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C'mon guys! Admit it ... you love helping out and demonstrating your mechanical skills 😀
cinnamon_girl - MemberOooh a difficult one Bunnyhop! I had a bit of trouble last week on the trail but basically a very nice man stopped and asked if he could help. So cue fluttering eyelashes "yes please".
My mantra is that I may ride bikes but still like to be treated as a woman
I so hope you are joking! You mean as a weak and feeble little girl? You cannot have your cake and eat it. Behave like that if I had stopped and I would have left you to it
C'mon guys! Admit it ... you love helping out and demonstrating your mechanical skills
Nope, not really. Don't get me wrong I'll gladly help out anyone who needs it but it's got naff all to do with anyone's gender.
Damn right i like helping out a damsel, be it with a puncture or a stubborn jar lid.
TJ - I did attempt myself to find out what the problem was, removed the back wheel, checked brake pads, looked at cables.
Yes, I am weak and feeble but avoid cake. At my age the fluttering of eyelashes really doesn't wash 😀
I was doing my ironing up at Lee Quarry the other day and a group of women rode past. Not one offered to help. It's a two way street ladies.....
LOL @ lev.
Cinnamon girl - Accepting help or needing help is fine. Fluttering eyelashes is offensive
I like helping anyone out, no matter who they are, but if you include the opportunity for a bit of banter at the same time, even better. 😀
TJ - I was joking! Those who know me will find my comment amusing 🙂
T'was funny at the end of the ride, as a lost male driver asked us for directions. Felt good 'cos we all knew where he need to go.
Bunnyhop, nothing unusual there. I've been told where to go by a lady many times...
c_g- we live up North, fluttering your eye lashes just gets you a load of stick, however I know where you're coming from.
Kramer-yes lets organise something soon, maybe when the trails dry out. We have a spare bed, and running water, oooh and electrickery, up here, so you're welcome to stay over.
T'was funny at the end of the ride, as a lost male driver asked us for directions. Felt good 'cos we all knew where he need to go.
Now we know this post is a troll.......
a man NEVER asks for directions!!!!
dirtbiker-100_ I know you too.
eek really?
Drillski - MemberT'was funny at the end of the ride, as a lost male driver asked us for directions. Felt good 'cos we all knew where he need to go.
Now we know this post is a troll.......
a man NEVER asks for directions!!!!
... unless, in a momentary lapse of concentration, you have entrusted the road map to a woman without turning it the right way up first....
cinnamon_girl - MemberTJ - I was joking! Those who know me will find my comment amusing
Sowwy then - I am a seriously grumpy ol hector today
I'd fully expect and deserve a smack in the gob if I asked a female mountain biker if she needed help changing a tyre. Sorry, but really.
Bunnyhop, it's a date. Your other half is bothering me on facebook, so I've sent him details.
Of course i bl00dy would....however that's because i'd of been on the bushes waiting for them...20 metres from were i'd deployed the police stinger..
But seriously, always have and always will, some take offence at the offer as they don't want to appear inadequate (men and women) with women i'd rather talk them through a technique as not all tyres are that difficult to remove.
Manners cost nothing.
BTW, Note how RD will only help people on the side of the ROAD...... 😉
Maybe they were scared off by all your swearing 😉
They'd be thinking-'Seems a rough lot that,dont think i'll stop'
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If I see people at the side of the trail - one person or a group - I'll always slow and ask if they're ok. Never been in a situation where I've had to hand out bits, but a couple of weeks back I did rebuild a crankset that someone had dismantled to free a stuck chain, then directed them to a couple of suitable nearby hostelries where they could await a train home
Yep, every time I've ridden past an individual or a group that look like they've got a mechanical, I just ask if they've got everything they need. That way, I'm not assuming they can't do something, but it gives them an opener to ask. I don't normally stop unless they do need assistance but i do slow down. And that's for guys or girls in trouble.
I Always ask if everything is OK. Mind you, it would be best for most people to turn down my inept offerings.
The worst was in the car park at CyB. A couple of older gents were packing up their bikes having only just got them out. I asked what was wrong and they said that a chain had snapped. I didnt have any powerlinks but offered to rejoin the chain for them. So I took the chain off the bike, joined it back together and handed it back to them.
Totally forgot that it wasn't on the bike. They gave me a very odd look as I handed a joined chain to them saying "no need to thank me lads, have a good ride".
I always slow and ask if the people on the side of the trail have got everything they need. Gender doesn't really come into it.
Like Druidh says, Chivalry and Equality? You're taking the piss.
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Like Druidh says, Chivalry and Equality? You're taking the piss.
1) Chivalry means treating people with a sense of honour and fairness. Gender has nothing to do with it
2) who says all women want equality? most women I know simply don't want to be patronised. Your comment, and that of Druidh, could possibly be a tad patronising?
Well I always ask if I can help. However if the person I help is a charming lady with a genuine smile it's always a bonus...
