Out on this mornings ride which unfortunately contains a few road miles, when a driving instructor squeezes by me on a blind bend. So i do what i think is the right thing and put a pm on his Facebook page rather than call him out in public. This was his response: "If you had any thoughts for drivers you would have peddled harder or would your skinny legs not do it. I have to teach my pupils to make progress are you a computer pusher ? Cos you make our life hell just Bob on bye" What a charmer!
Name and shame.
There is no hope.
I've completely stopped fighting my corner whenever conversation turns to cyclists on the road.
Not worth my breath, **** em
Screenshot, name and shame and report.
Report to Driving Standards Authority (or whoever it is that regulates instructors)?
Hopefully he'll lose his job and starve to death
I agree - out him to the press
Legend +1
Attitude like that in that job needs addressing.
This the numpty? [url=
Driving Tuition[/url]
Facebook search is surprisingly efficient!
I'd be reporting that. Twunt.
ring your local rag, they'll lap this up, then the mail will pick it up. Serious suggestion btw
I hope you emailed back to correct his spelling?!
I have screenshot the message and put it on his Facebook page. I'll have a think how I'm going to deal with it tomorrow when I've stopped frothing!
I think that making this thread top of Google searches for him is a good start.
Bretts Driving Tuition - hates cyclists.
That's Bretts Driving Tuition of Flitwick.
He's a racist aswell.
Well that was easy to find: https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-driving-instructor
[quote=legend ]Well that was easy to find: https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-driving-instructor
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You're assuming he's an Approved Driving Instructor
and if he's not he probably shouldn't be actin as one.....
He must have taken it down then there's no message on his Facebook page
I'd have responded that driving instructors holding up traffic make other road users life hell.
Should have let the OP decide whether to name the bloke on here.
On that link, the Skoda has a Green ADI badge so he is a Approved Driving Instructor.
If you want to take it further, ring DVSA Fraud & Integrity on 0191 201 8120
Andy Rice is in charge. They mainly deal with illegal instruction but they will be very interested in this one......
He's a Brexit voter aswell. Says it all.
I would not want that bloke teaching others to drive. He needs reporting. Do it now.
Further reading on that link and he has been an ADI a long time. Some people are saying they passed with him 12 years ago.
He really, really should behave better than that.
[quote=philxx1975 ]He must have taken it down then there's no message on his Facebook page
Nah - it's still there on the FB page of Bretts Driving Tuition of Flitwick. See visitor posts.
That's a pretty nasty and potentially dangerous view from someone with a lot of influence over new drivers. If he doesn't apologise and agree to reconsider that opinion, I'd be complaining about him to his professional body. There's far too many ass hats driving on the road with a shitty attitude towards cyclists - we could do without this twonk creating more.
Report him. Partly for his lack of ability to teach pupils how to overtake a cyclist but also because 'making progress' means making safe progress, not risking a head-on collision...
Isn't this idiot.. A driving instructor who has a blog and some interesting cyclist hating opinions?
[url= http://www.diaryofanadi.co.uk/?p=10361# ]Driving instructor blog[/url]
This was a thread I started a bit ago and has a nasty mail exchange via his blog.
What a nasty, nasty man.
That blog is too literate to be Bretts Driving Tuition.
Go to fb page, visitor posts and click on 'like' - 8 so far but I'm sure STW can do much better than that.
I'm with everyone else about reporting him - and involve local media; local radio breakfast show should be good for 5 minutes worth.
I read through quite a bit of that blog with an open mind, and he actually talks a lot of sense apart from where cyclists are concerned where he appears to have a total mental block to sensible reasoning.
Whilst the guy sounds like he needs reminding about the rules of the road and duties when teaching by his profession body, I'm not sure if I ran Singletrack Towers I'd want the internet witch hunt run from my forum.
There is a delicious irony in a driving instructor having a go at a slower and more vulnerable road user 🙄
OP FB post Liked.
There is a delicious irony in a driving instructor having a go at a slower and more vulnerable road user
Ain't that the truth!
Me Too 🙂 [url=
for those that are lazy
Also his car 😆
I've had similar too!
[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/learner-drivers ]My experience a while back...[/url]
Take heart from the hope that loads of young people are riding bikes before learning to drive so hopefully one of his pupils will call him out.
I'm struggling to believe that the blog is the same person... its fairly well articulated, if more than a little biased against the cyclist.
I had a driving instructor pretty much drive into the side of me while I was on a motorbike, in walking speed traffic. I sounded my horn and shuffled out the way next to the curb. She totally blanked me so I chucked her an email and got this response.
