...the lightweight one. Ti frame, 2012 XT 2 x 10, Carbon post, American classics with Ron/Ralph and Sid....
25.76lb 🙁
It was electronic bathroom scales so I reckon there could be an error.... maybe its the bell?
Take yer spuds off then weigh it again? 😆
Does that include pedals? Most bike weights don't for some reason, and bathroom scales are generally not accurate either.
is that bad?
its probably a couple of kilos lighter than my lightest bike
Seems about right. XT not that light.
Edit: though having said that, my 1x10 alu hardtail with revs and heavy tyres is 25 lbs 😆 oh and flat V12 pedals!
dont sweat, did the Enduro 6 this weekend. A club member did it on what looked like an 15year old ali MTB with vbrakes and old forks. 5th fastest lap of the day. trust me there where some exotic carbon bikes around!
25lb for a bike like that is good IMO.
I did have the pedals on, and a bell, and a mucky nutz fender...
what where you hoping for?
The 22lbs that if you took all the weights from the internet marketing BS, that it would add up to.
No point not weighing it without the stuff you normally have on it.
Mine is currently 25lb 6oz, which isn't bad for a 20" HT including MuddyNutz, Crud Catcher, Exposure light bracket and pedals.
Was lighter but lately I've broken 2 sets of CB pedals and an XTR crankset..., so 520's and XT substitutes on.
Devil's in the detail - odds are there are few culprits hiding a chunk of weight. Plenty of carbon posts can be bloody heavy for example.
Have you let the muck and water out of the down tube yet?
Take yer BB out, you might be surprised at the amount of gunk in there 😆
It'll be the bell, replace the stock bell with a carbotanium one.
what rotors you got on it?
My Ti weighs pretty much that on a digital scale with... 150mm Revelations, Hope Hoops with Flows, 2.5 Minion DHF (f) / Ardent 2.25 (r) and XT brakes with a 203mm rotor up front and 180mm at the back. Also including pedals... Haven bars and stem, Fizik Gobi on a Thomson. And an XTR triple crankset nicked off my race bike.
I think you might want to weigh it on some proper scales... 😉
Hmm need more detail.
My DJab was similarly disappointing at 24.5lb with this build:
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For not a huge amount of money it was easy to rid it of nearly 2.5lb.
Grips, saddle, bars, post and rotors were all holding "excess" weight.
That said the frame wasn't particularly light at 1840g 😡
My large Solaris weighs 27.3 pounds with REBAS, hope/flow wheels, 1x10 XT and 2.25 Ardents, even with Spesh Renegades on its over 26 pounds.
Don't stress, fitness will more than make up for a couple of pounds.
Has knowing it's weight made it ride any differently?
Were you happy before you weighed it? If so, what's changed since?
Dont get it personally.
Jeeeesus wept! Does it ride OK? Yeah? Right, stop flickin' well worrying! 🙄
Right here's the detail;
Its and Engima ego Ti (1604g)
XT 2012 2 x 10, with 160mm ice tech rotors both ends.
American Classic MTB wheels, shod with RRon & RRalph (snakeskin) tubeless with Stans.
Enigma Carbon post 350mm / 205g
Enigma Elipse Ti Saddle - 200g
Thompson 90mm OS Stem
Race face Dues 700mm bars
Renthal Kevlar grips
Enigma evolution headset 91g
Shimano 520 pedals
RS SID 100mm RLT
American classic ti skewers
Carbon headset spaces (3 of, 15mm in total 5mm above the stem which I could cut off).
Think thats it...
15 inch Rock Lobster 853, one of the lightest steel frames you can buy.
719's on Hope hubs. XR4/Crossmark, tubes.
Thomson post.
Carbon bars.
XT crank, SLX brakes & rings, Deore cassette, Spoon.
Rebas.
Nearly 28 pounds.
Mrs's ally (Easton Ultralight) Rock Lobster with Hope brakes, 717's, lighter tyres, full XT, ti saddle, EA70 kit & SID's is about 4lbs lighter & much more fun.
Not as comfy though.
It'll be the bell, replace the stock bell with a carbotanium one.
Titanium, surely? MKS or Van Nichols?
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Those 520 pedals have Uranium axles........weigh a ton, them.
Kryton57 - MemberIt was electronic bathroom scales
You're doing it wrong, "electric bathroom scales" are for when you just make up an unlikely number and want to give it at least some credibility.
frames hefty hefty for a start
Mister P - Member
Has knowing it's weight made it ride any differently?
It was a beautiful ride last weekend, and will be next weekend.
It might feel heavy at the end of next Sundays ride phsycologically, becuase its 83 miles long 🙂
yep , thomson stem needs to go , deus bars - 30-50 grams there , the pedals could go save 60 grams there with XTRS and another 40grams in the seat pin.
NJEE will probably come up with more cost effective ways im just going with how my 20 lb bikes speced 😉
Foam grips, remove the heliptape, trim some nobs off, trim the final 5mm of the steerer, take the Hed doctor out....