But I 'll help a STW big fat bloke with almost the same enthusiasm.
most women I know simply don't want to be patronised
If there are 4 women trying to fix a bike is it not patronising to offer help as that surely implies that they are helpless creatures in need of a man to "save" them?
As I said before I'll gladly give help when needed but if there are four people standing round a bike I'm going to assume that they can sort out any problems themselves and if they can't then they need to ask for help.
Fair comment on point 1 nbt, although chivalry in the 'chivalric code' sense is almost entirely used these days to describe courteous behaviour of men towards women.
On point 2, I don't pretend to know what women want. Perhaps suggesting that you do may also be a tad patronising too?
Most of the time it seems that women want everything! 😕
lol @ lowey!!!
I will always stop and ask if everything's ok and they need a hand. And then hope they say no cos the likelihood of me being able to fix anything is slim to none 😆
If there are 4 women trying to fix a bike is it not patronising to offer help as that surely implies that they are helpless creatures in need of a man to "save" them?
if there were 4 blokes would you breeze past? As I said, I'll always ask if the person / group is ok, irrepsective of gender
On point 2, I don't pretend to know what women want. Perhaps suggesting that you do may also be a tad patronising too?
I don;t know what *all* women want, if I did I'd be a bloody rich man!
It does remind me of the time Mrs NBT nearly weed laughing, telling me how on her ride she'd passed a bloke with t bike upside down - she'd stopped to offer help, then qualified said offer with "of course, I haven;t got the foggiest about how to fix anything so I don;t know why I'm offering". Still, it's the thought that counts anyway eh?
TLH. Are you mixing us up with BM.
I said anyone, not just men. Tonights ride just ended up all women.
Also I do believe any man would have struggled too with the tyre. We're all experienced riders and this was a first.
No its definately the threads off here. BM doesnt have many women posters tbh. Not saying you in particular, but if a woman posted on this site wanting route advice and a riding buddie for a lakes ride, i would be running for the hills in case i said the wrong thing. Granted men dont help themselves sometimes, but i think the balance has swung too far the other way and women are alienating themselves away from just being frineds with blokes due to their stand off nature.
I know this prob doesnt apply to you but in general its the way i see things whenever ladies post on this site.
IanMunro - MemberI think if i saw 4 people i'd assume there was enough comptence in the group to sort the problem out.
TheLittlestHobo - I have to disagree!
if there were 4 blokes would you breeze past? As I said, I'll always ask if the person / group is ok, irrepsective of gender
Yes I'd just ride past unless they asked for help. A single person on the other hand I would offer help.
I know this prob doesnt apply to you but in general its the way i see things whenever ladies post on this site.
really? that's sad. I would hope not to be seen any differently from the blokes that post on here really.
Why did it double post
[i]TheLittlestHobo - I have to disagree! [/i]
Ok then, i will change my mind 🙂
I am talking about my own feelings, how can you dissagree? Anyhow, i would have stopped and offered to help because i always ask in those situations. My Alien RX has a metal tyre lever which is very handy for such jobs.
Anyone with a mechanical - male or female, group or solo I will ask if they need help. Just slow down and shout - " are you ok?" or "got everything you need?"
Well that will teach bunnyhop/bunnyhop's friend 😀 Next time she wont buy DT rims 😉
Well that will teach bunnyhop/bunnyhop's friend Next time she wont buy DT rims
you mean you passed the on the ride, clocked the make of rim, and [b][i]still[/i][/b] ldidn;t stop to offer help? bleeding chauvinist french, eh? 😆
I'd have stopped.
It would probably have made things worse, but I'd have stopped.
i bet juan would have stopped if they were mavics 😉
Christ on a broken down bike! You people do seem to make your lives difficult for yourselves. Do you do hill reps as you ascend the elavations of political correctness and moral high ground each morning?
If this is indeed the age of equality, it shouldn't make a blind bit of difference if it was 4 women, 4 men, 2 woman-1 man and 1 who couldn't be easliy distinguished ad.lib et.al etc.
A person(s) by the side of the track or road with a non working bicycle (I would hope) would be offered a hand or use of a telephone or what ever regardless of gender.
If it had been myself going past [b]this[/b] particular group of ladies, I'd have pedalled harder while loudly humming the theme tune from the Charge of the Light Brigade. Mad as a box of frogs they is. Mad!
I always ask people if they are okay - even though most of the time I'd not be able to help, as my mechanical skills are useless, but I ask anyway. Like Sharki said, manners cost nothing. I think everyone should check, regardless of gender. A few weeks ago I was out and punctured. I was passed by 3 female mtb'ers and a bloke. The females completely ignored me, but the chap asked if I had everything I needed.
I was thinking about this at the weekend - I stopped on a descent and held a gate open for a chap, who ride through without so much as a thank you. Further on down the trail, there was another gate - I wasn't that far behind him, but he just shut the gate and rode off. Ggggrrr. I've come across other incidents - like men/women letting the blokes i'm riding with pass, but not me, even though i'm going faster than them/keeping up with the blokes i'm riding with. I see no reason for it, other than i'm female and they don't want to be passed by a woman.