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Hi there,

I'm thinking about replacing my Avid Juicy 3s as they are already around 5 years old and lately I'm just having problems with them. I never really had any other brakes only biked with another bike with juicy 7s for a couple of times. So I don't really know what kind to get.

- I don't consider myself a hard rider however the bike will be used for downhill runs in places like inners
- I weigh 61kg
- And I'm not the most confident rider yet so I do tend to use my brakes quite a bit on downhill runs
- I will be using them with 180/160 rotor
- My budget is around £150 and happy to buy second hand

Any recommendations?

Ta, Henni


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:28 pm
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shimano SLX or XT


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:29 pm
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Was going to say Hope V2's as they are utterly brilliant but I then read your budget.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:30 pm
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Second hand - hope minis can be got for that sort of money with a bit left over. I bough my hopes econdn had at £35 - £60 an end Or you could get new basic shimanos.

I would have the hopes for the repairability and as a happy owner of half a dozen sets. I would not have shimanos as no spares are available. a seal blows its scrap. Other opinions are available.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:34 pm
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Bought some formula bianco K24's on classifieds here and once I learned to set them up properly been really happy with them...loads of well balanced mod and power. As hope products, apparently rebuildable...hth


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:36 pm
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Go into some bike shops and have a feel of some of the brakes on the bikes.

I personally hate the lever feel of Shimano brakes, the levers them selves are tiny too. I like Avids (the only person in the known universe who does). Hopes are nice and Formulas. Some people rate Hayes, so worth a look maybe


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:39 pm
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Formula... Go to their factory store and pick up a set of Oros. It's an old design but still very good, and £125 gets you both brakes, plus rotors and mounts, and hose shortening kit etc. Or you could buy a used set for a fair bit less, they're cheap as chips used but I'd sooner go new personally. Also fully repairable- the parts are available through CRC.

If it said Hope on it some folks would happily pay twice as much and declare them a bargain 😉

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a seal blows its scrap.

You know fine well that's not true. It's not ideal replacing a large part- lever or more likely caliper- but that's a long way from scrapping the whole brake.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:44 pm
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i have a set of Formula rx in white i will be selling next week, being removed from new bike as soon as it arrives. E-mail in profile if your intrested.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:46 pm
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Northwinfd - ok - the part that has the blown seal is scrap. half the system


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:48 pm
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Shimano Deore, good power, great price. I've got a set that have run flawlessly for 4 years, only maintenance has been an occasional top-up with oil.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:50 pm
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Another vote for Formulas from the Formula store, got a pair of K24s with adaptors/discs/etc for about £120 before Christmas.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 10:52 pm
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That's more like it. So, for SLX, you replace the £27 lever or £32 caliper (and get a set of pads with it) rather than spending £5 for a set of seals. Not ideal but not the end of the world, considering the difference in initial bang-for-buck- with SLX you'll get a brand new brake with 2 years warranty for £150 or so, compared to an inferior, used Hope brake at that price.

Hope's warranty is excellent but there's no chance of getting new Hope at this price.


 
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God this comes up so often : "and in the blue corner is ...."

In reality the fact that out of all the manufacturers on here that get recommended time after time we have - Hope, Shimano, Formula. Avid also have their lovers - but once problems start .... (though I think a big bit of the problem is that is that they are fitted as standard to entry level bikes).

Anyway - Pick one of the 3. They are all good.

Personally I went Formula initially - but back then spares were a real pita to get (that problem seems to have disappeared now).

Then went shimano - 6 SLX in the garage just now - one caliper leaked in the first winter and that was replaced foc by Madison - 2 year warranty too. I bought a spare new caliper for £25 - not needed it yet.

I'd love to have the cash to try Hope. I dont.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:00 pm
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New Shimano SLX are superb, and you could get the Ice-Tech rotors too for that budget. No real difference between SLX and XT apart from colour and bite-point adjust, if you feel you need that.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:01 pm
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northwind - I swapped a brand new set of shimanos for a far superior used set of hopes 🙂

Value for money its hard to argue with shimano tho if you can cope with the feel and the lack of spares Hence I did say that in my original post.


 
Posted : 04/03/2012 11:33 pm
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Have you used the current Shimano models TJ? My old XTs were miles better than the Shimanos that went before and the latest SLXs are a good bit better than my XTs.

If it wasn't for the parts availability and price advantage I'd be hard pressed to choose between my Oros and a set of SLXs. But as it is, I don't know of anything that can compete until Formula run out of their old discounted stock.


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 12:06 am
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slx, one of the best bike bits ive ever bought.


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 12:12 am
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Hope, three of the best bike bits i've ever bought. Mini's, M4's & X2's.


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 12:18 am
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Formula.
I have two pairs of R1s and they are fantastic, weight, performance, reliability. Not really suitable for your application, or budget, though.
However, I like them so much that I have upgraded my other two MTBs, a set of RXs for £90 and a set of The Ones for £165, both second-hand, off German Ebay, either of these would be ideal for you, The Ones more so. ebay.de is the place to be for getting hold of good bike bits (just bought a dropper post from there too)


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 12:19 am
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New SLX or XT. I've tried maguras, formulas, hope, hayes, avid etc and the new shimano stuff is just miles better. They feel eye-wateringly lovely and are only beaten by saints or formula's 'the ones' for power (maybe hope v2s too but they're about 64kgs an end)
(I was a massive formula fanboi before I tried teh new shimanos btw)


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 12:20 am
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Pair of new XT's from rose bikes £135 delivered,no contest. 🙂


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 7:27 am
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6th+ to say second hand Formulas from classified. Fab brakes. You can get a complete set for about £75.


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 7:33 am
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I'll second that, just got my xt's from rose. Brakes, ice tec rotors, mounts and spare olives (and a free bag) for under 200 delivered..... If your not too bothered about the posh rotors, check out merlin's deals too as they are pretty good atm.
Cheers


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 7:35 am
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SLX or XT for my money, the newest ones feel great IMO.


 
Posted : 05/03/2012 7:48 am