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[Closed] Is my road stem breaking roadie fashion rules?

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I have Time carbon ATACs when I winterise [?] a bike, It allows me to use my Shimano Winter boots


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 2:36 pm
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compliant with what?


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 2:37 pm
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Rule #34 // Mountain bike shoes and pedals have their place.
On a mountain bike.

I don't think SPDs are really mtb specific pedals though. That rule is more referring to flat pedals and mtb shoes such as 5:10s.

Wouldn't say there's anything wrong with these..

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/specialized/bg-s-works-mtb-shoe-ec025559?utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=froogle


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 2:41 pm
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compliant with what?

The rules. Haven't you read the thread?


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 2:45 pm
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I actually really liked the Dura Ace ones, a friend liked them so much he bought about 4 sets when they discontinued them, last time I talked to him he was still on the originals, 13 years on!

That Hotta is 15 years old, and the DA pedals have been on it from new - still spinning sweetly. Though to be fair it doesn't do much mileage and gets looked after (still on original cassette and 2nd chain IIRC). I had a set of Ultegras on the previous road bike, but wore them out - though they weren't anywhere near so well built as the DA ones. I was wishing I'd stocked up on DA ones until I discovered the Xpedos (not the same quality, but more bling).


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 2:48 pm
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Mmm, I've still got a set of the Xpedo Mountain Force ti/ti MTB pedals in the spares box, developed horrendous play, but didn't weigh a lot and worked well - for a while!

I don't think SPDs are really mtb specific pedals though. That rule is more referring to flat pedals and mtb shoes such as 5:10s.

You're wrong, the only acceptable SPD pedals are those like aracer uses, a proper road pedal, just with a smaller cleat. Stop trying to defend yourself.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 2:55 pm
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Mmm, I've still got a set of the Xpedo Mountain Force ti/ti MTB pedals in the spares box, developed horrendous play, but didn't weigh a lot and worked well - for a while!

Yeah I had some of those with the same result. Wouldn't buy more for off-road use, and it did make me think twice about these - the bearings and seals are the same. But so far so good - just keep them clean and don't use them in the mud.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 3:12 pm
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Reading rules makes no difference to how I make choices..
blindly following rules is for folk like njee and al. I prefer reasoned assesment


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 4:00 pm
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I run 40mm of spacers post bikefit and it improved so many things (I could achieve it with an angled stem)

Also check out how Floyd Landis' old bike

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I'd rather be comfy than satisfy a group of 40 year old strangers on an MTB forum.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 4:05 pm
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Also check out how Floyd Landis' old bike

He must have been on drugs to turn up to a race with a stem like that!


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 4:07 pm
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You're wrong, the only acceptable SPD pedals are those like aracer uses, a proper road pedal, just with a smaller cleat. Stop trying to defend yourself.

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Nah spds are alright, they're pretty cool.

He must have been on drugs to turn up to a race with a stem like that!

That's nothing, check out Vladimir Karpets' TT bike (brace yourself)

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Posted : 09/07/2012 4:08 pm
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OP - have you got a picture of your bike?


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 4:12 pm
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I prefer reasoned assesment

Because reasoned assessment yields DX SPDs as the most appropriate pedals for road use 🙄

You'd be really popular in a crit, pedal strikes ahoy!

That and, well, you're you.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 4:14 pm
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For [b]My[/b] road use, yes!

Baaaaaaaaaa... njee


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 4:19 pm
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OP - have you got a picture of your bike?

I'll put one up tonight


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 4:25 pm
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so i take it wearing a camelbak is out of question then???

ps also stem flipped up and has been agreed that is correct for me when i had a bike fit done


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 6:30 pm
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I am some other in the club I ride in use SPD's on our winter/grubby wheather bikes. I use then all year round as my winter/grubby weather bike is my year round bike.

Ignore "road fashion rules" most roadie's don't care anyway neither do the members of the decents clubs. Really if it works for you use it.

I have a pair of road pedals on the nie bike for TT in the dry and I hate walking in them. Last Thursday when getting ready for that evening's TT I nearly broke my neck with the those bloody shoe's.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 6:49 pm
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I've got a 53cm road bike with a 120mm 5 degree upward rise stem and about 1cm of spacers under it!

I win/lose.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 6:56 pm
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Reading rules makes no difference to how I make choices..
blindly following rules is for folk like njee and al

A reference to me?


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 7:00 pm
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Don't recall where I said I follow them either! I said they're tongue in cheek, but a good way not to look like a tool (to paraphrase). No reason that should bother you, I contravene them in several ways. There are several purely aesthetic things I agree with though, glasses outside helmet straps for example.

Nah spds are alright, they're pretty cool.

No they're not. And it's against the rules. Again, you're wrong.

See what a moron people think you are with the stem slamming now?

And there are undeniable performance advantages to road bikes, for all, unlike a slammed stem!


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 7:33 pm
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Don't recall where I said I follow them either! I said they're tongue in cheek, but a good way not to look like a tool (to paraphrase)

Well, make your mind up.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 7:40 pm
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What's wrong with that? They're a good way not to look like a tool, but I certainly don't religiously follow them! ie, I look like a tool!

