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[Closed] ideal bike for looooooooooong distance, offroad.

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long distance offroad day rides, 40 miles upwards.
what is the ideal bike.
light short travel susser
light h/tale
29r

ideas please.


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 9:53 pm
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bike for kielder possibly?


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 9:57 pm
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It depends 😉

Pretty much every kind of bike imaginable at Kielder100 last year.


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:00 pm
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two wheels would be good...


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:00 pm
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That would have been easy...Anthem X...up until the point where you said 29er. 😕


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:01 pm
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not for kielder.............keilder is yonks away.
a whole summer of riding before kielder...........
why does everyone keep mentioning kielder........ 😉


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:02 pm
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Not popular, but I've got a Kona King - 100mm travel, scandium frame, lightish (27ishlb) and seems hard as nails. Paid £1350 new - bargain. Have upgraded forks to talas 100-140, gears to X9/X0, Hope mono minis, Deus cranks etc. Have race wheels (pro2/355) and general riding wheels with bigger tyres.
Steel hardtail is great too, but for a long day, I use the Kona.

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Posted : 16/02/2010 10:04 pm
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i have a hardtail for looooooooooooong summer rides (and kielder).

Something light and quick would be my best bet altho say a lightly built up 29er sultan would be ideal


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:05 pm
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anthem X for long rides, may want to look at the Giant XTC 1 29er, rides [i]very[/i] well... 😀


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:06 pm
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Oooh maybe a Nicolai Helius CC 😉


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:06 pm
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spark !


 
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I've not ridden this for more than 103 miles off-road in one go, but it works for me.

A prototype, rigid, steel, 29er, SS will work better though 😉


 
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FS everytime, unless it's some softy ride


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:09 pm
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Light short travel FS. Liking my Top Fuel thus far.


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:09 pm
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Fisher Superfly?


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:09 pm
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Salsa Dos Niner.

You know it makes sense.


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:12 pm
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thought about a hei hei 29r or a sultan to be honest.
both get good ratings for the clyde on mtbr.
mike, your bike is the kind of bike i rode when i was 12 delivering the papers........ 😉


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:13 pm
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I've never ridden one but I reckon a 29er would be good, maybe short-travel full sus 29er?

Otherwise lightweight full sus, but I've been fine with my Soul


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:14 pm
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*ahem*
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seems to do the trick 😀


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:18 pm
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twinklydave.......
mate, i'm a grandad, i need a bit of comfort nowadays....... 😉


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:22 pm
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Steel 2010 Kona unit 29er geared full rigid !
Just keeps on going 😉


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:28 pm
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mate, i'm a grandad, i need a bit of comfort nowadays.......

you'd be amazed just how comfy that is - laidback seat angle, Ti frame, seatpost and saddle rails = cushy


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 10:35 pm
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Going the Sultan route myself but still dream of a Rockstar 29er

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Posted : 16/02/2010 10:38 pm
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Salsa dos niner

it's got big wheels and one inch of soft-tail pivotless rear end travel. They even have gears.

Great distance bike. The travel is almost subliminal. It's there but not noticable, but you know it's there. The ride is thunder: damned fast. But also real easy on the body without The handling ever feeling remote or vague.

A truely great bike. To be dicontinued soon. Get one while you can. We have a large demo dos niner.


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:00 pm
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is the shock on the dos niner a air can type shock??


 
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Ti frame, seatpost

until they seize! (lots of copper slip ?)

the new FS supercaliber should fit the bill, (get it in large easier to sell on later 😉 )


 
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Salsa dos niner

A truely great bike. To be dicontinued soon.

😯


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:16 pm
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Discontinued. Not dicontoniued. But the salsa man said it won't be around for long.

Yeah it's a tiny air shock. Pump up one chamber to anything from zero to about fifty psi and it's sorted. Yes: some really light folk run zero psi.

I am planning some long days out on our demo dos.

We can do a very special price on the older red/yellow frame.


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:22 pm
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Any of the bikes used on the trans-provence....


 
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I like this:
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Light, comfortable and very capable of long distances over non-technical terrain.


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:23 pm
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charlie, is there a weight limit on the shock???
how can 50psi stop it bottoming??? when a 300lbs man is riding it.


 
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That's some good BS there Charlie


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:27 pm
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Turner Flux is what you really want. (or anyother 100mm full susser weighing up to 26-27 lbs of which there are many - take your pick)


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:32 pm
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I am not aware of ant weight limits on the dos. I am almost sixteen stone and run 45 psi. I think the max is something like 80. Gotta remember that some if the sus comes from the flat leaf spring stays so maybe that is why it's run at low pressure?

Cynic-al. Good BS ? It's a difficult ride to describe as it not like most sussers. It's not BS it's just creative writing. Try one and then try conveying it's ride without sounding like some rubbish tv ad for perfume. 😉


 
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Wow you can run at atmospheric pressure? Must be one tiny air chamber


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:48 pm
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The Dosniner is a really fugly bike


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:50 pm
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genius limited? light and the scott twinloc thingy 🙂


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:51 pm
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Charlie, at least you didn't resort to making up some pseudo science names "pro-NV age defying W"*K" for that extra floaty ride feel!


