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[url= http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/analysis-armstrongs-tour-blood-levels-debated ]http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/analysis-armstrongs-tour-blood-levels-debated[/url]

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Posted : 10/09/2009 7:08 pm
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scientists looking to make names for themselves ???


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 7:25 pm
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Interesting.


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 7:33 pm
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Very interesting.


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 8:18 pm
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most very interesting.


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 8:24 pm
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does seem odd that his Hb levels and haematocric didn't drop over the course of the tour like the majority of the other blood results released


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 8:30 pm
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I know pure dead tons about blood and that and I think it's pish.

A. Scientist

(no, not really. But it's pish though eh?)


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 9:03 pm
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[i]scientists looking to make names for themselves ??? [/i]

The chap who did the analysis has only just finished his PhD.


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 9:09 pm
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Jakob Mørkeberg has written 10 peer-reviewed papers on blood doping within the past three years, and has completed a Master’s thesis entitled Autologous Blood Doping. He has just submitted a PhD dissertation Detection of Autologous Blood Transfusions via Analyses of Peripheral Blood Samples. One of his major goals as an anti-doping researcher is to find a method to detect such transfusions in sporting competitions such as the Tour de France.

He was involved in the running of the CSC and Astana anti-doping programmes until the end of 2008.

sounds to me like he has a fair amount of experience and all he has done is raise questions not reach any conclusions. More evidence but still no smoking gun.

He has probably been in research on this for 5 - 10 yrs. 2 yrs for the masters and 3 for the PHD at a minimum


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 9:17 pm
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But has he failed a drug test? No.


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 9:19 pm
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Is there a test for autologous transfusions? No.


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 9:25 pm
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[i]Jakob Mørkeberg has written 10 peer-reviewed papers on blood doping within the past three years[/i]

From all those papers, he has only been cited three times (i did a WoK search earlier)


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 9:28 pm
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a strange way of evaluating evidence?


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 10:07 pm
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Yoda that is because the way they decided whether they have failed or not is odd. If they have a hemocrit level of over 50% (I think) it is classed as a fail, but you can have a natural level of under 50% and top it up to 50 without failing. Has David Miller ever failed, no. Neither have many more of the convicted dopers.


 
Posted : 10/09/2009 11:17 pm