Certainly wouldn't compromise anything to follow them, I'll leave that for RealMan 🙂


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 7:42 pm
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why has no one mentioned that no stem should be less than 130mm. Even if you ride a 48cm bike...


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 7:44 pm
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Why would not following them 'make you look like a tool'?

And as you don't follow them, why would you care?


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 7:47 pm
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a sloped or rising angled stem was always referred to as "up bank" .....need to be said with yorkshire accent!


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 7:48 pm
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a sloped or rising angled stem was always referred to as "up bank" .....need to be said with yorkshire accent!


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 7:48 pm
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Let's face it, 'The Rules' have been adopted as gospel by the exact same sad, judgemental,self-deluded, imaginagion free, pro cyclist wannabees and try hards that they set out to satirise.

They now exist primarily as way for the closed minded to bond and identify each other. 😀


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 7:57 pm
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The OP clearly doesn't understand the need for suffering for the art. Get it slammed and embrace the pain.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 7:59 pm
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Hmm, so my (steel) road bike set up with an 11-32 cassette, long cage XT rapid-rise mech, bar-end shifters, PD-M647 pedals and On-One Midge's might be pushing it a bit then?

At least it's a 0º stem ...

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Posted : 09/07/2012 7:59 pm
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Why would not following them 'make you look like a tool'?

And as you don't follow them, why would you care?

Oh FFS! They offer a comedic self-deprecating view of cycling. I worry about anyone who thinks otherwise. However, a lot of the things in there I personally think do look pretty daft on the road, either aesthetically:

- mis-matched team kit
- glasses inside helmet straps

Or performance wise:

- peaks
- Camelbaks etc

There are plenty that are stupid (but clearly tongue in cheek):

- (>130mm) slammed stem
- saddle back

But as said, anyone who actually takes them [i]seriously [/i]is an oaf!

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Let's face it, 'The Rules' have been adopted as gospel by the exact same sad, judgemental,self-deluded, imaginagion free, pro cyclist wannabees and try hards that they set out to satirise.

Spot on.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 7:59 pm
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a peak impairs performance?


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 8:01 pm
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Personally I find they get in the way as you have to crane your neck to look out from under it, so it's less comfortable than riding without one. Particularly on the drops. YMMV.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 8:04 pm
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MM does indeed V!


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 8:05 pm
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Particularly on the drops

drops are just there for looks, well that's what a lot of people with road bikes think they are there for because they rarely reach down that far. 🙄


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 8:29 pm
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I ride my road bike with SPD's and MTB shoes - No point in wasting money on 2 pairs of shoes

My stem has 15mm of spacers and almost flat but If its comfortable then who cares

I ride with a camel bac - I get through 2 litres of water in 3 hours (not diebetic but its just me)

I have a peak on my lid - I find it ok so no point in removing it.

The point is if it feels right then its right for you. I dont moan at other MTBers if they dont wear baggy clothes with a peaked helmet and a camelbac.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 8:31 pm
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OP you need to slam that stem and give me a hard stare as we pass. Then stop and take lovely little piccys of your bike mid ride. Oh the ironing.

FTR I've got 20mm of spacers on my race bike as it means I can stay in the drops the whole race. And 5mm on my training bike.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 8:48 pm
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[url= https://picasaweb.google.com/feenster67/GenesisEquilibrium?authkey=Gv1sRgCLyXncO007TkHg#5763280042101742066 ]Here's[/url] my bike then, post bike fit. See how many rule breaks you can spot?

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Posted : 09/07/2012 10:15 pm
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those wheels will never cope with Torridon this weekend. you do remember don't you? 😉


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 10:19 pm
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white stuff on a bike is the first broken rule 😉


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 10:21 pm
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And that top tube mounted bottle looks a bit odd.


 
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And that top tube mounted bottle looks a bit odd.

That looks cool, no more piss stops.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 10:25 pm
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those wheels will never cope with Torridon this weekend. you do remember don't you?

You didn't specify it would be mountain biking....


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 10:30 pm
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No they're not. And it's against the rules. Again, you're wrong.

I used to make fun of SPDs, but they're actually good man, better cadence.

Here's my bike then, post bike fit. See how many rule breaks you can spot?

White bar tape is so pro.

Here's some mad examples, just because.

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(Forget the slam - look at that gear!)

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That drop could kill a man.

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She slams. Nuff said.


 
Posted : 09/07/2012 10:32 pm
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white stuff on a bike is the first broken rule

Is it? The rules don't preclude white, but they do have this to say on the topic:

Rule #8
// Saddles, bars, and tires shall be carefully matched.3

Valid options are:

Match the saddle to the bars and the tires to black; or
Match the bars to the color of the frame at the top of the head tube and the saddle to the color of the frame at the top of the seat tube and the tires to the color where they come closest to the frame; or
Match the saddle and the bars to the frame decals; or
Black, black, black

Thankfully, I would appear to be compliant with option 3


 
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