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miketually - MemberYou wouldn't be.
well maybe not but I'd have been left will blabbering moron like you 😉
Downgrade yes. His helmet now has grooves down the side.
If we are not careful they will be on them skateboards again without helmets and full padding.
well maybe not but I'd have been left will blabbering moron like you
Nice.
Anecdotal, but I've cracked a bmx helmet and woke up in hospital 2 hours later after a fall from height and taking the entire blow to the side of my head. I cannot believe that the injury would not have been worse without it.
The comment about wearing a helmet when there's busy traffic, icy pavements etc... Doesn't make sense to me as the risk of injury is much much lower. I've been crossing roads for all my life without an injury so far and in 15 years of BMX I visited the hospital maybe a dozen times. Often the better you get, the bigger and more frequent the falls as the riding gets bigger/faster/more technical!
And a 30 second search returned this:
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/Mobile/article.aspx?articleid=412317
"Risk of head injury in helmeted vs unhelmeted cyclists adjusted for age and motor vehicle involvement indicate a protective effect of 69% to 74% for helmets for 3 different categories of head injury: any head injury (odds ratio [OR], 0.31; 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.26-0.37), brain injury (OR, 0.35; 95% CI, 0.25-0.48), or severe brain injury (OR, 0.26; 95% CI, 0.14-0,48). Adjusted ORs for each of 4 age groups (<6 y, 6-12 y, 13-19 y, and ?20 years) indicate similar levels of helmet protection by age (OR range, 0.27-0.40). "
Journal of the American Medical Association. 1996
the (regular) conversation with youngest antigee used to go like this:
her "none of the other riders wear helmets"
me "[i]some[/i] of the other riders don't wear helmets, do any of the really good riders wear helmets?"
her "I guess so"
me "that's because they've been around long enough and seen enough accidents they know it makes sense - if you want to learn new stuff you'll make mistakes"
her "but I don't need to wear it all the time"
me "remember billy's brother? - he wasn't wearing a helmet because he was about to go home and lost all his front teeth and broke his jaw"
her "ok this time"
Every time I bash my head on a low branch I thank my helmet.
Is it just the top of your helmet hitting the low branches?
What proportion of kids who were left alone with Jimmy Savile were made to wear helments when they roller-skated?
(And other vaguely irrelevant questions about risk and forseeability of harm)
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Each to their own. I never even thought about wearing a bike helmet until I was 30.
Commuted to school and back in the early 70s and rode local 'trails' on whatever bike I had from earlier than that.
Toured bits of Wales and the Dales in my later teens , sans helmet.
However I got my first MTB in 1987 and finally bough a helmet in 1990.
Always considered it a good 'idea' and have always dragged it out of whatever corner of the garage or car boot it had rolled to and worn one ever since.
Four years ago, I was riding on damp woodwork on a trail,in Cannock at about 10mph. My front wheel lost grip and went left at what felt like about 700mph.
Having picked myself up and discovered I was surrounded by concerned looking mates, I was very confused, my head hurt and I was talking more bollocks than usual.
I gingerly rode back to the van and sat down to assess the situation: My head did indeed ache, as well as my thigh and shoulder. I took off my helmet and realised then that the outer shell was all that was holding the now smashed foam around the right temple together.
It is, indeed , a good idea.
We'll pop along tomorrow for 6pm. [u]WITH[/u] helmets. The helmet arguement: [b]I aint spoon feeding you for life if you crack your head on tarmac without a helmet. [/b]
If you've done all you can to mitigate risk- then thats unavoidable but not wearing one as its cool, 'its what we did in the 70's' (I remember car deaths were alot higher then no?) or because you can't be arsed then you are a fool. I used to ride down a huge hill in Huddersfield when I was 6yrs old without a helmet. Thank **** nothing happened to me. Thats chance/look nothing else.
*Devil's Advocate*
If you've done all you can to mitigate risk
Riding a bike on a BMX track isn't doing everything you can to mitigate risk. I mitigate risk by not getting sick air and doing 360s.
Responsible parents don't let their kids do tricks?
I aint spoon feeding you for life if you crack your head on tarmac without a helmet.
I aint spoon feeding you for life if you break your neck on tarmac getting radical amplitude.
The helmet arguement: I aint spoon feeding you for life if you crack your head on tarmac without a helmet.
Oh gawd I really try to stay out of these but anyway I've typed most of the below up so I may as well press send...
On the whole [b]I am pro helmets[/b], but the arguments for helmet use normally ignore the very real facts that helmets increase the likelihood of hitting your head in the first place by a significant margin due to the increased size of your head+helmet - your awareness of you personal space means that in a crash you instinctively protect your head - with a helmet on you do not take into account the extra size of the helmet and so head you hit your head on the floor / tree branch etc.
Futher - although a helmet will reduce direct impacts the increased circumference of a helmet increases rotational injuries which can lead to brain trauma and neck injuries which might otherwise not have occurred.
So its not just as simple as saying a helmet reduces risk. It probably does, which is why I wear one - especially down at the BMX track (full face).
This isn't reallly a question of who we would like to suggest should wear helmets, more a question of who should have been compelled to wear a contraceptive.
I aint spoon feeding you for life if you break your neck on tarmac getting radical amplitude.
I think Nurses at hospital tend to roll their eyes don't they, 'ah heres another who should know better' 😆
Ah, eugenics
This isn't reallly a question of who we would like to suggest should wear helmets, more a question of who should have been compelled to wear a contraceptive.
It's the parents whose kids [i]aren't[/i] out on bikes, right?
It's the parents whose kids aren't out on bikes, right?
Or indeed anyone else whose parenting allows us to feel momentarily happy that we're doing it right, because they're doing it wrong.
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On the whole I am pro helmets, but the arguments for helmet use normally ignore the very real facts that helmets increase the likelihood of hitting your head in the first place by a significant margin due to the increased size of your head+helmet - your awareness of you personal space means that in a crash you instinctively protect your head - with a helmet on you do not take into account the extra size of the helmet and so head you hit your head on the floor / tree branch etc.
Catching only the extra inch that wearing a helmet adds will be a very oblique, glancing blow at worst, where the damage is not even worth writing about compared to going OTB head first into the ground without one - something that will happen to nearly everyone at some point if they regularly push themselves riding difficult terrain. You're awareness is worth nothing when you have a split second to react
posted above specific to my kids and bmx and my input as a parent faced with the problem. For general helmet arguments - try and read all this from the land of compulsory helmets (where we currently live) over 7800 posts and not a smile in sight
[url] http://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=31309 [/url]
Everytime someone starts a helmet thread a pixie dies
They should wear helmets then!!
Have you seen pixies ears? It's no wonder they don't wear helmets...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNoo9ZekHbs
Always remember to [s]wear a bike helmet[/s] look where you're going