[Closed] Kielder 100 what bike and tires?

did it on my 224 last year with dual ply supertackies.

be reet.

I'm going for my 456, but I'll definitely be fitting very fast rolling tyres. It makes no sense to make it even harder. and yeah it is all fireroad, last year said fireroad was covered in half an inch of gloop making the going very slow

do you have another bike?

tyre change is easy and cheap. bike change is not.

I think to paraphrase a quote from the book of the bivvy, the most important thing about bikes/tyres is that there should be one/some

If you’re not going for the win, ride something comfy and reliable.

Sounds like you have a nice bit of kit there, just concentrate of riding LOTS between now and the week before the event. Also get your feeding/drinking on the bike sorted and you will not die, yet.

That’s what I’m doing anyway, see you out the back 😆

You can't possibly do 100 miles on a 5 too much travel and the head angle is too slack. You need between 83.5 and 110.7 mm of travel to even think about it. Go and buy a new bike now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers guys, might look at some faster rolling tires then, if I can be arsed! Don't currently have another mountain bike, but I've been looking longingly at the P7s in my LBS, but there isn't really any way to justify getting one.

if you cant be arsed to change tires then 100 miles might come as a shock.

ba ha ha.

run what you brung mate. unless you;re trying to win... i should imgaine faster rolling tyres will roll faster...

ac282, I hope you're not serious! 🙂

Change the tyres if you want to - if you're used to them and you get on with them, then don't.

People worry too much! To quote an old MTB Magazine - "Just get out and ride"!

K100 on a full bouncer = death...
K100 on a HT = 95% chance of life...

Just get a P7, any excuse for a new bike I say!

I will be taking my Yeti 575 so an Orange 5 is fine IMO.

As for tyres, I will probably stick with a Maxxis Advantage 2.25 on the front, but stick something faster rolling on the back. I personally don't think it's worth sacrificing front end confidence for something that might roll a bit better.

Otherwise if you can save a bit of weight off the bike without affecting durability then go for it. I-beam saddle and seat post is good for this.

My other advice would be don't carry anything with you that you don't need.

nowt wrong with FS I'd have thought aslong as it's a light non wallow/bob-y. I'm taking my etsx (125mm front and rear) will be getting fast rolling tyres tho and hoping for a heatwave the 2 weeks before to bake the trails and cool clear still weather on the day 🙂 moon stick etc

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I-beam saddle and seat post is good for this.

zesty 714, fast rolling tyres so lighter than most hardtails and no bob at all in pro pedal

Which bike should I use:- Yeti 575 or a Rock Lobster 853??

You'll be fine on a 5

Faster tyres would help a good bit

I'd put a bit more air in the tyres, shock & forks + lock the forks & switch the pro-pedal on

If you don't do it already, lift the saddle to a roadie sort of height

changing seatpost and saddle before ride will make (aside from discomfort)

drumroll...

fucck all difference.

how many tubes and things are you taking? the added spares/food you need will instantly outweigh saving 15 grams on a different post setup.

I say if you bike is working ok & the seat is fine leave it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it comes to mind!

My 2yr old tyres are wearing down well. Should be nice and slick down the middle in time for the 4th Sept. Just hoping the crack in my seat tube doesn't get any bigger.

That distance on those tyre may come as a bit of a shock. Something easier rolling would make it a more enjoyable experience.

I-beam saddle and post was just an example and there would be plenty of time to get used to a new saddle before Sept.

I suggest you get some lighter, faster rolling tyres, 2.1 RRalfs or some such and practise on them. Tubeless is a sensible way forward IMHO.

I'd say the Orange is a tad over biked, but if it's what you have, don't fret about it.

It's the eqivalent of the M25 to Nottingham, or the M25 to Bristol, off road, so don't think that a bit of fire road will see you make up time, you need to be fast everywhere. I predict 300+ riders failing this year, so don't get stuck at the back with no way of getting through the pack or you'll be black-flagged at 50 miles and sent back to the Castle of Shame, your race over.

That distance on those tyre may come as a bit of a shock. Something easier rolling would make it a more enjoyable experience.

It isn't all fire road if so everyone would just run slicks!

Few bits of light singletrack, alot of bumpy singletrack but not muddy. Its a long way and conditions last year made it very hard.

Just make sure you can do big distances on the mtb before hand. If your only used to 30 odd mile runs then you will be in for a shock.

if its dry ge a pair of semi slicks on and enjoy the free rolling

i suggest 600k audaxes for training eh MS

Ok so we've done tyres and I've chosen my bike. I'm doing a couple of races and very long training rides over the next few months. Has anybody got any tips and advice on other kit. What worked for you, what didn't.

My bike only has one bottle cage and I can't get another on as it's a full suss. I've got a saddle bag that will take tubes, multitool, phone and a few other bits. I've bought a ste/top tube bag to try out.

How are you guys carrying stuff. I was thinking of getting as much as possible on the bike and then food in my jersey and a racing camelback to suppliment my bottle with about 1L of water. That should easily see me between feed stations I think?

