And then they give you it back when they're done with it, but with a pinch puncture that is fairly close to the valve so may or may not be able to be fixed.
Bombers?
just give it back to them.
Kev
Inner Tubes are like Books, when you lend one, you shouldn't expect to get it back, but maybe get a different one from them at a later date..
Woah! You don't just go steaming in there with bombers.
There's a sliding scale. Wee in shoes first, windmill arms second. Then and only then may you apply bombers.
I'd write off any tube I lent out.
Having said that if someone lent me a tube I'd always return a new one regardless of what they'd given me.
assume you lent it out intact ? if so you i'd expect same in return
then again, i've never [u]expected[/u] one back at all
I'd give someone a tube, I would never lend them one
Also what is it with lending someone a premium lightweight tube and getting back a halfords/tescos special, its not on!!!!
IMHO lending out a tube = karma
retro83 I hate to pull you up on this but I think you'll find its windmill, shoes, bombers.
Someone doesn't bring a tube on a ride with them?
Gets a puncture?
They walk.
(just to put a different perspective on it, like)
Easy solution carry a tube with a few repairs just for this type of situation. It's always there if you have a very bad puncture day and you can lend it without feeling to bad if it isn't returned. 😉
I'd write off any tube I lent out
I'd say that was giving 🙂
If someone 'lent' me tube I'd give them one back mind
I'm going to add "Can I lend you a tube' to my list of creepy chat up lines.
MrNutt - Memberretro83 I hate to pull you up on this but I think you'll find its windmill, shoes, bombers.
😳
I wouldn't expect it to be returned. However if someone made a brouhaha about some tube they leant me on a random ride 6 months ago I may well return it with some awkwardly placed punctures.
I'll post you down a new one if it would make you feel better.
I wouldn't expect to see it again or necessarily to get one from the same person later- I just rely on karmic justice to sort it out somewhere down the line.
But if I gave someone a tube and then they gave me a duff one in a fairly direct exchange I would think that's not on.
Give it to them, tell them to switch to tubeless.
Then abuse them every time they puncture when they dont swap over and refuse to give them a tube.
Converted me anyway...
if I gave someone a tube, I would expect a new one back in return
it's a given isn't it?
although I wouldn't make a song and dance about it if I didn't get one back
Give it away. Expect nothing in return.
Karma, big on that today. 😀
I gave someone a Supersonic tube albeit begrudgingly, got a cheapo kendo nagasaki heavyweight back, and they broke my Conti tyre lever and didn't say.
I don't seem to get Karma back at me.
I run tubeless though 😀
Carry around a slow puncture tube, give them that
If you give someone a new spare tube then I would expect a new one back, I don't think that's unreasonable. Why not expect one back?
Met a guy at Torridon last year in the middle of nowhere without a spare tube! I only had the one with me as well and was pretty reluctant to give it away as I knew I would prob need it. Gave it to him anyway and sure as sh1te got a few flats later that day, not happy to say the least. Lessons learned for me, if I meet someone who has forgot a spare essential in the middle of nowhere your not having my last spare. Pack properly!
Back in the day when I used tubes, I'd expect a new or unblemished one in return, if thats what I lent out.
These days I don't carry tubes, what with being tubeless. Of our regular group, even the most recalcitrant 'tuber' has gone tubeless this year, I guess he was fed up with everyone standing around and watching him switch out tubes all the time.
We were certainly fed up waiting for him.
These days I don't carry tubes, what with being tubeless
you do realise you're going to rip a massive hole in a tyre this weekend don't you?
Give a punctured tube and ride of fast when you start to s****.
😯 😛
Which a tube wouldn't be capable of sorting anyway. 😉
Tubes are 'given' to mates
Just like pints are bought - we don't really count how many / who did last
It all works out in the end - that's why they're my mates and that's why I ride with them 😀
Never have and never will expect a tube returned to me I'd lent someone.
if you meet some knob with no tubes or puncture kit why feel obliged to help. if they are to stupid to take kit with them, or to tight to buy some hoping they can scrounge some they deserve to get left in the shite. i would stop and help anybody if they had made the effort themselves by taking kit with them. its sort of the done thing in my book to ask if anybody needs a hand if the bikes upside down on the trail.
