when ill see that!
Mounted the front tyre on mine earlier, tubed for now, will give tubeless another go once they've been rebuilt. Bloody tight getting a Hans Dampf on which is a good thing in my eyes given the lack of bead and shallow sidewall. Difference in width isn't as pronounced as I'd expected, volume wise hard to see with the bike in the garage. Will sort the rear tomorrow and post some pictures up.
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And here they are!
Niiiiiiiice. When is the first ride?
My 2.4 Mountain Kings were quite a tight fit too which bodes well for security at lower pressures.
I'm ordering a 35mm wide carbon rim to go on a Dt240 hub, any reason not to use Sapim Cx ray spokes?
Nope, but over rated IME, having used them several times. Higher fatigue strength, so if you want light weight spokes but break Revs then they're ok. If you use alu nips then you just break those instead of the spokes. Same end result.
Niiiiiiiice. When is the first ride?
Hopefully tomorrow morning if the teething baby doesn't play up too much tonight.....
Mini - review on a not particularly testing 17 miles over the South Downs; first impression on the flat is that they give a nicely damped quality, really seem to take some buzz out of the small stuff.
Could be mental purchase justification but I don't think so, would imagine the effect would be more pronounced on rockier trails. First drop was in the trees and too muddy to tell much except that they're lovely and stiff. Second one was open and 35mph+, quite rough in parts. Felt really good down there until the rear went down towards the bottom. Was not impressed to have pinch flatted when I hadn't hit anything too hard but turned out to be a piece of flint that looked like a sharks tooth through the rear tyre. Was glad to have my mate lend an extra pair of hands to get the tyre back on, they are properly tight, no concerns about the tyre blowing off the rim. Had to get the tyre beads into the rim well to get it on. On the final mile home on the road I noticed the back end bobbing slightly. When I got back I checked and found that the tyre had inflated with the bead still in the well around part of the diameter. Deflated, pumped up to 50psi with a track pump to seat the bead and then let some out, something to be aware of. Overall they're only wheels but I really like them and suspect I will like them more as I get more miles on them.
10 days in customs, still no letter 🙁
davosaurus, - tubeless? what (width) tape did you use?
Got a flat in mine last weekend, and on refitting the tyre (TLR Rocket Ron) it was rather baggy, went up eventually, but was a right faff. Which is intriguing, and not ideal.
Hubs off to Steve the Anodiser now so time to actually work out spokes. I was thinking Supercomps but now, kind of drawn towards Sapim Lasers, any thoughts?
I'm not a renowned spokebreaker, I was really put off thinner spokes but I've now realised that's mostly because I'm fed up of tracking down straightpulls! And the rest probably because one of my wheels is more or less fatigued out- I keep thinking I break too many spokes but they're all at the nipple thread. Impact damage is a slight worry but I think other than mechs-in-spokes and the like the strength ought to be alright...
kimbers - tubed. No point in going tubeless until they've been rebuilt with Supercomps. I bought some 29mm tape from superstar for £8 but forgot to offer it up before mounting the tyres.
I went for a massive 60m length x 25mm wide roll of Tesa tape off ebay, web rumoured to be the same as Stans. Certainly appeared so and only about £12 delivered!.
Using Revs on my 35mm x 29" rims and so far so good still, nice and stiff with some favourable damping qualities and a nice footprint to boot.
Be interesting to see how that anodizing goes Northwind, you gonna try a rear and front too?
what length nips are people using? Is 12 long enough? Seems just long enough to me.
I'd always use 12s.
Got a flat in mine last weekend, and on refitting the tyre (TLR Rocket Ron) it was rather baggy, went up eventually, but was a right faff. Which is intriguing, and not ideal.
Am I reading too much into this or are you intimating the wheel's deformed or the tyre's stretched.
12's fine here, though nowt to stop ya using longer if your spokes come up a bit short (i.e. if the ERD is a bit larger then LB state as mine was!)
Am I reading too much into this or are you intimating the wheel's deformed or the tyre's stretched.
Neither, it was just a comment, in part in response to the previous poster who said their tyres were incredibly tight (albeit on the wider rims).
I'd hazard a guess the tyre's stretched a bit, and the tape has 'bedded in' a bit since I first inflated them. Particularly with hookless I'd prefer a tighter bead though, if only for peace of mind! I've got 2 layers of tape on them though, which was essential for inflation even when brand new, so my experience is certainly not that tyres are tight.
5hrs ride on my 29er LB hookless with Novatec hubs yesterday. Excellent. Very pleased. Lots of roadie miles lately and some blingy wheels meant that I was flying along 🙂
What width of tape are people using for these rims?
This will be my first time running tubeless so no idea what to get! Any suggestions on what valves to buy too?
On the 'normal' hookless 29er rims (ie not the 35mm(?) wide ones) I used the Gorilla 1" tape, and some standard DT Swiss valves.
Thanks, I've got the 35mm ones coming though, will 25mm be wide enough for a 30mm internal width?
Superstar do 29mm wide tape for 8 quid delivered
25mm tape from superstar.
Wtb Vigilante are incredibly tight so I only needed one layer and I can inflate with a trail pump.
ive ordered this stuff in 30mm, no idea how compatible it will be!
