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[Closed] I want to learn how to build my own wheels

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I work shifts so would struggle with an attendance course.

so is there an online tutorial, or book that can teach me what i want to know?

Im not a mechanical numptie, and would really love to learn.

thanks

Ian


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 5:22 pm
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The Roger Musson book plus a reasonable jig, dishing gauge and you'll be fine.

I started re-rimming a couple of wheels to get a feel for it without having to worry about spoke lacing.


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 5:24 pm
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Sheldon Brown & Rodger Musson are your guides.


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 5:24 pm
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Another one for Roger Musson.Just follow the process. If you're not a mechanical numptie you'll find it all quite straightforward.


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 5:25 pm
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I started re-rimming

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Posted : 23/01/2015 5:28 pm
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You, in the cheap seats, settle down!

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Posted : 23/01/2015 5:28 pm
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The Roger Musson book

+1. i bought this and a true pro a few years back. i must have built around 6 pairs of wheels since. great fun. ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 5:29 pm
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Is it all e-book?


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 5:30 pm
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+1 Roger Musson.

Built three wheels so far. Not perfect but still together.


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 5:31 pm
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It's a bit old fashioned, some outdated theories in the light of modern rim/hub design and materials but Jobst Brant's book is pretty good if you like a proper printed book.

Personally I think a spoke tensometer is more useful than a dishing tool. Others may disagree.


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 5:34 pm
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[url= http://www.wheelpro.co.uk/ ]Wheelpro[/url]

Very easy to follow, I had a mate build the truing stand.

Very satisfying to build your own wheels, but I wouldn't call it fun 8)


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 5:52 pm
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Is there an up-to-date physical book out that is decent, I fancy a bit of evening reading on this


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 5:56 pm
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I printed out the wheelpro (Musson) one. Was pretty easy to do, and I am happy with the stand!


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 6:05 pm
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Much to the Wifes annoyance, I took Roger Musson to bed. I'll admit to drifting off during the more techy bits, & he was on the floor when I awoke, but something must have gone in because next day I went on to pre-lube 32 nipples. Good old nipple driver helped stop me going too deep. First one was on the dining room table, but the Wife came home early & hit the roof. Next one was in the garage, but finished a few off in the garden last summer too. Old chap next door even watched me finish one off from over the fence.


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 6:10 pm
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I built several simply using Sheldon Browns' guide and some zip ties on the fork leg, and my fingers to gauge spoke tension.

I've no doubt they could be built to a higher standard, but mine have lasted just fine. I think this is because i've not gone super lightweight so there is a margin of error (rather than me having exceptional wheel building skills)

I've built mine using Novatec hubs, ACI DB spokes (i.e, nothing triple butted and 1.5mm thick) and mid-weight rims (e.g. in the past i've used Halo Aerotrack for disc road wheels, or Arch EX for MTB).

I also built some using those 288g road hubs on eBay, however the front 24h wheel came out a little flexy, and the rear 32h started breaking spokes after a couple of years. Nonetheless, they survived two seasons of racing, cost < 140 quid, and weighed around 1500g.


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 6:14 pm
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Roger Mussons book, all the way. Lots of detail and easy to follow instructions. It's only a few quid, so go buy it. You can also email him if you have any problems. He's been very helpful whenever I've asked anything.

I would definitely recommend building a truing stand. There's plans for building one out of MDF in the book and the materials don't cost much. I did make a modification to the stand by adding a micrometer. Was about a tenner in Toostation. I made the lateral and radial trueness guides as described in the book, but found it much quicker and easier using the micrometer, rather than eyeballing the gap between the rim and the guides I'd made.


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 6:16 pm
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no question roger munsons book, i hate ebooks too, print it off, and work through step by step. i went through all the resources i could find and hands down it was the best. think you get lifetime downloads of the revisions too.

once you get the basics the jobst brandt one as well if you want more info, very similar but some different ideas and advice.

i would definitely buy a stand, even a basic one, and i would also buy a dishing tool. i did my first wheel with a bit of card and it really was not that accurate.

i could'nt even true a wheel before i bought roger's book.


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 8:43 pm
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I believe a beard is required to build wheels. It's near enough magical wizard level of bike skills anyway.

But other than that, a fair bit of money required for the stand, and patience. I've not built a wheel from scratch but just trying to true one a little bit out was a mission in itself.


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 9:15 pm
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+1 for Rogering Musson ๐Ÿ™‚

I've got a park stand which is lush but I've heard the cheaper jobsworth ones aren't to bad..

you can get by without a disher just a bit more arsing around and a tension meters nice but tbh again you can start wiv out.

I haven't got a beard but tbh some of the wheels are cheaper bought made than building yourself..IMHO


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 9:29 pm
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Gerd Schraner's [url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Wheelbuilding-Gerd-Schraner/dp/0964983532 ]The Art of Wheelbuilding[/url] is very good too.


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 10:01 pm
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I built stans arches on hopes with 2 pages of print outs from the internet, a bit of time to kill, some common sense and a bottle of beer. It went fine and they didn't eben need truing after it bit of use.

It's not a black art, it's just being methodical.


 
Posted : 23/01/2015 10:59 pm
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It was easier than I thought it would be. I found a youtube video to explain the lacing and I think it was a Sheldon brown article that I used to do the trueing. 2 more wheels to do soon


 
Posted : 24/01/2015 1:30 am
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Guys, this is ace. Thanks for the input. Im def going to do this asap


 
Posted : 24/01/2015 5:47 am
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I've built a couple of sets using the Roger Musson ebook thing - first set I built have done around 3-4000 miles & never been touched since, used the upturned frame / forks as a jig & patience, lots of patience - be methodical is the best advice. I find finger tightening the nipples (fnarr) until they start to grip then working round every spoke & giving them a full turn or two each for starters, after that a full turn / half a turn each until the tension starts to build - address any issues as they appear & check for true each time you get back to the starting point. I try to get the dish close as I go - if it looks off centre as you build the tension up, give one side a half turn instead of a full turn, if your tension is too high once you start to dish, every slight adjustment makes a massive difference to the shape.

You'll also need beer & some high grade swear words.


 
Posted : 24/01/2015 10:26 am