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Keep an eye on ebay, they pop up from time to time for under a grand.
Not sure that conversion is that easy - the rear triangle needs widening on most bikes to fit the tyres. I managed to squeeze a Pugsley wheel into my Swift but getting it to turn was out of the question!
A fresh one for you. Just back from a wee spin up the Pentlands.
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If all the Edinburgh/Lothian fatbikes turn up in April 2013 for "Forth Fat" Gathering here in East Lothian then there will be nearly 20 local fatbikes alone 😆
The fun bit on the coast is all the stuff between the flat smooth stuff and the trails there and back home...
Over 6000 miles now on the pugsley and 5 years old next month 🙂
My new front hub arrived earlier 😀
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Zippykona about halfway down on page 2
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/please-show-me-your-rigid-bikes/page/2
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I've heard that The Yak might show up. That would be a nightmare.
Yak's abrasive atitude and bad language could set fatbiking back 5 years.
Motorman , I do like that Lossie vid being as Im from Elgin originally.
Is the On one fatbike still aiming to be under a grand? , Could see quite a few popping up If so.
Snow is 0.2% of my riding, and beach even less. How do they go on 'normal' uppy-downy twisty-turny riding?
mattjg - Member
Snow is 0.2% of my riding, and beach even less. How do they go on 'normal' uppy-downy twisty-turny riding?
Spotty Dog, in my ( limited) experience...
May not be the [i]most[/i] practical bike for it, but I guarentee you won't find anything more fun to ride..
Fun is good.
Can these bikes go on Thule 591 roof carriers of are they too FAT..?
coastkid - Member
If all the Edinburgh/Lothian fatbikes turn up in April 2013 for "Forth Fat" Gathering here in East Lothian then there will be nearly 20 local fatbikes alone
With this much notice count me in for April 2013 8)
When fitting Mrs Motorman's Winter wheels today, I found one of them had a nail sticking out, so with the garage just down the road & nice afternoon, it would be rude not to 😯
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LH6.GOOGLEUSERCONTENT.COM Mostly fun, but also practical 😆
[quote=mattjg ]Snow is 0.2% of my riding, and beach even less. How do they go on 'normal' uppy-downy twisty-turny riding?
Already covered - many times - in this thread and others.[b] Most[/b] people aren't using them on snow or sand (at least not for any appreciable amount of time). If that's all they were being used for, the Moonlander with its 100mm rims and 5" tyres would be the most common type.
What does the assembled 26er fat bike brethren think of the Surly Krampus semi fat 29er?
I've got a pile of Columbus tubing in the garage and toying with ideas for next year's framebuilds....
It has a place. Zero mud clearance means it will struggle as a useful tool in the UK. The Rabbit Hole rim/Knard tyre combo will no doubt be retrofitted to a few fatbikes though. I believe the Mukluk will take that no problem.
Most people aren't using them on snow or sand (at least not for any appreciable amount of time).
Yeah but [b]most[/b] photos and copy us normal folks see are about them on snow/beaches/mud. That makes sense because it's the fatbike's USP. But it does seem it's painted itself into a corner there, might be hard to break out of. Most of us don't live on the beach and it snows a few days a year.
I'd be interested to see some out on normal trails.
q: how does a '26' fattie handle relative to a 29 'normal', for ordinary trail riding?
Normal??
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FWIW, I've taken mine round Glentress, where it is a hoot. There is so much grip from the wide footprint. I've also had it round Laggan Wolftrax where the rock pavement features were just a pain (think undamped rebound).
The comparison to a 29er is reasonably valid. You have a larger rolling mass which tends to smooth out some trail features without slowing the bike down so much. Grip is, as I have said, better, so loose rubble-covered climbs are much easier. The bike is very sensitive to tyre pressures. You want something like 5-6 psi for sand and mud and that will work well on boulders and tree roots. However, it will make pedalling on the flat a bit harder and you'd want anything up to 12-15psi for that. Typically, you are going to compromise and ride accordingly.
FWIW, I have a 29er on my "buy" list and lots of fatbike riders already have one. For covering distance, something with less rolling resistance will definitely be less hard work.
All IMHO of course.
I did 56 miles / 8 hour ride on my Pugsley on the Cheviots a few years back. If you have ridden up there then you will know the conditions are soft grassy paths with wet holes.
I rode the same route on a Cannondale xc bike 3 weeks later in same dry (for Cheviots) conditions and it near broke me, the Dale weighed 22 LBS, the pugsley near 38 lbs... weight did not matter, the effort to ride over/through peat and stone flagstones was a lot easier with the big low pressure tyres...
Here is the film, yep i made it from Jedburgh up Dere Street across to Cocklawfoot and up onto Cheviot on a heavy beast designed for snow and sand and it ate the miles up 🙂
Again here on the Applecross Penulsia a 32 mile days ride on the pug...
After watching this we need to do a fatbike ride up Cheviot and go visit the WW2 B17 wreck on Brendon cragg, not been there since early 90s 🙂
Im considering a fat bike for a bit of fun/winter riding.
Just wondering how much some of the alu builds are coming in at?
Nice views on your first vid, coastkid. I may end up stranded in Newcastle at Xmas so will nip up there if I can.
38lbs... a bit heavy to lift over styles then? 😉
These look like an absolute blast! We just need a place we can get hold of bits and bobs easily in the UK and I'm sure it will take off! (Metaphorically)
These look like an absolute blast! We just need a place we can get hold of bits and bobs easily in the UK and I'm sure it will take off! (Metaphorically)
That place already exisits...
