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[Closed] Hydraulic Disc Brakes - Problem

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Yesterday I received my disc brakes from CRC. A set of Avid Elixir 3.
I think there may be a problem with the pistons or pads?? There is very little room between the pads on the rear calliper. The wheel side pad/piston doesn't seem to fully open and I cannot get the calliper aligned so the pads dont rub on the rotor(even with he Avid CPS system).

Earlier when I was installing the brakes and went to remove the rear pad block/spacer, it wouldn't come out easy. Was jammed. I had to pull hard to remove it. The lever was still in bubble wrap and had NOT been pulled.

Does it sound like a problem with the wheel side piston? Can they be realigned? Do I need to bleed the brakes to realign?

I have contacted CRC but thought someone on the forum might offer advice faster.
Thanks.


 
Posted : 16/04/2013 2:36 am
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Did you push the pistons back in?

Just because you've not pulled the lever doesn't mean someone else hasn't.


 
Posted : 16/04/2013 2:43 am
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Yeah, i tried to push them back in/out. But it wouldnt open any further.

Do I need to release the fluid pressure to realign the pistons? I think with some shimano brakes you need to open the reservoir (I assume to release some pressure). But the Elixir's dont have a reservoir coz they use the 'taper bore technology'??

I also tried pumping the brakes a dozen times (with the rotor installed). I thought that was supposed to self align pistons??


 
Posted : 16/04/2013 2:49 am
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Send them back.

If they had a reservoir you could remove some quite easily. But as they're new and don't have a reservoir, just get them exchanged.

Failing that hopefully an Avid expert will be along soon.


 
Posted : 16/04/2013 4:17 am
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Managed to track down some answers in this Avid setup guide. Page 2.


 
Posted : 16/04/2013 6:52 am
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They do have a reservoir,but it's not a huge one, accessible via the TX10 screw just above the hose fitting(maybe under a rubber shroud).Loosen the screw. push the pads back, then nip it back up and there should be plenty of room for the rotor.As an aside, I always get the caliper pistons moving past their normal position, then fully retract them, and then perform a thorough bleed on every set of new Avids as they come with sticky pistons/sh*te bleed out of the factory. The difference in feel and performance is immense, and you'll be less likely to have them go t*ts up mid ride.Caliper alignment is also crucial to them working properly/being trouble free.


 
Posted : 16/04/2013 8:11 am
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When you say " I always get the caliper pistons moving past their normal position"

do you mean that you pull the lever without having a rotor between the pads? So they close past their normal position? Possibly but a single business card between the pads? Will I be able to open them again?


 
Posted : 16/04/2013 9:35 am
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Welcome to Avid brakes and the start of your 'experience', now just imagine what they'll be like after a couple of years...


 
Posted : 16/04/2013 9:38 am
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Re. extending past their normal position, I usually take one pad out, slide a screwdriver in the gap to brace the rotor against the other pad, then squeeze the lever to move the piston out about 3-4mm, push it back, and repeat on the other side.Don't push them too far, many people on here have witnessed the mess it makes ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 16/04/2013 9:53 pm