[Closed] latex in tubes?

Slime tubes Tony - same thing . How many punctures did I have when riding with you? still use em too.

reason i have steered away from slime tubes, is the image of you covered in green snot, when your front tyre exploded at pateley.
it scarred me for life....... 😆

must admit it was funny 😀 😆

Give em a try and see how you go

What's the reasoning for tubeless not working for the larger rider?

Tubeless, although not 100% reliable is great for sucking up sharp things - I found 22 thorns & a fishing hook in mine when changing worn ones for new. (Live near a canal :))

I tried tubeless once, they deflated at high speed on two occasions and I crashed. Tubes for me.

I used them slime tubes once when I rode from Warwickshire to London on the canal. I didn't have a single puncture.
I did though. When I changed tyres I had twenty odd thorns buried in the tube. They work a treat on small punctures.

heavy rider hitting a object hits it harder, tyre burps on impacts and spunks all over.

makes sense i suppose.

Normal tubes + Flataway kevlar tape.

Yep, I've run my commuter bike like that for the past year or two. Stans in the tubes (pick ones with removable cores to get the goop in easier), and I also run Schwalbe Marathon something-or-others with hefty puncture protection strips in too. No punctures yet.

I don't get to commute as often as I'd like, but I must still have clocked up over a thousand miles on mixed terrain including regular flights of steps and towpaths and dog-shit woods on that setup. It's not exactly an inspiring ride, but it gets me to work and back without any extra hassle and you can roll over pretty much anything without worrying about it. I've ridden over broken glass and smashed car windows and all-sorts without any bother.

How [s]fat[/s] manly are you Tony?

I'm 120kg and tubeless - 26/32psi - is working fine for me.

(Have had one burp, but I was at the completely vertical stage of going over the bars at the moment it happened, which was probably putting an unusually high load through the front tyre).

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Only ever had it burp once when I was seeing how low I could run them. Now I just run them at normal pressures for a fat person and enjoy not having punctures.

heavy rider hitting a object hits it harder, tyre burps on impacts and spunks all over.

Nonsense. Heavier rider just runs more pressure to have the same impact resistance.

Either that or run thicker casing tires.

3 of us all bought the Joe's latex-filled tubes during a trip this spring, really rocky riding on trails covered in spiky stuff and flinty shale. Impressive.. they worked well. I even had that rim-on-rock feeling and lost some pressure, must have been a small pinch-flat. Didn't expect them to seal that. Heavy but effective. Messy when removed. Not tried a home-filled version yet but did consider it for the CX bike during hedge cutting season - used TLR instead.

I used to use slime tubes, and they work OK up to a point but they're quite heavy. One day it won't seal and you'll be sat by the side of the road with fingers covered in green slimy stuff. Don't even bother trying to patch them.

I switched to tubeless and it's a much nicer experience once you work out how to do it.

And I definitely don't believe the "heavy riders can't use tubeless" theory. Or perhaps I shouldn't have gone to Afan at the weekend?

Tubeless is awesome one minor puncture since 2010. That was fixed by simply pumping up after latex did its job. Most people have problems because they bodge it. It's really simple with right gear. If there put on right and not ghetto they are a game changer. If your tyre burps it wasn't fitted correctly orits damaged and you can run very low pressures getting great grip without rolls resistance

Im 95Kg and run mine at 30psi with no problems. I tend to avoid low pressures to keep away the snakebiteburps.

How fat manly are you Tony?

120kg. I reckon we could be twins........ 😆

gonna give latex a go.

I use Stans in my tubes on my MTB trainer for predominantly road miles with the odd bit of off road to avoid rat runs etc. They've sealed a couple of punctures.

Using tubes allows me to use MTB tyres that have unfixable tubeless punctures. As I ran Schwalbe I have a lifetime supply of those.

Resurrected as I'm very intersted to know how this works out, my bike almost went in the river last night when I got my 5th puncture this week 👿

What sealant are people using now, is stans still the weapon of choice?

Put stans in my tubes on my commuter, had a small nick from a piece of glass. Didn't seal it. Sealant everywhere. Just run tubes now . All mtbs run tubeless, in the fleet, without any issues. Needed a tube only once in 8 or 9 years.

Does UST (rims and tyres) remove the burping risk?

How fat manly are you Tony?
120kg. I reckon we could be twins........

Maybe, but I have a hunch you're a little taller!

Been using it on my winter bike and my commuter. Gone for slime tubes in the 26er and Sludge in the 29er. That is Sludge of South African manufacture (and sourced from ebay)rather than Dr Sludge which is Weldtite's take on it. The SA Sludge has a nifty designed top that makes it fairly easy to put into any tube. If you are using presta tubes then continental ones with removable valve cores make it a lot easier. Seems to last about a year before it needs replacing/topping up. No experience of using artists' latex although seen it written up.

Avoided an awful lot of punctures come the hedge cutting season.

I put stans in my road / commuter bike inner tubes, [got to use continental or schwalbe with removable valve cores to get latex in.

Definitely get less punctures. When a puncture occurs when riding along, tyre tends to hiss and squirt till pressure drops to 50 psi or so [from 90-100psi] enough to get you home. leave it for a while, preferably with puncture at 6 o'clock position, to allow latex to puddle over hole, then pump up to 90psi before setting off again.

Downsides are that it only works on smaller holes, due to higher pressures than mtb tyre and thinness of tube compared to a tyre.

Valve cores get blocked with dried latex after a while, [though can be easily removed and cleaned.

Sometimes latex curdles up into a solid ball in tube.

Difficult to repair a tube with puncture repair on side of road when tube has latex in as when you re-inflate the latex seems to hinder the rubber cement from working, so best to throw in a new tube and fix punctured tube later, levying to a few hours for the patch to cure properly before re-inflating.

All in all, I reckon I get about a third / quarter of the amount of punctures that I used to. So worth it, though better to carry a spare tube and throw that in rather than trying to fix a latex filled tube in-situ.

+1 for above.

Stans in my skinny schrader tubes (use a small funnel to apply)and it seems to work a treat. Still get the odd flat tyre the morning after but not on the trail yet.

Can be hard to pump up due to partial valve blockage, so I make sure the spare tube is untreated.

+1 for tubeless, it is a complete revolution here in the thorny parts of the world. I'm not as manly as you but have only once burped a tyre in more than 10k km of riding and racing and that was because I had about 10psi in the front, too lazy to top up and regretted it.

I met one of the top South African marathon pros the other day and his method for correct tyre pressure was novel but made sense: push the bike into a curb or square edged rock, the right pressure is just enough to make you physically unable to deform it enough to pinch it... So different rider weights and different tyres will need different pressures. Not exact but made me think...

17 stone 7lb and run tubeless on all my bikes, three with UST rims and tubeless tyres one with gorilla tape only ones I've had issue with was a ghetto using TLR tyres and Fenwicks sealant......which is only meant for true Tubeless tyres due to its lack of rubber content......got that direct from Fenwicks having moaned about the sealing of the tyres with it and one burp of a front tyre on again a ghetto set up at Antur on an off camber landing.
I now use and stick to Slime Pro sealant as I'm lazy and use CO2 cartdidges out on the trail and stans etc can cure instantly under such applications.....slim pro stays liquid using CO2 and for a good 2 years under all conditions IME.
I run no lower than 30psi but generally front and rear 35psi with no issues.