[Closed] How ya like me now??!?! (New-Non-Fugly-Carbon-456)

that's the first carbon 456 I've seen that looks really good. I like it, nice one matey 😀

Looks good.

What size is it and how tall are you?? Thanks

I like it, maybe get some custom Fox decals for the full on murdered out stealth look.

It looks almost military. In a good way.

Other than that, feel free to insult and pick fault!

*Gets comfy...*

Brilliant. Bring it to the Mendips sometime, I wanna go.

maybe get some custom Fox decals for the full on murdered out stealth look.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly...... Too much colour on the forks. 🙂

OXNOP - It's a 16in and I'm 5'8", bang in the middle of the size range for a 16in frame 🙂

Tazzy, thanks, glad someone agrees 🙂

PP that would look superb in the same orange as your 853 inbred

So how does it ride then

Looks superb imho

F.U.G.L.Y sorry. 😀

So how does it ride then

I'll tell you on Boxing Day! The transfers aren't even dry yet, I've literally just finished building it!

It doesn't look as good as mine, but not too far behind 🙂

Intrigued by your weight though, seems overly optimistic, compared with mine anyway. No idea how accurate my scales are though.

agree with the patchy finish, especially around the base...........of the cake 😛

lovely looking wee bike though !

did you leave the down tube resting on the radiator ?

(actually, I like em)

looks good ...enjoy

Looking good m8, you'll love it trust me. Interested in accurate weight, mine with same forks is just over 27lb weighed on two sets of scales to make sure, would like to know how to lose that extra couple.

To be honest I can't wait to ride it. I've never ridden a carbon frame. Seems OK out on the street, but that's seer ice so I can't really tell.

You have achieved great things there, that's really nice.

I doubt I will ever see another nice one.

Re the weight:

I've got a reasonable set of fishing scales, accurate to 1oz. I've just re-weighed it at 26lb 9oz with SPDs on. 350g seems about right for 520s which is 12oz-ish. So that's about the right increase over the previous weight I quoted.

To be fair the wheelset is pretty light - Mavic 717, Hope XC, DB spokes, Ti quick releases, and those big Kendas are folding/Kevlar. Bonty RL stems are light, the bars, saddle and seatpost are on the light side of average too. X9 kit is lightish. Magura Louises give Shimano XT a run for their money on weight too, especially as these are IS ones so have no extra adaptor to add to the mass... They could be lighter than XT TBH.

The worst bits are the Deore chainset and cassette. I could stick my XT chainset on off the Unbred and loose a bit more, but I prefer the stealthy black Deore....

🙂

I reckon. Could get it below 26lb with bits I've got lying around in the garage....But that's not the point really 🙂

Goodnight all. I've got to go to work at 6am 🙁

Your kitchen is looking really nice there Pete. 🙂 Hope normal service is now resumed!

You can't beat stealth black and you've done well there. Just be aware of the pick-up when you descend. 😀

Enjoy!

Yep, best looking one I've seen. Agree about the fork deals, that'd really finish it off!

Sorry, my mistake, I thought you said [i] non[/i] Fugly..

I hope it rides opposite to how it looks as it's a awfully ugly bike (the frame is the culprit).
I can see a point though - thief-proofing of bikes is a good business.

I'm bored at work, and just had a quick tot-up of the price. Some of the bit's I've had a long time and came as part of a 'deal' or pair(Brakes, front wheel) but working out the new cost as part of that, not what they're worth now, I've paid £972 for that bike. Not bad... 🙂
And that's even including cables, innertubes and my bargain £3 seatclamp (LBS spares bin)

it's a awfully ugly bike

See, I don't think it is 🙂 I was honestly prepared for it to be gopping, and whilst it certainly not pretty like my 853 Inbred is, it's not as ugly as the bare frame suggests it should be IMO. I think that's becasue I've stayed away from colours, and kept it subtle. Mrs PP said "It looks very stealthy" which I agree with. It's not pretty, but I think I've built the nicest 456C I've seen to date **pats self on back** 🙂

But then I do so love black bikes. The more black the better. I like bikes that don't shout about themselves and just look subtle but a tad mean... 🙂

I think it's a nice looking bike, looks like it's got a job to do. Very chameleon-esqe.

