All day bike on off road guards rack decent clearances one bike to rule all
Kinesis tripster atr. Genesis Croix De Fer 2015 stainless. Shand stoater 105
What and why trip and cdf same price shand a bit over budget really but lovely
You could also have a look at..
Sabbath September AR1 and the Van Nicholas Amazon..
But im biased and will say a Tripster
Test ride.
Then decide.
have a go
then you'll know
buy online
save some time
Nice 😉
(I'm not even considering a shand until he makes one called the "handy")
The Tripster, the Tripster
Just dont be a hipster
Have a stroke
At Bespoked
it's the ' lovely' bit that wins. I'm sure there are other bikes that are cheaper or lighter but sometimes you just want something because it is lovely.shand a bit over budget really but lovely
And before you pick it
I'll give you a ticket
(I work for Bespoked show)
Don't buy bling
'til you've bleached your ring
If you want a rumble
Deny this man his crumble
What have you just stood in?
Is it a child's puddin'?
Won't somebody come here to share
their thoughts on a new croix de fer ?
sure, kinesis is grand
and we'd all like a Shand
but it still doesn't seem all that fair
(ah bollox, he has a tripster - edited) 🙁
Id love the rohloff shand leffeboy but its a huge save away. The shand 105 can be swapped to rohloff later but the the cdf in stainless is nice and tripster is too. I almost clicked buy on tripster other day... doh....
Wife says wait a year then get rohloff shand and usb dynamo. Hard to argue with but then every time i come on here i see a huge ad for tripster and the idea of stainless tubes interests too aaaahhhhh.....
wife says delay ?
you'd better obey
Capt flash all this sillyness is your fault 🙂
If he's not been good
nanny won't give him pud 😀
The Tripster is wide,
The Tripster is light,
The Tripster will have you smiling allright
me too but only after the 105 version as I like the simplicity of regular gears. I've had mine for over a year now and it still gives me huge pleasure to ride it each day and a lot of that is because it just looks 'right'. Might have to wait until next significant birthday to think about a rohloff version but I'm still put off by the shiftersId love the rohloff shand leffeboy
You can get thumbshifters for the Rohloff - I've used the Cinq5 shifters on several builds. They work very well - though they are £250...
I don't think that the stainless cdf is supposed to be any comfier than the 725 cdf, and I don't think the tyre clearances are any better.
The tripster is comfier than the 725 cdf, and a couple of lbs lighter, so It would be better for all day rides.
Plus the tripster can take 40c tyres under mudguards, and mine with 40c wtb nanos is excellent, went for a 40 mile ride on Saturday even though I am in the midst of a heavy cold.
Do I think your choice is between the tripster, and the shand, and maybe that other titanium one that has been mentioned.
shand
I doubt there's a finer bike in the land,
than a custom built stoater from Shand.
I note that a lot of the comfort of my tripster, and the cdf before, came from the titanium seatpost and selle flite gel flow saddle...
And another load comes form the big tyres, so if the shand takes a skinny seatpost and has decently fat tyre capability then the difference over the tripster might only be a bit of weight.
I think (sure) im decided on a shand tbh they look beautiful and it ticks all the boxes of what im after where as the others have certain bits missing from the overall thing i want and the shands only bit that lets it down slightly is its a bit more pork on it but im not too fussed on the weight its not an issue for my requirements. And i knew in advance about that as my mate has a flar bar shand rohloff with dynamo and he loves it
Now its playing with finances and deciding rohloff or 105 mmmm....
Not sure if its relevant Firestarter, but I do have a complimentary ticket for Bespoked. Shand will be there, and many others if you want to check things out...
Hi thats a very kind offer but its a long long way away. It would be quicker for me to visit shand themselves. Tbh i can't see past the shand at the min it hits every point i want im just struggling with the geometry at the min looking at it but nowt that cant be worked around. Biggest problem at the min is to rohloff or not lol
I'm wearing a Shand T shirt today if you're looking for tenuous signs! Lovely lovely frames, nice guys and the welding is really top notch.
Lol cheers all
Ordered i just need a shand tshirt throw in lol. Leffeboy what colour is yours ive asked for lichen green but ive a few weeks to confirm. Ive seen a pic of yours but cant work out what it is . Cheers
Look forward to seeing this Mick!
