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[Closed] is the Peak District shortened to Peak or Peaks?

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now in my book it's the Peak[b]S[/b] but others call it the Peak.

If the Lake (singular) District has more than one lake and is shortened to the Lake[b]S[/b] surely the Peak District (singular) that has more than one peak should therefore be the Peak[b]S[/b].

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Posted : 03/04/2009 12:11 pm
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Either but all the tedious pedants will tell you that only Peak is correct.

I call it the Peaks.


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 12:13 pm
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Peak.

Definitely not the Peaks.


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 12:15 pm
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The Peaks. And you can get up to it by riding up the Porter Clough. There's no such place as Stannage Edge though.

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Posted : 03/04/2009 12:20 pm
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i say peak, short for peak district. I reckon both are fine, there's enough people say each. stanage


 
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call it "The Pukes" and annoy [b]everyone [/b]:o)

but, if there's a Dark Peak and a White Peak then surely there's two of them? I can never remember which is which ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 12:24 pm
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There's no 'correct' or 'incorrect'.
If you say one and I say the other but we both understand each other we're both right.


 
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There might not be a Stannage but is there a The Jaggers Cluff, The Jacobs Larder, The Pyndale, The Dirtlow Raik or The Roych Cluff?
It's The Peak District National Park. That solves the continous Peak/Peaks argument.


 
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But what was it before the establishment of the (arbitary) National Park?

And can somewhere be considered 'in the Peak(s)' if it's outside the NP boundary?


 
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N'er cast a cluff till May be stuffed ?


 
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Right or wrong, myself and others I know just say going to The Peaks.


 
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As far as i'm aware there are two section of the Peak district, Dark Peak and White Peak, since there's more than one Peak, the whole district is a plural and thus 'The Peaks'*

*unless you're a local, whereby inbreeding will mean you call it the peak ๐Ÿ˜›


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 12:38 pm
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As a whole it's the Peak District, but it consists of the White Peak and the Dark Peak, so I always refer to it as The Peaks... especially as it's full of little peaks ๐Ÿ™‚

Either will do


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 12:38 pm
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I think you've made The error their The Barce


 
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The Peak District?
No. If it's not in the Peak District National Park as of today, it's not in the Peak/Peaks/Peak District/Peak District National Park. Hence, although my mate wants to move to Buxton and "Live in the Peak District", if he does, he won't because it isn't.
You do know don't you The Pook, The Racing Ralph will be doing The frothing at the mouth thing by now ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 12:38 pm
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*there

(how ironic)


 
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Irony rocks as does The Peaks ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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The Peaks. As someone said, theres two areas.

The Dark peak is the gritstone bit to the north arround (Hope, Bamford etc).

the White Peak is the limestone bit to the south (Dovedale, Ashbourne etc).

Interestingly the Peaks have no peaks, either in the sense they have no mountains or even any hills ending in a 'peak'.


 
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although my mate wants to move to Buxton and "Live in the Peak District", if he does, he won't because it isn't.

not necessarily - presumably the place existed before the national park was created, and may not have had any clearly established boundaries ?


 
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From Wikipedia:

Interesting:

the Peak District is thought to be the second most-visited national park in the world (after the Mount Fuji National Park in Japan).

Theories as to the derivation of the Peak District name include the idea that it came from the Pecsaetan or peaklanders, an Anglo-Saxon tribe who inhabited the central and northern parts of the area from the 6th century AD when it fell within the large Anglian kingdom of Mercia.

All reference on Wiki do call it the(why small 't'?) Peak, eg:

History
The first roads in the Peak were constructed by the Romans,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_District


 
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either in the sense they have no mountains

Mount Famine ? Mam Tor (I think Tor means mountain)


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 12:48 pm
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"No. If it's not in the Peak District National Park as of today....."
Indeed Mam Tor translates to Mother Mountain


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 12:52 pm
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[i]*unless you're a local, whereby inbreeding will mean you call it the peak [:P] [/i]

Lol, that'd be me then.

My beef with "the peaks" is that this is invariably said (here at Sheffield uni) by students who are going to drive out to Ladybower, go for a 2 mile stroll, have a pint and then drive back to Broomhill. So they won't be going to both the dark and white peak, or multiple hill peaks. Hence, "the peaks" isn't appropriate.


 
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All the Devon people I know (including me until I moved away) call Dartmoor "the moors" even though there's only one of it.


 
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If I'm planning a ride over there - I refer to it as 'the Peaks'. When I return (and know where I've been) I'll have been to the dark peak or the white peak.

Incidentally Swoosh - I think you'll find there's only one Lake in the Lake District. 10 brownie point for first correct answer!


 
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If I'm planning a ride over there - I refer to it as 'the Peaks'. When I return (and know where I've been) I'll have been to the dark peak or the white peak.

Incidentally Swoosh - I think you'll find there's only one Lake in the Lake District. 10 brownie point for first correct answer!

Sorry, of course you're right, the rest are just 'Water'. Can't remember which is the 'Lake' right now tho.

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*unless you're a local, whereby inbreeding will mean you call it the peak [:P]

Lol, that'd be me then.

My beef with "the peaks" is that this is invariably said (here at Sheffield uni) by students who are going to drive out to Ladybower, go for a 2 mile stroll, have a pint and then drive back to Broomhill. So they won't be going to both the dark and white peak, or multiple hill peaks. Hence, "the peaks" isn't appropriate.

but then surely neither is the phrase 'the peak' in that context as they're not actually going to any peak at all if they are walking along the banks of the ladybower.


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 2:13 pm
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Bassenthwaite is the Lake. All the others are waters or meres


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 2:15 pm
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Well done Matt-H, you win! Did you use a map, or have you been to too many pub quizzes?!


 
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I'm from Carlisle originally


 
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I think you'll find there's only one Lake in the Lake District. 10 brownie point for first correct answer!

Windermere - lake
Coniston Water - lake
Ullswater - lake
Hayeswater - reservoir
Haweswater - lakeish reservoir
Thirlmere - lakeish reservoir
Derwent Water - lake
Skeggles Water - pond
Buttermere - lake
Crummock Water - lake
Loweswater - lake
Was****er - lake
and assorted tarns...


 
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What defines an area of water as lake, mere, pond and tarn?


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 2:30 pm
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History and size most people think:

http://www.whitehaven-news.co.uk/1.65787


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 2:32 pm
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...and most people I know (in Keswick) talk about 'the lake' rather than 'I'll meet you by Derwent Water..'. Bassenthwaite is know as 'Bass' by most - it's rare you ever hear the 'lake' tagged on the end.


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 2:36 pm
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when are the annual 'worst thread of the year' awards?


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 2:51 pm
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What defines an area of water as lake, mere, pond and tarn?

I think of a lake as being at the bottom of a valley and a tarn as being somewhere up a hill. A mere is anyone's guess. A pond is too small for a boat.
HTH


 
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If you reread my thread, I stated there is only one 'Lake', not one 'lake' - spot the capital letter. So whilst there is many lakes, there is only one Lake.

Really - you lot would be crap on QI!!


 
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I stated there is only one 'Lake', not one 'lake'

therefore it shall henceforth be known as 'The Watermere District'


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 3:21 pm
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Does it really ****in matter what people call it/them?

BTW - I live near Matlock, just outside the Southern edge of the White Peak. I ride round bits of the White Peak from my front door, but when going up to Hope, generally say I'm going up to the Peak District. I actually never call it the Peak, or Peaks come to think of it.


 
Posted : 03/04/2009 7:41 pm