Tubes are 'given' to matesJust like pints are bought - we don't really count how many / who did last
It all works out in the end - that's why they're my mates and that's why I ride with them
My thoughts exactly, tubes are part of the communial "parts bin" which changes hands regularly for beer:
[i]Bang, tssssss[/i]
"Bugger, forgot a spare tube"
"Muppet, no worries. There you go"
"Cheers, first round is on me"
"Cool, mines a pint of Tradewinds"
Simple 🙄 8)
Mmmmmmm. Tradewinds.
I always thought of tubes like cigarettes. Not necessarilly dished out to anybody, but what goes around...
Trouble is I stopped smoking five years ago. Hmmm.
Last time I was lent a tube by a mate it was one of them Slime things, I had a horrendous day with more punctures in one ride than I'd had all year.
After the ride I took it out and returned it to him, he looked most shocked - in a good way 😀
Nearly got drummed out of the brownies for not returning a tube. I punctured in a road race and an old boy who was spectating very kindly gave me a tube so I could get back to the hq. Some months later my club chairman got a letter from said old boy complaining bitterly that I hadn't returned the tube saying I was a disgrace to my club and didn't I realise he was a poor pensioner and couldn't afford a new one.
Well if you want me to return the thing then say so and at least tell me who you are yer divot!
He got the tube back. Nicely packed with a packet of Haribo in the hope they would glue his bloody dentures together.
Maybe a bit more info is needed.
Tube was lent with the assumption I would get one back within a few weeks or so, although this wasn't said. Person who was borrowing had come on a weekend of riding and racing hadn't brought a tube. Said person works at a bike shop so I imagine can get them fairly cheaply. It was a brand new tube.
They gave it back to me the same day, but dirty and with the pinch puncture.
For me, this is like borrowing a fiver off a mate and then only giving them £1 back. Think I would have been less peeved if they had never returned anything.
[i]Think I would have been less peeved if they had never returned anything[/i]
I think I agree.
its sort of the done thing in my book to ask if anybody needs a hand if the bikes upside down on the trail.
But then Ok to call them a nob and ride off laughing if they had forgot a tube. 😯
Why are you bitching on here about it? Be a real man and tell them they're out of order.
If you give someone a tube when they've gone out without a spare then how are they ever going to learn?
Tough love next time Real Man!
If you give someone a tube when they've gone out without a spare then how are they ever going to learn?
Well I didn't really want to, because I run tubeless, and only carry two tubes. So if I had had two failures I would've been stuffed. However, because of their position and how they were asking, they forced me into giving them one really.
It does happen that I do owe them about a fiver, maybe I should just not pay that back?
I've rescued people before by giving them a tube, most recently last week when riding to work. Don't expect anything back. Would like to think someone would do the same for me.
drac, if you read what i said it doesnt mention forgetting to bring any kit,or riding of laughing bro. it says if they dont have any and couldnt be arsed to bring or buy there own. im sure there is a difference between that and simply forgetting isnt there. ive also met people with tubes and no pump so how is that explained away. is it simply they forgot or they thought sod it someone else can buy one for me to use and save me the money.
if that seems fine to you im more than happy for you to send me £5 worth of diesel for my car , save me the effort of putting some in bro. 😉
You're right it doesn't, it is a very arrogant post though calling people stupid and nobs for not having a tube then assuming it's because they can't be bothered.
Your not a friend or random stranger in trouble and certainly not my 'bro' so pay for your own fuel.
i think its obvious that you would first asses the situation at hand, hi everything ok, no i forgot my tubes shite. no probs heres one. or hi everything ok. no brought no tubes or pump hoping id be ok. nob serves you right then. see ya. 2 different senarious there isnt there tbh.
your not my bro or friend or random stranger. you seem quite opinionated though fella. moderator or not. seems your opinion counts more than mine eh.
