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FFS, it’s Trek, they’ve managed to get PED’s legalised for all UCI events. Obvs.


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 11:02 pm
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Ovalised cassettes


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 11:36 pm
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It's a new, nonlinear measurement standard with a random number generator in, for measuring tyre widths


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 11:42 pm
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Rod brakes make a come back... 🙂


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 12:28 am
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I'm going for integrated gearbox or integrated gearbox with ebike motor.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:37 am
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Or a pinion with some kind of Di2/AXS style actuation?


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:41 am
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Bamboo bikes


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:04 am
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[url= https://patents.justia.com/patent/20180257734 ]Anything here?[/url] I'm struggling to work out quite what this is, although it sounds a bit like a new 'softtail' with the seattube (rather than the rear triangle) deflecting.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:11 am
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Let’s just say, it is something for everyone and it will change a standard that has been accepted for years. That is all I can and shall say until the 19th!

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmeh.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:13 am
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Triangular wheels.
Frameless bikes with anti-mag suspension.
Square wheels.
Four wheels and engine and metal box


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:18 am
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I reckon they're going to rip off the Athertons/Robot Bike Co and offer custom geometry.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:28 am
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So suspension grips using elastomer ish stuff instead of a round handle bar

Ah, a Trek pogo stick...


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:31 am
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Anything here? I’m struggling to work out quite what this is, although it sounds a bit like a new ‘softtail’ with the seattube (rather than the rear triangle) deflecting.

Sounds like isospeed, Trek Domane 2012 ish, also on some of their hardtails.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:38 am
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Some sort of derailleur fitted around the large front cog, enabling a choice of up to three front cogs, allowing a more efficient small cassette on the back of say, eight gears, but giving a wider range.
Madness I know, but I’m on my third coffee.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:49 am
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Re-imagining the whole handlebars at the front saddle at the back thing. Electric obvs, with lower bucket seat for aero. Extra wheel at back for stability. And a lawsuit from Sir Clive 😀


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:53 am
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Regenerative braking on an Ebike?


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:59 am
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Interesting strategy to tease it this early. It's obviously not a closely guarded secret. Even some folk on this thread seem to know what it is. So, they must be expecting most of the details to leak before the official launch. Is that to generate more hype or just to get the backlash out the way before the launch?

I'm assuming it will be another attempt to persuade us that we need a motor of some sort on our mountain bike. Can't blame them really. If you can convince people to pay more for something less reliable then why wouldn't you?


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:07 am
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Even some folk on this thread seem to know what it is.

The 'something for everyone' quoted earlier from a Trek employee seems fitting.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:22 am
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They're going to apologise for ruining the Bontrager and Klein brands and bring them back to former glory?


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:35 am
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Gravel bike with adjustable 'compliance'?
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190031273A1/


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:45 am
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Are they doing a range of women's clothes & not including anything pink?


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:57 am
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To be fair it's got everyone talking about their upcoming product release... which was the aim of this marketing campaign.

In protest we should all just stop talking about it and ignore whatever it is when it has been released!


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 11:21 am
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Let’s just say, it is something for everyone and it will change a standard that has been accepted for years. That is all I can and shall say until the 19th!

Logically, pretty much the *only* thing that has stayed [b]standard[/b] over the last 30 years is 1/2" pitch on chains (and yes, I know someone is going to come along with the whole 3/32" chain thing on BMX and some track bikes or the very small number of bikes that use belt-drive but basically, chains are 1/2" pitch).

If you think about it, more or less every other "standard" has changed in that time. Wheels (in size and how they're fitted), bar / stem sizes, rear dropout spacing, disc mounts, steerer tube diameter....

Frame material isn't a standard so it shouldn't really be some magic new material because there'll always be steel & alu & carbon & Ti...

Geometry isn't really a standard becasue while there's a (mostly) accepted range of what is considered normal there are always outliers and evolutions and different bikes for different purposes so it shouldn't be some wildly new geometry.

The only other thing I can think of that has remained a standard for that long is the saddle, it's almost always been a twin-railed seat held in place by one or two bolts. A few exceptions over the years but saddles are pretty mucha universal standard.

So, new chainless (gearbox?) bike or a new saddle.
Let's see how dramatically wrong I am at the end of the month...


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 11:25 am
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Like @matt_outandabout said, pedal spindle thread diameter has been around for ages.

Attaching the saddle to the frame with a round post is almost universal.

Major mfrs. are also pretty conservative in crank length.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 11:31 am
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Colab with ceramicspeed and their shaft drive?


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 11:42 am
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Something to do with personal protection is my guess.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 11:45 am
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Don't like Trek so not fussed...


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 11:49 am
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Must be something material related.
Here's the whole image, and you can see some sort of lattice bottom left.
They've called the image 'Xd Teaser Marquee', so who knows.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 11:53 am
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lets not limit ourselves to 2 wheels


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 12:33 pm
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Pedal bolt diameter increase, for moar stiffness. (S****)

If it allowed 1 inboard and no outboard bearings, a market would be found.

Bin done innit?

pedals


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 12:41 pm
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Guys, listen to this weeks dirt shed show.

Its a 'new' material, some sort of natural based/organic composite material. More recyclable, easier to produce, etc etc.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 1:13 pm
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Natural based organic composite? That sounds like plywood....


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 1:18 pm
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A free pistol with each bike. Cos bears.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 1:23 pm
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it's obvious, isn't it...
Harris tweed instead of carbon fibres in the frame and the battery will be used to run a new hi-tech, super intelligent power self-steering system.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 1:53 pm
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Actually, rear wheel drive has kind of been a given for a while...

Two wheel electric drive? Full suspension with big tyres would be quite an unstoppable machine up a hill


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:15 pm
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I'd buy a tweed frame..!


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:45 pm
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Solid tyres that are relatively light and grippy .


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:48 pm
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2wd e-bikes, there's an idea. Easy to implement too. Think of the fun you could have with 5" tyres and two 250W motors.

I thought crazy-legs might've been close - perhaps a shaft drive gearbox bike (even though it's been done, marketers don't really care) but a new frame material is a nice idea.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:50 pm
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I reckon some kind or organic composite, like carbon fibre but not carbon fibre, maybe some kind of tree fibre


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:09 pm
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Probably bamboo fibre of same sort.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:17 pm
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another attempt to do away with air in the tyres


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:20 pm
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aheadsets are about 30 years old


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:23 pm
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To change something for everyone means all bike types and costs so I think it has to be something universal to a BSO.

Only thing that warrants a news story big enough not to fall flat on its face when it is finally launched is airless tyres imho.

The lattice background picture could be something to do with sidewall contstruction to give compliance.

Struggle to think that it would be a bike manufacturer that came up with the idea though - maybe in collaboration with a tyre manufacturer or similar.

If it is just a standard of something or other, like bottom bracket shell or drop outs etc, surely 90% of the bike buying public would be seriously underwhelmed and therefore not justify these wild claims.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:31 pm
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Only other standard I can think of that fits every bike from BSO to £12k wonder-machine is the humble bottle cage mount.


 
Posted : 08/03/2019 7:21 am
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To change something for everyone means all bike types

Unless it means everyone, be they cyclist or not, which would fit with some sort of super eco frame material. Saving the fluffy polar bears, innit.


 
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