[Closed] I fought Stan and won (eventually)

I don't understand how people can have so many problems. I've done it with lots of different tyres, lots of different wheels, and never needed anything more then a track pump. The first couple of times I used washing up liquid and water, but not any more..

When I did my Racing Ralph on ZTR 355's I nearly passed out due to vigorous pumping with ye olde track pump 😳

Clearly being married has depleted my pumpability 😆

I have 355 rims and a non tubeless new nobby nic went up straight away with a track pump. It needed quite a lot sealant to hold the air. Also got a used Specialized Captain up with just a track pump - I'm not sure how you've struggled to get your up with a compressor!

I've been having lots of "fun" with ghetto tubeless. I've tried Mavic 717s and Ritchey WCS with a Maxxis High Roller. I couldn't get either to seat with a track pump, although I had more luck with a CO2 cartridges.

I think one of the problems is the rim profile. On the Ritchey WCS the valve core rubber gets in the way of the second layer of tape., but on the Mavic there is a little trough for it to sit it so I get a better seal.

Next time I buy wheels I'll definitely buy something more suitable, but at the moment I'll have to make do with what I've got.

Cheers

I did the tube trick to get it seated and left it for half hour so the tyre took shape, popped it off one side removed tube etc. Filled it up with sealent and blew it back up with the compressor, First time too 😀

I did the tube trick to get it seated and left it for half hour so the tyre took shape

+1 - Def makes a difference 🙂

Also pushing and hitting the tyre over the valve helps seat it

I just replaced a tyre this afternoon on Stans 355's with Kenda Nevegals 2.l - took a little time to seal little bead holes but with a compressor I got it up first time 😉

So it was less a case of fighting and winning, but actually following the instructions?

never got one on with a track pump (i bow to your skill) but using a co2 inflater never fails 😉

Practice I think Jamie - When I first started I would use the term fighting but now I know the tricks of the trade its def easier 🙂

I think it really depends on the tyres if trying teh ghetto method. I used Larson TT UST's. Got them sealed but only using a compressor. They work really well and I doubt I'll ever go back to tubes.

This is why I stick to Mavic XM819's...simples 😉

To be fair I have Stan's Arches and they were a piece of piss to setup with some HR LUSTs.

[i]This is why I stick to Mavic XM819's...simples [/i]

wot he said

never had a problem with bontrager or kenda tubeless/ust tyres. inflated with track pump. sometimes had to hold it down over the valve.

I don't think it helped that I was using non UST tires and they were 2nd hand so sent through the post half folded and half coiled up.

"Mike - Member

This is why I stick to Mavic XM819's...simple"

Tyres fit to either pretty much exactly the same tbh.

Just installed Ralphs and Rockets onto some new alpines. 20 mins total for the pair. Really really easy, installed the tyres on the rims high pressure for a a couple of days with tubes. Bit of soapy water, left half the bead on each tyre, track pump - easy peasy.

I nearly passed out due to vigorous pumping

s****s ........

'Scuse my ignorance, but what is ghetto?

ps Hi Shortbread!

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Type cast but think along the lines of folks here and how they might want to avoid spending a fortune 'fixing' something, more likely to find a cheap alternative.

What it means here is that rather than fork out a few quid on proper tubeless setup we'd rather spend a fortune in cash and time trying to get something to work that wasn't designed to.

Better still:
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Check the rims...