I've given strangers tubes when asked and they always give me a fiver! I'll a Yorkshireman though!
It's the same with chain links!
I'd still happily give them a tube.
Yes I'm opinionated but I take others on board if it's sensible, when it's not it's best not to. I'm not sure why that matters even as a mod, we're allowed opinions too.
Ill always happily give someone a tube or repair a puncture for them.
Not so long ago I was unloading bikes from the car outside the house and a couple of guys asked to borrow a tube as they had punctured near my house. I gave them a tube, fitted it for them and sent them on their way. The balance of Karma was returned when one of them turned up on my doorstep later that evening with a couple of beers. Just the way it should be 🙂
Getting back a lent tube punctured, shows about as much respect as getting back a lent condom complete with fluids. Did you show them that picture of you in that king of the mountains top?
I'd give someone a tube, I would never lend them one
+1
I've happily given my spare tube to a stranger before. can't believe how many of you wouldn't help a fellow cyclist in need.... Thatchers bloody children...
does anyone carry a puncture kit?
i'd offer the puncture kit first, if the tube was beyond repair i'd give them a tube.
I give my neighbours free tubes (and often fit them for them) when their kids bikes get punctures.
I always try to remember to give back a tube I'm lent but I never used to ever take a pump to a trail centre as there's always a group of folk with ridiculous sized backpacks standing around chatting at the start of each section to borrow one off.
christ I wouldn't give a toss, its just stuff after all, how long have you owed him a fiver for?
One day you will need favour from a stranger that you cannot repay. It's called altruism.
putting asside all the opinions we have such as yes id lend one or yes id give one free or even yes id fix the bike for them which in most cases id do myself. who believes like me that if you are a cyclist then its YOUR responsibillity to carry atleast enough gear to get you on your way with out relying on others to bail you out. im not talking about having 5 punctures in one day and running out of tubes or even making the mistake of forgetting to take all you gear. im talking about the ones that dont/ didnt bring anything hoping someone elses hard earned cash can be pished away giving your gear away to them. why is it karma then. also if it were that you ever needed help from a stranger in most cases it would be for this exact reason, run out mid ride or frogot by accident. not couldnt be arsed to buy it.
you wouldnt go running with no laces in your shoes or swimming with no trunks hoping some one would sort you out so i feel im right thinking the same about bike gear.
drac. if i sounded arrogant i apologise but there are to many tight gits out there hoping the world will do them a favour everytime they ask and it wont in my book. ive given tubes and chain links and even once a spair folding tyre to the needy but never to a scrounger who couldnt buy there own to start with.
There was me thinking I had alpinestar's opinion covered on the first page..
a tube is 30 bob, whats the issue, lend away, what goes around comes around
putting asside all the opinions we have such as yes id lend one or yes id give one free or even yes id fix the bike for them which in most cases id do myself. who believes like me that if you are a cyclist then its YOUR responsibillity to carry atleast enough gear to get you on your way with out relying on others to bail you out. im not talking about having 5 punctures in one day and running out of tubes or even making the mistake of forgetting to take all you gear. im talking about the ones that dont/ didnt bring anything hoping someone elses hard earned cash can be pished away giving your gear away to them. why is it karma then. also if it were that you ever needed help from a stranger in most cases it would be for this exact reason, run out mid ride or frogot by accident. not couldnt be arsed to buy it.you wouldnt go running with no laces in your shoes or swimming with no trunks hoping some one would sort you out so i feel im right thinking the same about bike gear.
drac. if i sounded arrogant i apologise but there are to many tight gits out there hoping the world will do them a favour everytime they ask and it wont in my book. ive given tubes and chain links and even once a
You have a pretty low opinion of people, just give him the tube.
Getting back a lent tube punctured, shows about as much respect as getting back a lent condom complete with fluids. Did you show them that picture of you in that king of the mountains top?
+1, and lol.
I don't mind lending someone a tube at all, it was more about getting it back punctured (and possibly unrepairable).