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:52 pm
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Moots YBB has been on my "must buy" list for a while


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:53 pm
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SC Tallboy?


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:55 pm
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Sorry, it's BS. No need for words like "Thunder" or "subliminal".

Power to your business though!


 
Posted : 16/02/2010 11:56 pm
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Subliminal: def. Below sensory threshold. You know the effects of the sus (damned fast ride) but can not detect the sus moverment itself. Yeah subliminal is the right word.

Thunder. Just being creative. It's very fast. It thunders along.

Getting pedantic: "BS" is BS. It's says nothing, adds nothing, no information, just a bland label of no value. There is no need for BS. But there is a need for descriptive writing.

Not offended. just standing up for flamboyant writing in this written
medium. 😉


 
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something with a rohloff built into an arch rim, with matching front king wheel perhaps ton?

heard on the grapevine one may be appearing on the classifides next week...

😉


 
Posted : 17/02/2010 12:43 am
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I've got a Serotta Ti 29er hardtail and a SC Tallboy.

I've been knocking out some regular 140KM+ offroad rides in training and the Tallboy really is a mile muncher. Well kilometre muncher to be more accurate. I did a 140KM loop on the Serotta just to 'feel' the difference and I was borked at the end. The Tallboy was fast, agile (mostly XT, XTR cranks and Stans ZTR hubs/rims tubeless) and just stupidly comfortable.


 
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A motorbike?

Or... Heckler - strong, light(ish) and simple.
Have done 6+ hour epics on mine in Spain and been OK for another day (and that's nothing to do with my fitness).


 
Posted : 17/02/2010 6:57 am
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think i'd go for one of the following if i could have a bike for every occassion
scott spark
trek top fuel

i can't so i bought a remedy. planning on doing the SDW in a day on it this year.

i think the most important things to consider are a good range of gears, pro pedal type suspension, lightweight wheels. if you got those then most bikes will be good for looooooong rides i reckon.


 
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If you were at Kielder last year you'll have noticed the proportinally large number of 29ers. The winner was, of course, on a 29er.

That's all you need to know. Oh, & Ti will make it a "softer" ride still further.


 
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It's very fast

that's simply and definitely incorrect.


 
Posted : 17/02/2010 8:26 am
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Ventanna. But you know that anyway :p


 
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FRC got there just before me, but second the SC Tallboy. It is allegedly the absolute dogs - just the right combination of SC and 29er
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long distance offroad day rides, 40 miles upwards.

40 miles? Just a normal day out and any bike will do.

Myself - a hardtail 'cos thats all I got More efficient?. Plenty of 40+ mile days on a hardtail without troubles


 
Posted : 17/02/2010 10:16 am
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GF Superfly or a Scandal if you're feeling less flush.


 
Posted : 17/02/2010 10:33 am
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TJ Aren't most of your 40-miler's almost 50% on-road?


 
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Off road but smooth 50% for the frequent rides but not only those routes. Real MTBing 40 miles as well.

I just don't see 40 miles as a loooooooooooooooooooooong ride.


 
Posted : 17/02/2010 10:42 am
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If you were at Kielder last year you'll have noticed the proportinally large number of 29ers. The winner was, of course, on a 29er.

That's all you need to know.

Lots of 29ers in the Great Divide Race and Tour Divide too.


 
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For comfort without the cost you could go for a hei hei - nice short travel all round cross country bike. 29er's are great - well worth a look for comfort and I'll get one when I can afford it . . . . 🙂


 
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Rode the Bucks 121 (off-road) last year on my Ti456. Furthest I'd been in one go. Great bike for it, but I felt I was at the outer limit of my rear-end comfort.


 
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Giant Anthem been pretty good on everykind of terrain. Feels pretty much like a hardtail a lot of the time without the hard. Dont hear many, if any, riders who dont rave about theirs.


 
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Its probably not bling enough for this thread but I find my XL commencal 4.2 a very comfy bike all day.

That said it will be a hardtail for the Keilder but I am just planning to finish that, probably in considerable dollops of agony, but finish.


 
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Just read the comment about Kielder, Neil who won now rides a Scott spark.
and he would have won it regardless of being on a 29er.

for a long day in the saddle, concentrate more on yourself than the bike.
you have to build up to riding long days out.
so it wont matter what bike you have.


 
Posted : 17/02/2010 7:59 pm
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Ton, The Dos niner might not be a bad bet - I'm not that much smaller than you and mine survives fine (I bought your inbred off you if you remeber). I think you'd probably need an XL rather than a large which is what I have. You can pump the shock up so its basically locked out or anywhere down to 0psi.
I tend to run the shock quite hard and the rear tyre soft (tubless which works quite well) for longer rides


 
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Sultan for me....or maybe a Tallboy....but probably a Sultan, DW Links are ace.


 
Posted : 17/02/2010 9:05 pm
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Single speed rigid 29er.

You said loooooong, so consider a bike with the minimum of things to break, adjust, or inflate. It's also lighter which is good when you go over 50 miles.

But an Anthem would be nice too 🙂


 
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Word has it that there will be an Anthem 29er appearing soon....


 
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Word has it that there will be an Anthem 29er appearing soon....

I hope not.

That might weaken my resolve somewhat 🙂


 
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