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anyone know any good apps for following routes when on the bike...
ive found routebuddy atlas, roadtour outdoors gb national parks, motion x and trailguru. anyone used any of these? or am i missing a better one.
im not to bothered about recording routes more about knowing my location on maps and following trails.
Trails or Motion X are the best Ive tried
memory map is great,if you have got the maps
Motion X for me.
memory maps seem to cost a lot which is a bit off putting.
theres a few for motion x there, does that work without cell coverage and is it relatively good on battery, i have a iphone 3gs apparently? i know not of the ways of the smartphone. also does motiox work out a lot cheaper. cheers
Using Everytrail which is excellent, can use it to upload GPX/Tracklog/memory map etc files and then use GB Outdoors (got it half price ~£13 with all National Parks 1:50) to import the route on the phone, shows the route & my position making route finding easy.
Usually keep the phone in my pocket or bag, toying with the idea of bar mounting it with a Dahon BioLogic, but a little nervous about doing that and more so since the wife dropped her iphone and smashed the glass!
May just bite the bullet and get a Garmin Dakota or Oregon as they are made for the job.
I use the same two apps as smeg and they work pretty well for me. The GB National park app is great, it stores all the maps on the phone and doesn't need cell reception. Its a bit of a faff to have to use another app to track rides then upload and re download your routes, but it works.
Memory maps new app looks promising but you need to pay extra for the OS maps.
I keep the phone in an otterbox defender case which is tough as hell and pretty much splash proofs the phone. If its wet out I put the whole lot in a little dry bag.
Don't know much about the software, but like bloodyshins i also keep my iphone in an Otterbox defender case. Superb bit of kit!!!
A dry bag for the wet days is also the way forward
I use routebuddy - £20 to download each OS 1:25,000 Explorer map
+1 for MotionX
It is pretty powerful if you can work out how to use it properly. The OpenMaps are amazingly detailed too.
as far as mounts go..
I created one for free
Ingredients:
•Free silicone case thing from Telefonica
•Toeclip strap
•Lump of BlackTak
(plastic bag if rain is forecast)
It has survived a 1000m descent on some of the roughest trails known to man.
Thanks, I'm looking into everytrail, trails and motion x. And i'm all for the do it yourself mount. That looks like a pretty secure piece of kit although if it fails you only have yourself to blame ha. I'm actually typing this from my iPhone which is a first.
Although looking At all of these they seem to be based on tracking a route where I am more interested in nAvigation. If someone could tell me which is the best for that, greatly appreciated. Also one that will work without cell coverage and having to buy Additional maps
If you're after something to actually navigate you, you will Need some kind of signal whether it be in the strongest form such as 3g or going lower into edge. Same as car sat nav it will need some signal to determine your location. This is (depending on where you are) where the Iphone can let you down. If you want true navigation out in the wilds then a dedicated outdoor gps system would fair much better.
Wrightyson. I don't think that's right. It's the gps that determines your position and the cell network that pulls down the maps (with the google maps app). So if you have an app with the maps stored, you should be fine.
I use trailguru to record rides and runs. Works pretty well. I'd be happier with a dedicated gpsi think.
wrightyson is wrongyson - MotionX has the facility to download maps to the phone if you know you're going to be in a no-signal zone. The GPS will work with no cellular signal at all. The phone also has two other ways to determine location; Cellular triangulation and Wi-Fi triangulation, both of which work on the 1st gen iPhone. The 3G has the GPS receiver in it* and the 3GS has all plus a digital compass, so it can tell your heading without any input from the GPS.
The weak link in the iPhone's outdoor GPS is it's battery. If you are using the GPS for navigation whilst downloading maps on the fly it'll kill the battery in a couple of hours. I carry a 3500mWh battery pack.
*GPS' in phones are prevalent because of pressure from the US government that set targets for the percentage of phones it wanted with GPS built in, penalising manufacturers that didn't - For the public good? You decide.
IME where I ride using everytrail it is innacurate, the gps cannot be relied upon to actually navigate as it is not accurate enough in the I phone. That was the point I was expressing. Had several instances where it can only give a location to within 2500m, that is not useful. Also on a recent route I tracked it placed over the "other side" of th a6 which meant I'd swam the derwent!