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bazza17 - Member
Can these bikes go on Thule 591 roof carriers of are they too FAT..?
Work fine, you just need to use bungees on the wheels as the normal straps aren't big enough:
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My Nate's just arrived. They're HUUUUUGGGGEEE!!!! 😀
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Cheers CTBM!
Coastkid, loved the Cheviot video. Made me very homesick indeed. I think one of these bikes would make year round Cheviot rides far more practical. Not that I have ever ridden one I just imagine the times I have had the front front wheel sinking in bogs.
Swavis - Is your work just an extension of the bike shed? 🙂
Fattys are easy to transport on the roof, I use an old rear wheel for mounting onto any rack. Simples.
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LH6.GOOGLEUSERCONTENT.COM motorman - Member
Swavis - Is your work just an extension of the bike shed?
What makes you say that? 😉
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Luckily I have an understanding boss.
uphillcursing - Member
Coastkid, loved the Cheviot video. Made me very homesick indeed. I think one of these bikes would make year round Cheviot rides far more practical. Not that I have ever ridden one I just imagine the times I have had the front front wheel sinking in bogs.
As first few seconds here shows sometimes even a fat bike won`t help you on the Cheviots 
I had my first proper outing on my 9:ZERO:7 this morning and found that it was as easy to pedal around my local hills as any of the other bikes I've owned from a Scott Scale to the 6" travel bikes I've had in the past.
I agree with coastkid, weight doesn't play as big a part as people sometimes think, geometry plays a bigger part. Sorry for possibly stating the obvious.
I found myself pushing hard on the pedals at first, thinking it would be a slog to get going but was surprised when the bike just lifted off. The loose climbs I rode were taken in its stride and the downhills seemed fine although I decided to take it easy as the bike is quite different to navigate from previous bikes. Obviously turning those large wheels requires a different technique which I'll get to grips with with experience.
I'm not certain of the weight but at a guess, maybe 35lbs-ish?
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9zero7 need a UK distributer!
Mate Si texted me today to say he has got a domain name secure for a UK Fatbike website!. It will be up and running hopefully next week.
Been chatting with him a few days about this. Seeing as things are going to get real popular soon what with the new found interest in the xc riding side of things and Surly Krampus 29= 3" coming soon it would be good to get it all under one roof as some folk do not use Facebook and Singletrack forum or MTBR fatbike forum. Often posts dissapear off the front quickly on many sites.
So, a hub for UK fatbike owners with threads for all our types of riding.
A forum only viewable by accepted folk so it does not run into a mass of pages.
We can use it to organise the Gatherings, bivvi weekends, day rides etc...
Also be sticky (fixed) threads for all our UK riding;
xc, beach,snow (prey again!), racing, builds threads, a What part threads for new builds etc, fat curious folk, Ride report thread, swap/sell thread etc...
Be what we make it.... -:)
let you know when its up and running...
This thread has started to get me thinking Fat....one more question (forgive me if it has been covered before).
What about sticky mud sticking to tyres, mud clearance and the uber weight of a 3"tyre pastered in mud....
are you saying my nice new 29er was a waste of money? I've been out-niched?
bugger
The extra weight gives you stronger legs. 😉
[quote=julioflo ]This thread has started to get me thinking Fat....one more question (forgive me if it has been covered before).
What about sticky mud sticking to tyres, mud clearance and the uber weight of a 3"tyre pastered in mud....
That'll be an interesting one. Prior to the Husker Du and Nate the tyres didn't have a great depth of tread so tended to "float over" rather than "drag through" mud. That's not to say that some specific consistencies of mud aren't so sticky that they'd even adhere to teflon-coated tyres 🙂
Mud clearance on the mainstream models isn't so bad, although certain combinations of tyre/rim and gearing can result in the chain cleaning the driveside of the tyre.
The Krampus (29er fattie) looks to be severely compromised regarding mud clearance (i.e. there is none). I guess the designers didn't consider it a requirement 🙄
Druid, Surly have addressed the issue and the production Krampus has a lot more clearance than the samples you might have seen.
I put my Nate on my Jones today (mud everywhere 🙁 ) - I actually thought it looked quite small compared to a Big Fat Larry 😀 !! - I managed to loose the front wheel on some slick chalk today - so there are some situations where a Nate will loose it!
Anyway, they sound ace. I'd love to try one. Anyone have one in the South West / near Dartmoor? I'm thinking they'd make mince meet of grassy/slightly boggy moortops and loose rocky descents...
[quote=Sideways Tim ]Druid, Surly have addressed the issue and the production Krampus has a lot more clearance than the samples you might have seen.
Oh good. I reckon that a sorted Krampus could be a "beast" for lots of UK riding 🙂
I agree. Was surprised how nimble it was.
I'm working on 907 at the minute - couldn't afford to do it before, but...
julioflo
Anyone have one in the South West / near Dartmoor? I'm thinking they'd make mince meet of grassy/slightly boggy moortops and loose rocky descents...
I've not seen one down here, but I have seen fatbike tracks on the Southern moor in the past (up near Redlake) ... might have been a migrant tho'. 😉
My Swift has 30mm rims and 2.4's on it, which give me just a hint of what full fat-biking could be like, and ... (dodgy I know, but) extending the way he rides, I'd expect boggy moors and loose rocky [rotting granite] descents would be fine. 🙂
I've definitely got one on my shopping list - just got to decide which one!
Stanfree, your right about The Yak. He seems to offend nearly everyone he comes in contact with. If he wasn't such an unbelievably awesome rider I don't think anyone would tolerate him at all.
Some more films for the "fat for xc" curious 🙂