[Closed] Is it fair to kick a dog in the teeth when they try to bite you when riding?

you can kick my dog all you like.

PikeBN14

I groaned when I read the subject, then depaired when I saw who started it.

Maybe the odd stench, puts dogs off!

Bottle it, sell it as dog repellent. call it pikeBN14 stank!!!

DRAMA QUEEN!
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You really are a Prick!

I hope we meet one day, I'll introduce you to my dog.

Just looks like Kaesae is giving as good as he gets, frankly. Good on you K, STW could use a bit more entertainment now & again.

PikeBN14
You really are a Prick!

I hope we meet one day, I'll introduce you to my dog.

No thanks you can keep your GF to yourself.

As for wanting to meet a prick, you gegging on it?

Not sure you're my type!

You could always buy a D1ld0?

Has anyone else had any hassle from dogs since this thread was abandoned ?

I still think kicking them under the right cicumstances in warranted!

I still think resurrecting your own long-dead threads is more than a bit insecure.

Tried to expalin that violence was wrong but the dog did not appear to respond to my philosphical warblings. It bit me, I kicked it, it ran off.

I'd say yes it was was proper going for you...but once I'd sorted the dog I'd go do the same to the owner as it is clearly not trained properly.

In all my years of biking I've only ever had 6 dog interface experiences - and each time I've bricked myself and just gone that big bit faster to get away...

(which clearly shows my first para is all mouth no action!)

+1 Jimmy

If you kicked one of my pups in the teeth you'd be losing a few of your own......

Ohh is so ok for a dog to bite someone is it?
I bet if your dog chew half of a kid face you would still think the kid deserve it. Be glad rules of courtesy and politeness forbid me to tell you what I think of you and your behaviour.

If the dog hadn't bitten anyone and it was a pre-meditated kick in the teeth then you should expect a shoeing.

A dog either bites you or it doesn't. If a dog wants to bite you it will, most just warn you off or are protecting their owners. Granted these should be on a lead. If somebody assumed that my dog is going to bite them and gives them a kick first then I'm afraid they are going to have to Vaseline their frame so they can remove it in Casualty. As a Dog owner and MTB'er I always give dog's right of way and stop if I have to. That also includes Horse riders and walkers. I've never had a problem on a trail with anyone other than a fellow MTB'er who assumed that it was his own personal race track and as he came full chat round a blind bend that I shouldn't of been in his way. I was slowing and on the left and he'd ran wide coming the other way. The trail runs both ways by the way.

I still think resurrecting your own long-dead threads is more than a bit insecure.

Whereas I think commenting on such a thing is even more insecure, but there you go.... 🙄

Little dog run up to me recently, barking at me quite 'agressively', with it's owner trying to call it to heel. I just stopped and barked back at it. Stopped it in it's tracks. It ran off back to it's owner who was peeing themselves laughing. 😀

I'd say making comments about what posts are the most insecure is insecure too 😉

Before anyone asks, I am insecure too.

TooTall beg to differ, this topic is as relevant to day to day riding today as it was back then.

We are discussing kicking dogs that trying to bite you, not stiff or investigate or play with, but bite.

If it shows it's hackles and it's teeth are bared and it goes for me, it will get kicked and hard.

I like dogs, I also like cats and other creatures, that said I have zero tolerance for anything that poses a threat to me, self preservation will always be my primary concern. Anyone doesn't like that, prepare for WAR!!! Wooo Wooo Wooo Woooooo!!!

kaesae if you didn't exist, someone would have to invent you.

I'd say making comments about what posts are the most insecure is insecure too

😀

Before anyone asks, I am insecure too.

Oh. 😐

kaesae if you didn't exist, someone would have to invent you.

Kaesae's cool. Open and honest, sez what he thinks. Eeze PROPER.

I seem to attract daft dogs while out riding they usually just try to dive under my front wheel, or run along side barking till they get board or I speed up to a point were they can't keep up. A stafy cross came at me a few days ago I had seen him coming and un-clipped with the intention of pushing him out of the way with my foot as I lifted my foot he jumped up and bit the peddle I had just lifted my foot from he yelped and ran off never saw an owner but when I stopped there was a fair bit of blood on my shoe and up the back of my calf so I guess it lost a few teeth.

Kaesae - it's poor form to play the rotation system with your trolling. You need some new material, that's just basic troll manners.

I appreciate you're dumber than a bag of bearings, but still - put your back in to it eh?

I've always been a firm believer in fighting fire with fire, which is why I always carry at least one dog with me on my bike when I'm out riding...sometimes two if I expect to encounter a multiple-dog attack scenario.

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Oh, and if I see a dog [b]on[/b] a bike coming for me, then one of my canine protection officers splits off from the group and takes them down before any perceived threat can become a reality.