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/wtb-tcs-rim-tape-11m-roll-2014/rp-prod66624
But they've only got it in 26" so no good for my 29" rims. What? Oh look, a squirrel!
Got my shipping confirmation today!
12 days in coventry customs office, they are apparently sending out my invoice for duty today!
Yay customs invoice arrived today managed to get to the depot and pay my fees and pick up my avalanche mod DHX air at the same time !
Cool. Interested in hearing your thoughts on the DHX shock once you've managed a few rides on it.
Mine just arrived, they couldn't have taken more than 5 days to go to my local post office. No customs charges either. I got the wider 29er rims, ud matte and asked for sub 400g. They were 373 and 376g, 10g less than my Crests they replaced from a pair of Hope Hoops SP wheels. I swapped them over yesterday using the "tape the rims together" method and it seems successful. I might get my local shop to check the tension before I ride as I have no idea what it is.
I'm very impressed so far and would get another (wider) set if funds permitted!
So how long from ordering do these take?
I'm off to the alps in July and wondering if that's enough time?
Personally I would have a nice affordable to smash rim for alps riding... my LB have had a couple of hours at QE and a couple at cwmcarn and already have some nice scars. Only time I've destroyed rims is in the alps.
I'm sure they would be fine, just saying its an expensive mistake if they aren't.
Yeah, I'm planning on taking my old hammered Flows. I figure once I've got about 3 kilos of dualply fitted, the light rims get a bit less noticable 😉
arse mine wont be back from the wheelbuilder till friday and im off to scotland on thursday!
im blaming customs, though the lbs' wheelbuilder did say theyd be ready in time
why is it so painful getting anything bike related?
tricky disco, mine took 3 weeks to ship + 3 days from china then 12 days in customs, its a bit of a lottery!
They also seem to be very good on warranty. I found the bead hook had cracked away from the rest of my rear rim after nearly a year of use and they're sending me another one FOC.
I should really buy black nips to use with black spokes shouldn't I...
Personally I would have a nice affordable to smash rim for alps riding... my LB have had a couple of hours at QE and a couple at cwmcarn and already have some nice scars. Only time I've destroyed rims is in the alps.
you've got a point.
Maybe i'll get those panceti rims/tesla combo off of superstar
For alp riding? Put it this way, I bought one of the XC Pacenti wheelsets from Superstar and the front's proved not durable enough for tarmac commuting and occasional canal paths. (the rear seems good). So spin the circle of random wheelbuild... They do offer free rebuilds to be fair- I've not taken them up on that, don't need the hassle, but you need kit you can really trust on holiday.
When i say alps it's les arc singletrack rather than morzine/ les gets
Although that doesn't sound good northwind. were they the TL28's?
Annoying as heard good reviews
http://www.thelumberjackmtb.co.uk/2014/01/thelumberjack-reviews-pacenti-tl28-rims.html
http://www.bike198.com/review-pacenti-tl28-26er-mountain/
Nah, the.. CLs is it? Nowt wrong with the rims though, they've got a rep for dentiness but I can't speak for that, it's the workmanship.
Les Arcs/area can take its toll on rims too, don't arsk me how I knows, I just knows 😆 (admittedly I think I did the worst damage manualling into a carpark!)
What tyres are people running with the 29 x 35mm hookless?
I'm using butcher and Purgatory 2.3s and the casing is wider than the tread by a few mm.
Got stung for VAT and handling 🙁
£27.50
On the tape front, I used Gorilla tape. Put a nick in tape at 35mm (same as the external width) then pulled that tight into the centre well before running round pushing it into the seat and wall. The tape just rips of the roll at the same width all the way. Then the tape goes up the side wall a little, but it doesn't matter at all as there's no beadhook. Took them to wales last weekend around natural stuff, Brechfa trail park and Cwmcarn. No problems at all with the wheels. They were just the right amount of tightneed and inflated easily with a track pump. Maxxis Ardent & Minion DHF tyres.
Got stung for VAT and handling£27.50
It's hardly getting stung though, is it? By rights they should have charged you import duty on £300 as well!
Yeah I mustn't grumble. It was more the delay that irked.
Finally got them yesterday and am impressed. Now to get the built up!
What tyres are people running with the 29 x 35mm hookless?
I’m running 2.4 Rubber Queens (Trail Kings) on my 29er 35mm hookless rims. I had a look at them this morning while I was out riding, and the sidewall is slightly wider than the tread, but just a smidge though. I guess the narrower the tyre the more pronounced this is going to be on a wide rim.
I'm running 2.35 Hans Dampfs on mine. Incredibly tight to get on and off but I like the security that gives.
Best to buy built from China or as rims only?
I have a Dampf on the front and a Michelin wilder racer/spesh ground control on the rear. Of those, the Michelin was the hardest- I nearly couldn't use my thumbs. The Dampf was fine, as was the ground control they were neither really tight or really slack.
Gorilla tape for my rim tape worked extremely well first time I'd used it.
Mine are still going extremely well, despite doing the last 3k (all descending as well) of the Dyfi enduro with a completely flat rear on a rigid bike. I half expected to see some damage to the rim sidewall, so happy to have gotten away with that one!
Do they make a nice light mid-strength rim?
Most of these seem to be massive rims at a similar weight to alu xc rims