I am absolutely mortified that I missed you. I did not see you at all. As for driving aggressively that was not my intention. I apologise profusely for cutting you up. I did hear a horn and even then I didn't see you as you must have been in my blind spot. I was conscious that something may have happened and I kept my eye on you all the way into town.There is no excuse, I simply didn't see you, I obviously didn't look enough. I can assure you that this has never happened before and, having just returned from 2 weeks off owing to illness, I seriously need to think as to whether I'm fit to drive following this incident.
Again, please accept my utmost apologies, I am embarrassed in the extreme.
Very weird, I'm 6'6" and I was riding a bike green supermoto bike. I was directly in front of her as she moved forwards. Much better response though, I actually apologized for having a rant at her, hehe.
Milky, I get the opposite where I get Learners who hate Cyclists and I have to try to change their opinion.
A while ago, I had a " lady " on an assessment lesson after having lessons with someone else then moving to our area. Obviously the idea is to be as quiet as possible and see how she drove.
Coming upto a cyclist, who was riding correctly in secondary position, this " lady " said look at this #*€$$€# in the middle of the road 😯 I just said just give him plenty room then carry on.
At the time, I had my Bikeability manual in the car so I pulled her over and explained primary and secondary. She wasn't having it and flatly refused to believe the cyclist should be anywhere else but the gutter. She didn't have many lessons as she moved away again.
Got a young lad who hates cyclists, it's got to be fed down from the parents 🙁
I know it's all money and that, but i'd refuse to teach a person with those prejudices unless they'd shown some sort of acceptance to change/learn.
Someone who is vocal about how much they "hate" a particular group of road users simply doesn't have the temperament to be in charge of a 1/2 ton moving lump of metal.
I know it's all money and that, but i'd refuse to teach a person with those prejudices unless they'd shown some sort of acceptance to change/learn.
I understand completely what you are saying and it the time I wanted to tell her to get out my car, but if they are going to want to learn they are going to learn be it with me or someone else.
God knows what they would say about you if you told them to pee off. They would probably just find someone like the OP is going on about.
That young lad I have at the moment is a pain with his attitude but his driving is rubbish and he has failed his theory twice so hopefully he will give up before he moves away to uni.
Yeah, fair enough. I suppose you can at least try to teach them properly rather than Bretts Driving Tuition instilling more hatred.
Contacted the DVSA, so waiting to hear back from them and reported him to Bed's police. They won't do anything but as the person on the phone said, it's now on record for the next time he does it.
Thanks oliverracing, made it easy to like the comment
I'm struggling to believe that the blog is the same person...
It's definitely not, apologies if I gave the impression I thought it was. Location is wrong for a start, chap writing the blog is in Nottingham (and against Brexit, though I don't know how it was worked out that Peter Brett is a Brexiteer)
Report report report!!! C0cktard deserves all he gets 👿
Comments made today by transport secretary Chris Grayling who has stated that “cyclists are not road users” demonstrate an “astonishing lack of knowledge about how people get around” Chris Boardman has said.
Read more at https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/campaigning/article/20170112-campaigning-news-Chris-Grayling%E2%80%99s-comments-show-%E2%80%9Castonishing-lack-of-knowledge%E2%80%9D-on-cycling-says-Boardman-0#2riYV6AWTLgUQFag.99
With someone as clueless as Grayling in charge, the motoring lobby won't have much work to do. Sheesh.
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FFS!
It's the kind of comment you half expect from a backwater parish councilor, but from the [b]transport secretary[/b] for crying out loud!
I do not think i will ever understand the need for one road using group to hate another.
You have to make space for other people whether you like it or not, please explain to me like i'm 5 because I'm starting to lose the will to live with all these nuggets going around
They won't do anything but as the person on the phone said, it's now on record for the next time he does it.
If they won't do anything this time, why should they next time?
Useless bunch of arse wipes.
Grayling will not be held to account for his ignorance - which can be corrected - but he should be.
He should be 'encouraged' to retract his remarks and issue a correction.
Does he have any idea of how many (or should I say, few) miles of cycle lanes there are in the UK - I mean properly segregated, fit for purpose, appropriate width, properly maintained and that includes regular sweeping as happens on roads.
He is not fit for purpose.
No one understands or wants to understand prime position
Has Brett's Facebook page exploded??
Not sure if I've been blocked or not.. all I did was like the OPs comment..
OP, out of interest, who did you speak to at the DVSA ?
Not actually spoken to anyone yet, i tried the link that legend posted but they only man the phones 8am till 12 so I've emailed. I'll give the number you posted a try tomorrow. It looks like he's taken his fb page down or blocked me.
been taken down I'd say
I'll give the number you posted a try tomorrow.
They will be there 9 till 5 normally and you get straight through to a real person. Only trouble is if he has taken his page down or its been taken off, have you a screenshot or anything of his reply to you ?
The lines that are manned 8am - 12 are the booking lines I think. We have a shortcut we use but it's like getting hold of the queen to the general public.
Andy Rices office on my previous post are really helpful.