Has knowing it's weight made it ride any differently?
Mr P
It's Kryton57 ,everything matters 😆
Its not really worth weighing a bike, go on feel, does it feel light and nimble? then it's probably fine, be content...
Spending Several hundred quid more to shave another pound or two off of your bike? don't do it!
Surely the best use of your time and money is removing at the same or indeed greater mass form the user through exercise and pie rationing?*
*not that I've done that...
Alternatively go [S]1x10[/S] [S]1x5[/S] 1x3, buy the lightest rigid forks you can find, Drill holes on your crank arms, cut the post down tear the padding off the saddle and sit on the bare plastic carcass (Drilled of course), trim the bars down to 327mm wide, [s]use foam grips[/s] remove the grips, drll more holes in anything you can and fit the thinnest walled, lightest, 1.5" tyres you can find (Slicks maybe?).
It'll be horrific to ride and possibly kill you, but the car park bragging rights for having a sub 22lb bike will be off the scale on the ****ometer... and that's what really counts.
Maybe try some P.E.D's instead of worrying about a few grams here and there?
CookeAA, I'm not bothering to spend to lighten it, I like it as it is. It was doing just fine in some bombholes and rough singletrack with some 150mm bikes the other day, and was (of course) rocketing past them up the hills.
I was just suprised its nearly 26lbs. I wonder what mu alledged 26.5lbs ASR5 is, I'm scared to weigh it now.
Probably the scales though as said above, about 3lbs out maybe 😉
Shorter stem, cut 20mm off each end of the bars, file down your brake pads before using them, make sure there's some wear on those tyres as new ones weigh a little more, remove 3 bolts from each rotor and switch to 140mm, drink less water, have a hair cut etc etc
fasthaggis - MemberHas knowing it's weight made it ride any differently?
Mr P
It's Kryton57 ,everything matters
Sadly true, which reminds me, I'm out of dark chocolate...
yep , thomson stem needs to go , deus bars - 30-50 grams there , the pedals could go save 60 grams there with XTRS and another 40grams in the seat pin.NJEE will probably come up with more cost effective ways im just going with how my 20 lb bikes speced
Nope, can't argue with any of that, although XTRs aren't the lightest. I would say you know they'll work, but these days even that's a bit of a risk!
Grips for sure, KCNC stem and post and Mt Zoom bars. What do the wheels weigh? They do a few versions don't they?
Are they UST tyres? They're bloody heavy.
Wheels are 1440g, Tyres 550g each.
I actually choose Ritchey foam grips on my bikes, I find them dead comfy, they can save almost 100g and they cost like £6.
Another vote against UST.
Oh and remember bathroom scales are really not that accurate 🙂
My similarly spec'd Ti hardtail measured at 22.5lbs on my bathroom scales but I reckon it's actually closer to 23-24.
Ti frame
RS Rev RLT Ti
Easton Haven carbon bars
XT 2x10
Formula RX
Hope Pro2 SP with Crest - RocketRon/Ralph
Syncros carbon post with Syncros carbon seat
ESI grips
molgrips - MemberI actually choose Ritchey foam grips on my bikes, I find them dead comfy, they can save almost 100g and they cost like £6.
Me too.
Great, aren't they? 😀
today's ride
bike is about 13.5kg (that's being very very generous.. probably 15kg if I'm honest)
trailer is 10kg
son 1 is about 16kg
son 2 is about 6.5kg
shopping (including 6kg of fondant icing) was easily getting on for 10kg+
so that's about 56kg or 120 odd lbs.. and I haven't had a shit for about 2 days
Twas slow going into the 40mph headwinds.. 😀
I dunno how much my rigid SS soul weighs.. not much less
yunki - Member
today's ridebike is about 13.5kg
trailer is 10kg
son 1 is about 16kg
son 2 is about 6.5kg
shopping (including 6kg of fondant icing) was easily getting on for 10kg+so that's about 56kg or 120 odd lbs.. and I haven't had a shit for about 2 days
Twas slow going into the 40mph headwinds..
I dunno how much my rigid SS soul weighs.. not much less
You are Cancellara and I claim my £5...
are people ashamed of the brand of ti frame - saying "my ti frame" you might as well say my bike it is about as descriptive.
not all ti frames are equal - some are not even close every builder has his own ideas
You have been done, my bargain bucket scandal with kiddies wheels is much lighter, not sure how much just much.
I find out weights online or weigh bits I already have to avoid disappointment. If something is surprisingly heavy then I know what to change. It's worth the effort if your bothered about the bike weight and want to make sure the moneys spent in the right way. My bikes are never *that* light though, as I use slightly more durable parts. Remedy 2x9 with a dropper - 29lb, 456c with Alfine and Pikes - 26.6lb.
Thompson 90mm Stem 155g > Various at 130g
Race face Dues 700mm 300g > Haven Cabons 175g
Renthal Kevlar grips 100g > Esi 60g
Shimano 520 pedals 380g > Shimano XT M780 340g
Just a quick look (some aprrox weights), you could spend more but that's any easy half pound there.
are people ashamed of the brand of ti frame - saying "my ti frame" you might as well say my bike it is about as descriptive.
