So my GPS (Lezyne) has reasonable routing from the mobile app, and I can transfer routes from other sources (including my own).
But there's also some sort of Komoot integration that apparently allows me to plan/find routes on the komoot app and push them to the device (if I'm understanding correctly?) But I need to have stumped up more for a package of maps of some sort, I can buy individual regions, or the whole world for a one off £30, or pay a fiver a month for "premium"... what benefit is there in paying £60 a year over £30 once if all I want to do is plan routes, borrow other people's and send them to my GPS? Or have I missed something and I have to pay for premium?
I paid for premium komoot only to be very disappointed there's a premium premium version. Apart from having more geographical coverage there wasnt anything to justify it over the free version if all youre doing is route syncing. The premium maps are still pretty hopeless in places and the route generation will still send you up private roads and driveways.
Komoot offer (or least did when I lasted checked a few years ago!) a basic version which allows you to map for a specific region only for free.
Above that, you can pay for mapping for other maps (regions) as a one-off payment.
On top of either, you can also pay monthly for "premium features" such as different map types.
Every so often, they have sales on the region cost (e.g. I got worldwide coverage for $20US about 18 months ago).
I've never paid for their Premium version.
Separately, Komoot have a Garmin app I've installed (for free) on my Garmin Edge so I can route plan in Komoot (on my phone or web browser) and sync to my Garmin. I'm not sure whether they offer something similar for other device types.
HTH
I bought the Komoot "Worldwide mapping" pack a couple of years ago when it was on offer for about £20. That offer seems to be repeated occasionally. Works well enough for me and I don't need the Premium features of weather forecasts, multo-day route planning etc, although being able to have folders/collections of routes would be handy once you've started to plan/store a few.
My Komoot account syncs to my Garmin Connect account so that anything I draw on Komoot automatically appears on my Fenix and Edge. For my Oregon I have to use a Garmin IQ app to get them.
It's all very seamless and works remarkably well.
Being basde on OSM mapping I can edit any mapping errors I find, including new tracks, gates, bridges and surface types and chanegs typically sync through from OSM into Komoot with two weeks (often sooner).
all of what scotroutes said, including the correcting the map although even if it updates on Komoot it won't update on your Garmin for ages. You only need to pay for the worldwide maps once really.
All lovely stuff but I'm looking at it to use primarily with a Lezyne (Garmin is an option perhaps also).
I suppose I'm more interested in the routes people share on komoot and being able to punt them straight to a device. I was away on holibops in an unfamiliar location this week and got a single day for a road ride. I used the basic komoot app to look up general route ideas an places of interest, but then planned my own route (and re-route) fine with the Lezyne app (which just uses Google maps). It was fine but I can see that way of doing routes becoming tiresome and eventually falling over.
The only thing that prompted me to consider komoot was there being a komoot button on the Lezyne app. I've had komoot on my phone for a while but found it less useful when I first installed it, so haven't bothered since. I'm just wondering if it could be more useful than I'd realised.
I use it both for planning and also following routes others have done when I go to new places. Neither are perfect as sometimes it sends you down places that are impassable (although that is less likely on a road route) and sometimes it sends you on roads that are too busy for comfort. Following routes others have done works better but usually you need a mix of the two. It also works very nicely on a phone so I prefer it to the Garmin interface if I'm out somewhere and need to change what I am doing or where I'm going as sending it to the head unit is easy. I would suspect it is just as easy with the lezyne.
Yeah, planning with the phone app is pretty straightforward once you've mastered the setting and moving of waypoints.
Had a bit of a play and it's 'Komoot tours' dunno if that's different, anyway I.linked the two accounts and all it does is pull routes from your komoot planned tours list into the Lezyne app to then punt over to the device, I think the mapping it's overlayed on would still be that from the Lezyne app (Google maps). It works for routes close to home (which I got the map pack for when I first installed komoot), try to do it for anything further afield and you bump into the lack of that komoot map pack.
I might keep an eye out for the global pack on an offer...
It's convenient but I've imported routes from other sources I think komoot would be handy if I'm away without having been able to plan properly before...
I think the mapping it’s overlayed on would still be that from the Lezyne app
That makes sense. It's the same when importing to Garmin. You only get the gpx data, not the Komoot mapping.
That makes sense. It’s the same when importing to Garmin. You only get the gpx data, not the Komoot mapping.
So Garmin is basically the same level of 'integration' as with Lezyne (are wahoo or Hammerhead a similar deal I wonder?) it's a simple APK they've shared to allow GPX import. And (as ever) the useful content is user generated...
All that £30 would mean is that I could randomly land up in Azerbaijan, Hull, Tel-Aviv or Colorado and seamlessly borrow a locals route. Normally I plan and plot ahead, work up a route on the PC and upload it before travelling, so it's got limited appeal. If it's going cheap later in the year I might have it...
I paid for premium komoot only to be very disappointed there’s a premium premium version
Extra Premium? So Premium they hide the option? What extras do you get, how can I access it? Or is it a case of of "If you need to ask..."
All that £30 would mean is that I could randomly land up in Azerbaijan, Hull, Tel-Aviv or Colorado and seamlessly borrow a locals route. Normally I plan and plot ahead, work up a route on the PC and upload it before travelling,
Yep, I much prefer plotting a route myself, even if it's a recommended one, because I can then see what sort of surfaces it's on, what villages and shops it passes, what hazards there might be and if there are any worthwhile detours. And I tend to use Komoot for that.
Holy thread resurrection Batman!
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Seems Komoot is going to put the ability for routes to automatically sync to devices (Eg Garmin, Wahoo etc) behind a paywall:
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2025/03/komoots-expanded-paywalls-trying-to-make-sense-of-it.htm
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