Spd's or flats? I normally ride offroad on flats. Was there much walking/pushing or did you ride 100%.

remember there's 5 (?) feed stations, 3 have bag drops, 1 has sarnies, cake, soup etc.
so there's feed station every 15 miles or so. so you've never more than 1.5 hours away from food and water. i'll have one bottle and a few gels. I'll make full use of the bag drops...

My mistake last year was to look at it as one long ride, so after 65 miles, I could only think 35 to go, I'm knackered, so I stopped. This year I'm looking at it as 4 or 5 short rides, split up by the feed stations.

I ran quite worn 2.2" Mountain Kings last year, on a 26" wheeled rigid singlespeed. 32:17. Pump strapped to frame, tools/tubes in small saddlebag, two bottles. Food, warm top and waterproof (and space blanket and whistle) in lightweight rucksack.

so there's feed station every 15 miles or so. so you've never more than 1.5 hours away from food and water. i'll have one bottle and a few gels. I'll make full use of the bag drops...

Last year, there was [b]nothing[/b] between the final checkpoint at mile 78ish and the finish at mile 103ish.

If that's the same this year I'm going for two bottles, but probably only filling one at the start and switching to two later on.

Minimal snacky food in jersey pockets, refilled from feed stations and drop 'bags'. Waterproof strapped to frame or bars or somewhere. Space blanket in saddlebag with tools. Tubes taped to frame. Pump strapped to frame.

I'll be riding an Orange P7 with Nobby nics on - seems to be alright for the other enduro events. You really need to ride the bike that you've done most of your miles on as your body will be used to the geometry and more comfortable when pushing yourself to your limit to get around.

Jonb - There's a list of compulsory gear that you need to take round with you which is on the event website - You might need to usea camelbak to carry all the stuff if you're on your five.

suggestions for "drop" bags pls for a 1st timer. Ta

I don't own a five, I've done most miles on my commuting bike but there's no way I'm riding that (It's actually not far off what miketually rode last year but with a 78" gear.

I'm riding a specialised stumpjumper elite with 5" of travel. I'd ride my 456 but I can't be bothered to put gears on for one race and it would end up a lot heavier.

I'll ride whatever summer tyres I find, I've got some maxxis advantage or nokian nbx hung up in my garrage so either of those.

suggestions for "drop" bags pls for a 1st timer. Ta

Food. Whatever food you like to eat on long rides.

I was planning on munching sweeties the whole way round, so will have some of those in the drop bag. I'm not very good at making myself eat more substantial bits of food (most of what was in my bag last year didn't get eaten) so I'll probably stick a buttered teacake or something in each bag too.

The fast guys, who are usually more bothered about getting the right energy drinks and things had premeasured packs of those in there to add to the water from the feed stations. If you're less fussy, there was energy drink and water available anyway.

The feed stations have crisps, biscuits and fruit/nuts. At least, they did when I got to them, there could have been caviar, quails eggs and swan for all I know 🙂

Spd's or flats? I normally ride offroad on flats. Was there much walking/pushing or did you ride 100%.

I'd stick with what you know. I used flats last year as that's what I always use. I walked a fair few of the climbs, especially toward the end.

Last year i chose Bonty Mud X's on my Epic because it was very wet - if i did it again i'd run the same bike with Ralph's or something similar as there was very little mud in reality - lots of fire road.

The guy I rode it with ran Kenda Small Blocks without major issue.

PS. Don't go expecting mind-blowing singletrack - the Newcastleton section is the undoubted highlight - assuming you've got the concentration to enjoy it after 70 odd miles...

Rigid SS for me with semi-slick tyres, as much as poss strapped to frame, 1 bottle and light weight back pack

cheers miket.can eat anything anytime 😆 but jelly babies, dried fruit and some go-bar type things usually do me along with something chocolate like toffee crisps.

liking the sound of the small blocks.mate uses them so will be trying them out for 10@Kirry and the Hardrock Challenge.

Usually give all these things a miss but have been nagged at to give them a go 🙄

don't get stuck at the back with no way of getting through the pack or you'll be black-flagged at 50 miles and sent back to the Castle of Shame, your race over.

Is it all singletrack up to 50 miles then? I was thinking there would be some overtaking opportunities before then?

PS. Don't go expecting mind-blowing singletrack - the Newcastleton section is the undoubted highlight - assuming you've got the concentration to enjoy it after 70 odd miles...

Nowhere has 50 miles of single track in the UK BWDog! Even Dalby's 38km has loads & loads of places to overtake throughout the trail & that's the longest in the UK I think. Trolling won't make the ride any easier! 😉

there's plenty of places to overtake and the first 5 or 6 miles or so was land rover tracks so you can sort placings out by the 1st singletrack climb. By the 10 or 12 mile mark the people you are riding with you will generally find will be riding your pace all the way round.
Beware not too spend too much time at feeding stations though, mine will be 30secs to 1 minute refilling maximum. Keep your legs moving all the time is the key