Me too 😉
Nice. Something from Shand is definitely on my wish list.
One day.... One day....
I'm saving up for a Shand (40th b'day treat) and my 4 year old has told me it has to be red as red bikes are faster!
Lichen green is indeed the colour of champions. I had been sold on the orange but switched to lichen green after an evening of playing with photoshop. I also went for plain white on the downtube as that seemed to bring out the green of the frame betterLeffeboy what colour is yours ive asked for lichen green
I'm jealous of the changeable dropouts on the new versions. Would love some of those
did you go Rohloff in the end?
I was looking at orange first then celeste but the lichen seems nice but ive seen some pics where it's green and some look more yellow. So its hard to tell what is and isnt lichen. Ive gone for black band with white text but with stoater written in black too like below
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but ive a few weeks to finalise. Any decent pics of yours
And yes went for rohloff as i really wanted one again and id only end up regretting not getting it from the start
The Imperial Blue looks properly lovely.
You are not wrong. I've a friend with a pipedream in what looks like the same colour and it is a great colour for a bikeThe Imperial Blue looks properly lovely.
Very nice can defo see the green tint there. Im trying to steer clear of matte or metallic as i think gloss will be easier to clean/touch up esp after having a matte finish motorbike
Think I'm going to put a Bahookie frame to the top of my 40th birthday presents suggestion list. If they sort the cables out of course 🙂
Mine is a 40th tho it will arrive around a month before my 41st
Mine was a 50th. I think we should all just send Shand our birthdays so he can send our other halves a catalogue 6 months in advance 🙂Mine is a 40th tho it will arrive around a month before my 41st
Enjoy.
Lol yeah he should. And im sure i will enjoy 😉
I have a Tripster and can honestly say that I love it. I got it on long term test but opted to buy it. Light, comfortable, sorted handling, great both on and off road - what's not to like? Made in the Far East but given my disappointing experience with a US made Litespeed frame (aluminium insert in the head tube that came away from the frame with a long wait to get a replacement only finally resolved by the UK importer dealing with things as opposed to their supplier), that is no bad thing!
Shand bikes look lovely but I know someone who got one custom and ended up with things that he didn't ask for. As a custom bike, I would expect to get what I ask for and not have to have fixes made to the frame. 😯 They look really nice but I think that I would rather have a frame made in China or Taiwan these days than by a low volume builder such as Shand. The Far East builders do a terrific job these days of building excellent frames.
No experience of Genesis so cannae comment on that.
I've got 3.5 years until my 40th, so if I allow six months in advance to order, that gives me a whole three years to persaude the missus.
Might need a time machine 🙁
Tbh its only gonna be a 6-8 week wait it just took me 10 months to decide what i wanted/talk the wife round
Tho when i suggested a new motorbike the shand got the go ahead 😉
I've been lucky enough to have had both a Tripster and a Stoater. I prefer the Stoater, and not because it fits me better. All components are the same, the Stoater feels a little more planted, stable and comfortable, even at higher speeds. And that's despite the lower BB height, longer wheel base and slacker head angle of the Tripster. I'm not saying the Tripster is unstable or uncomfortable, far from it, but the Stoater is better. But at the same time the stoater has a more engaging ride, it feels quicker and more fun to ride. Not quite sure how Steven has managed it? But I suspect it's because the front end is lower and the BB higher so I feel 'on' the Stoater, whereas I felt 'in' the Tripster. The Stoater is slightly heavier than the Tripster, but not by much and you defiantly don't feel it when riding, indeed it feels lighter due to the more spritely feel of the frame. But I suspect the extra weight in the frame adds to it's comfortable and planted feel. And, as much as I liked the look of a brushed ti frame, my Stoater is far more fun to look at on a dank spring day.
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Sounds good 😉
Sanny said :
but I know someone who got one custom and ended up with things that he didn't ask for. As a custom bike, I would expect to get what I ask for and not have to have fixes made to the frame.
???? YGM Sanny.
Shand - definitely. That lichen Rohloff Stoater ^ is lush!
The Imperial Blue looks properly lovely.
You are not wrong. I've a friend with a pipedream in what looks like the same colour and it is a great colour for a bike
Anyone got any pictures of the Imperial blue? I can see most of their other 'blues' but most interested in this one.