The other day, I came across a particularly nasty piece of work when cycling through the industrial estate near to my house -

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He got taken down with maximum force.

PS. Yes that is an industrial estate...don't let the houses and shop fronts make you think otherwise.

PPS. The dog's bike had hope hubs (sprayed matt silver) so I heard him coming with plenty of time and injuries were avoided...however, he didn't give me a ping-ping on his bell when approaching and had I been a rambler, this situation may have got even nastier.

Garry_Lager, what you drinking?

It would depend on the size I reckon! I had a rather large German Shepherd jump over its gate and chase me, trying to bite my calfs a few months ago. Needless to say, I peddled like crazy. Fortunately we passed a race refreshment stop that had an array of flapjacks on display, which diverted the dogs attention allowing our escape 😆

On a slightly different note, I got attacked by an out of control horse a while back. I was on a charity road ride (Inverness-Portsmouth), cycling in a group down a country lane. A horse+owner were in a driveway, well off the road. As we came passed it freakin charge at us, rider couldnt control it. We sprinted, I was near back and as it reared at us, I was forced off road into gravel. Front wheel slipped and I went down, still clipped in! I thought I was going to get crushed 😯 Scarred the bejesus out of me+bent my saddle 😥

I've had an incident on Cannock Chase before where a dog came snarling up to me, teeth bared.
The owner simply stated that he doesn't like bikes and often does this, in a very matter of fact way. I would think that the laws regarding dogs on leads also apply to somewhere like the Chase and not just the street.
Which amazes me that people like this don't act more responsibly and keep their dogs (which they obviously can't control as it ignored his command)on leads, especially when knowing it's a 'problem dog'.

I really don't mind people taking dogs off leads as long as they are not hostile in any way.

I didn't try to kick out but feel we should be entitled to defend ourselves no matter what some over emotional owner might say.

From the PNLD

Q33: There is a dog that lives down the street and the owner has let it out without a lead and it has bitten me, what can I do?

You can report the incident to your local police. There is an offence of having a dog dangerously out of control in a public place. The dog owner (or the person for the time being in charge of the dog) may be prosecuted and could face imprisonment and/or a fine and the courts can make a variety of orders in relation to the dog, which range from muzzling to destruction.

If I ever get bitten I will do everything in my power to teach the owner a lesson by having the dog destroyed.

Either keep your dogs on leads or MAKE SURE you know they are not a threat generally speaking before doing so, take some responsibly, thread closed.

superfli, horses charging and trying to stamp you? not good.

One of those OMG, WTF AARRGGGHHHH!!! moments.

The thing that really get's me is the smarmy look that a lot of the dog owners give you, they know what the dog is like and figure you're fair game.

Then a swift kick and a yelp later, all of a sudden you're the one in the wrong.

If the dog is lunging forward, it's hackles are up and it's teeth a bared, just give it a good kick! in the teeth of the throat, make sure it and the owner get the message, too many riders are getting bitten and nothing is getting done about it.

To answer the OP: if you really think its going to bite then swing away. Then have a moan at its stupid owner.

Cats can so be trained. But only to do things they want to do...

Had a couple of dogs running at us growling showing teeth etc in Spain out on road bikes past a big commercial greenhouse. Kick them ??? Are you insane - we sprinted like Cipollini. They were catching us too, but then somebody came by in a car and drove at them which was lucky as I was in about zone 54 by then.

So no, don't kick them, go home and get the car.

Did the dog have a bottle or does it know karate?

Is it fair to kick a dog in the teeth when they try to bite you when riding?

Only if you intend to eat it afterwards

Teapot - Member

Did the dog have a bottle or does it know karate?

Or just a [b]bottle[/b] of Hai [b]Karate[/b]?
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Re OP, why not just dismount and not appear threatening to the dog. works for me, I never have problems.

Yep it's totally ok to kick it, or hit it with a stick or bash it with a brick, a German Shepherd has a bite force of around 240lbs psi, try getting bitten and then see how your attitude changes.
For me its a case of defend myself from the land-shark 1st, worry about the owner 2nd and the dogs health 3rd.
My scorecard is currently Dog 0 - Me 1 and thats the way I'd like it to stay.

Funny how dog owners on here appears to be plonkers of all sorts. I bet they like their ****ing dog more then children.
You dog run at me barking or teeth bare I don't care how much you love it. I'll get a shoeing. I am not going to let me bitten by a dog because owner cant keep it on a lead.

you need to do whatever it takes to stop a dog biting you whilst on a ride! if you buzz its face with a fast spinning back tyre it normaly works. at the end of the day its up to the dog owner to control thier dog.