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@aracer 😆


 
Posted : 27/07/2015 7:33 pm
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Posted : 27/07/2015 7:40 pm
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@ the above. I'm not 100% convinced they're all clean but I'm not prepared to throw around wild accusations based on nothing but "ZOMG teh dopinz are strong 'cos he attacked once and beat the people he needs to beat!!1!"

I reckon they're cleaner than Lance, no way is it the same racing, you'd watch Lance (a dude with as much muscle as Greipel) stood up for an age attacking like a mentalist.

What I hate is the inconsistency in the attacks on Sky calling for power data/transparency yet nothing from Movistar when he thrashes Froome two days in a row. Most of the time I'm fairly convinced the most vocal haven't even watched the racing.


 
Posted : 27/07/2015 9:47 pm
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just said during the San Sebastian highlights that Valverde was ill with a "fever" after the final Paris stage last week, didn't attend the after party…….


 
Posted : 01/08/2015 7:15 pm
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Meanwhile the IAAF appears to be having a Verbruggen/McQuaid moment according to Auntie.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33749208 ]BBC Athletics[/url]

Pretty depressing stuff if you are a clean athlete. It is "as bad in Athletics as cycling was during the Armstrong era".


 
Posted : 02/08/2015 8:04 am
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That BBC story is no news to many in athletics. Doping has been going on for years in many countries including the UK. There have been well know UK coaches involved in doping, though that does not put the cheating at the same level as the state sponsored levels we have witnessed.

As I recall there were 200 blood samples found in Operation Puerto, 49 cyclists, who were all the rest? Tennis, Football, Athletics were all well represented in those samples. We'll never really know because the Spanish state suppressed the evidence for what reason I'm not sure. I do note with interest though that some of there better know athletes and teams are not doing as well as they were.


 
Posted : 02/08/2015 10:21 am
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Is it really that surprising? The reference to Armstrong like levels of cheating is quite funny- systematic doping has been done way before LA (probably even *better* in other sports!) and will continue long after. Why do we give that nobber the credit of benchmark cheating 😆


 
Posted : 02/08/2015 10:42 am
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DanW very true that.

When you consider what they got up to in East Germany and a number of other countries not so long ago, LA was playing around. Better drugs though.


 
Posted : 02/08/2015 11:05 am
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I was once shown round a lab in the former East Germany which was a very very sophisticated setup for making radioactively labelled molecules "in former times". I didn't understand at the time why they had been making those types of compounds there because it was nothing to do with the other activities on the site and then, a few days later, the penny dropped- that was where they had been developing the PEDs for the state sponsored doping programme.


 
Posted : 02/08/2015 11:09 am
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Not sure if this is relevant to this TdF doping thread or should maybe go into that long-running Lance thread but his story is taking yet another twist:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/33798247


 
Posted : 06/08/2015 12:03 pm
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