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I think there may be issues with my hands 🤣

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This was the absolute state of them after yesterday's ride. I'd been sat outside a pub for 45 mins before this was taken. Fine when I'm riding, the feeling goes when I stop

Wasn't far off 10 degrees but felt like my hands had been out in -5. Finger ends had zero feeling.

Obviously deeper issues going on, but I think half the problem is my wrist position. Keep catching myself with my wrists arching down rather than straight or up, thus putting pressure on the ulnar nerve

Effect is slightly exaggerated in the pic due to how I was holding them

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Posted : 31/03/2024 3:29 pm
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I’d check for a pulse first!


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 4:00 pm
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Posted : 31/03/2024 4:20 pm
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The colour reminds me of those global hypercolour shirts from the 90s.


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 4:24 pm
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Gollum had hands like that!


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 4:27 pm
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Cat aids, the bad kind too. Can I have your bike when the inevitable happens?


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 4:28 pm
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Your hands are minging mate


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 4:38 pm
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Looks line Raynauds - my wife suffers with it, more in winter but doesn’t need to be freezing for it to come on …

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/raynauds/


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 5:28 pm
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Yep that’s Reynauds - I get it too, my hands will often end up like that. Not pleasant! Nothing to do with wrist position, it’s about the change of body temp and restriction of the blood vessels. There’s a surgery to help if it’s really bad, most of us just live with it ( and carry multiple gloves to change and keep hands warm!)


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 6:01 pm
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Yes Reynauds, I get it but never when I’m biking outside only when I’m Zwifting and the room is really cold.

I put my hands in the sink filled with warm water and after about 3 minutes my fingers go from white to black and tingle like hell then go back to normal colour.


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 6:12 pm
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No skin between the fingers so not a Fenweasel or from Lincolnshire....


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 6:29 pm
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Yep, reynauds, possibly exacerbated by carpel tunnel and other issues as you work with your hands don’t you?, similar to how my hands used to go - winter/early spring was absolutely murder for myself

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Posted : 31/03/2024 7:02 pm
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This is a very familiar sight. Be prepared for everyone to recommend Briskers 😀

Get yourself some Heat Holders concepts gloves and wear them whenever you're out. Keep your arms covered and warm. Don't stick your hands in hot water. Try not to cry if you do....
Keep an eye on them, I find I've they've had a nasty attack of Reynauds then I'm more susceptible for a few weeks. I've had it really bad this year and got low grace frostbite, and it's no fun, made me really take care of them
@ton l'll give that a try, thanks!


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 7:30 pm
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Suspected it might be Raynauds

Top work with some of the replies too 😉


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 7:34 pm
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Still worth considering wrist positioning, is something taught in brush cutter training to reduce fatigue and improve circulation as an action to reduce likelihood of vibration white finger.


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 7:54 pm
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Not sure on the science, but know a few winter swimmers that get raynauds who say that, for them, it's closely related to hydration levels, not just the cold and circulation.

No idea how common that might be.


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 8:23 pm
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Yep Raynaud's is crap, mine seems to be getting worse every year too. Still having to wear thin gloves if I go out to the shop etc at the minute. Got blistered chilblains on my feet/toes this winter which was fun, they're still not quite back to normal. Will be taking more preventative measures next winter!

The most helpful thing for me for riding is warm long sleeve/leg base layers to keep the blood warm on the way to the extremities. And ski gloves, crap bar feel for descending but at least you'll be able to feel your hands afterwards!


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 9:47 pm
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Youngest_oab has Reynauds too. It's rubbish - even on warm days his hands can go like that, and on winter mountain climbs he never can find a glove good enough. I think we're going to treat him to heated gloves this year.


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 9:56 pm
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Get the same thing, it's quite common.

Best DIY solution I've found is to swing your arms very vigorously in a horizontal plane in front of you to restore circulation a bit.  Couple of caveats to that... 1) try not to hit anyone just out of sight to the sides. 2) try not to hit any walls, trees, furniture etc. 3) try not to hit your hands together at the front.

As the blood returns, the pink and white somafunk look comes with it 😆


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 10:10 pm
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As the blood returns, the pink and white somafunk look comes with it

My hands just went blue then a black colour which is known as periphial cyanosis where the hands/fingers no longer get oxygenated blood, I couldn’t really leave the house/go on bike for years during the colder months nor do any work that involved using hands outside.

I didn’t know it at the time but this was also partly exacerbated by my undiagnosed spms which caused the muscle in my arms to spasm which made the cyanosis even worse.

I quit the work I was doing in 2009 as I couldn’t cope with using tools in the colder months, doctor at the time was absolutely utterly ****ing useless and kept repeating that it was chilblains and many folk suffered from it, he advised me to wear gloves - no shit Sherlock?, and that took 7 years of medical study?, I called him ****ing useless to his face and never went back which is prob just as well giving the interest the medical authority (or whatever it is called) took into him a few months later.


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 11:01 pm
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Yep that’s Reynauds

Isn't the solution carbon or aluminium then?


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 11:25 pm
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Hell's teeth man. Time to move to the tropics?


 
Posted : 31/03/2024 11:34 pm