Not really, most ti hardtails weigh about 3.5lb give or take a few hundred grammes ime. The brand is pretty much irrelevant.
My Ti a la Carte is 22lb.
Large Frame 1700g (not light but oh so good)
100mm SID race with remote
Full XTRincluding pedals
Van Nic Ti stem and bars
KCNC foam grips
USE Ti post
Gobi kium - not the lightest but V. comfortable
Crests, pro2 evo,CXray and brass nips (longevity)1550g
Ti non QD 9mm skewers
Hope Race Evo with 140/160 floating rotors (rotors quite a lot lighter than 180s)
Ron/Ralph 2.2s tubeless
2x ti king cages (not weighed)
I believe the weight as I calibrated the scales (1l bottles of water)and the flux is 24.5 on bike shop scales with heavier wheels, 120 forks and a frame that weighs 1kg more.
Anyway swings and roundabouts - you probably use yours more and without worrying about the cost of XTR cassettes etc 😯
I won't be changing my car for 2 years as a result of this bike......
Anyway swings and roundabouts - you probably use yours more and without worrying about the cost of XTR cassettes etc
Yes, I worry about enough stuff as it is already - worrying about wear and tear due to high replacement costs is something I'm not wanting to worry about.
[i]Yes, I worry about enough stuff as it is already - worrying about wear and tear due to high replacement costs is something I'm not wanting to worry about. [/i]
You will, mate, you will...
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Mine weighs 23.18lbs according to the shop scales, quite chuffed wi that considering i've fitted a KS Lev dropper, i did ditch the thomson stem yesterday and fit an Easton haven which saved 10g - woohoo!. it does have every possible bolt replaced for Ti though which must save all of 30g. If i removed the Ti hipflask and holder i'd prob get it under 23lbs but the hipflask is just as imprtant as the pedals or bars so it's being counted as part of the bike.
Old pic not showing the Ks Lev dropper and with thomson stem
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Thompson 90mm Stem 155g > Various at 130g
Race face Dues 700mm 300g > Haven Cabons 175g
Renthal Kevlar grips 100g > Esi 60g
Shimano 520 pedals 380g > Shimano XT M780 340gJust a quick look (some aprrox weights), you could spend more but that's any easy half pound there.
Try harder!
KCNC SC Wing stem - 96g
Mt Zoom risers - 165g
Bontrager XXX Lite grips - 14g
Ritchey WCS Paradigm pedals - 225g
Net cost of that will be about the same. Pedals likely won't last, nearing a pound saved though.
it does have every possible bolt replaced for Ti though which must save all of 30g.
IMO it's better (and vastly cheaper) to replace what you can with alu, rather than do everything with ti. I'm running alu bolts in my shifter, brake levers, chainset, mechs, rotor bolts, bottle cage and a Mt Zoom one piece alu headset top cap and bolt.
Full length outer cables can be quite heavy, Quaxar stuff seems quite good.
somafunk - MemberMine weighs 23.18lbs according to the shop scales, quite chuffed wi that considering i've fitted a KS Lev dropper, i did ditch the thomson stem yesterday and fit an Easton haven which saved 10g - woohoo!. it does have every possible bolt replaced for Ti though which must save all of 30g. If i removed the Ti hipflask and holder i'd prob get it under 23lbs but the hipflask is just as imprtant as the pedals or bars so it's being counted as part of the bike.
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I'm failing to see how my bike weighs 2.5lbs more than that.
My frame is a bit lighter than yours, it was 1396g and i didn't pay for my ti bolts - i've a mate who work in motorsport so i raided one of his roller cabinets, a bit cheeky perhaps but i don't charge for my time when doing work for him.
Hope ceramic bb, middleburn cranks,R1 brakes and alloy spiders, every little bit soon adds up.
[i]I'm failing to see how my bike weighs 2.5lbs more than that. [/i]
Different size, with pedals, cruds etc maybe - plus more importantly different scales.
My scales are either accurate or over-read (according to everyone else who weighs their bikes...). If you are at all bothered get yourself a set of Park (or the like) scales, and some drug scales for components. At least then you'll have a more accurate base-line.
and some drugs. At least then you won't care.
FTFY
Being bored last year i stripped my Pitch into parts and weighed it on the kitchen (salter digital) scales.
Now either they're exactly as inaccurate as the bathroom ones or they're both pretty accurate as they both came to the same total weight. Provided a useful idea what to bin, but most of the changes I ended up making were for more functional reasons.
Still do the following on all my bikes though:
1) tubeless, gheto with insulating tape and an old valve, saves 100g per end even with sealant and is almost free.
2) foam grips, because i like them and they're another 100g off.
For £6 that's almost a lb off any shop bought bike!
Spent a lot (well, £800) lightening an entry level road bike, went from 21lb to 16.something, makes a difference to how it feels and rides, but not to how quick it is unfortunately.