I'm not an On-One/Ragley fan at all.

But that is lovely.

Bugger...

Looks good Peter, i actually don't mind the frame with it's weird shape, at least it's something different!

you can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter

Still a god awful looking frame but I'd be interested in taking a spin on one, it's an interesting concept for a bike light and long travel hardtail.

I think it's a nice looking bike, looks like it's got a job to do. Very chameleon-esqe.

Hmm. I'll have to go look at a Chameleon now! 🙂

I was thinking it looked like one of these, TBH, in an odd way????
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I'm not an On-One/Ragley fan at all.

Looks tiny, I thought it was for MrsPP when I saw that first pic.

Doesn't look bad Pete though interestingly in the pics, it looks rather like your run of the mill generic alu hardcore hardtail. I'm sure that it looks more carbony in the flesh...

But all black - so 2 years ago.

you can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter

Brilliant!

(The bike's pretty nice, btw)

Nice! Not sure you have considered the 853's feelings though 😉

Lovely bit of kit Pete.

You might have to move it slightly from its storage place if you ever need access to fridge or cupboards, for whatever reason.

That's the first carbon bike I've seen that I like the look of. It looks good - you're right to avoid colour. Impressive weight. (I have an aversion to carbon bikes as I know that if I ever sat "on one" it would break in two immediately).

I'll be building mine up singlespeed with some Pace RC41's (black legs and stanchions) in the next few days - will post some pics up.

Still not sure if to put stickers on - may just go for the splat and see.

At last someone has built one up with a decent amount of seatpost showing... looks ace

Looks great, the ride will be even better 😀 I made the same change from an 853 to a 456C and am loving it.

Yes, that looks very nice, but then you know that.

Whats everyone talking about? Thats a nice looking frame. Like a stealth bomber

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I want one.

Looks good, my mate replaced his remedy with one and loves
it!

Nice, I know people won't believe this but they really do look alright in the flesh I think.

I think mine will end up looking a little similar to that. Donor bike arrived yesterday so will be building over Xmas.

Still not sure if to put stickers on

I'm leaving mine bare, like when people take the numbers off the back of their BMWs.

Mr Poddy

I used to like you till I saw this 🙁

Now I want one to replace my too small hardtail frame

Best try to get it sold and save my pennies

Cheers

Quite like it.Reminds me of an orange sub zero.

Damn you Peter I've just ordered one now 🙂

i quite like them, i really like that new red/black decalled one thats just come out! really looks nice!

if i was having one like PP id just have it debadged - boy racer style, ok more stealth should i say! i think it would look really cool with no decals at all....

that said, as above the new black one with red decals looks the bizo!

if i was buying a h/t again, i think id go down the path of the carbon on one 456! i actually like the shape of them too!

PP, I love black bikes, I dislike most CF frames' looks. It's your bike nevertheless so only your opinion matters.

Excellent tyre-logo valve alignment.

You can never have enough black imo

Excellent tyre-logo valve alignment.

I've been doing it since my 1991 Cindercone (which was also black) so I'm fairly good at it now..... I do aim to please! 😉 😉

pp, how does the chainring clearance compare to the 853 inbred...a normal 853 that is not the reworked chainstay you have

would a 22/36 fit with lots of room?

[i]you can't polish a turd[/i]

I believe a recent episode of Mythbusters proved that actually, you can...but thats for a different thread.

Looks good, don't normally like black bikes but that looks cool, nice one. Price is stunning for the sort of bike you've got there. Prefer open cables as well, but then I run proper gears (Shimano) so they're not as prone to shifting issues as SRAM (joke).

Ride report soon?

I think its a good looking frame to start out with and your bike looks 'ready'! Shame the finish aint up to much though.

more importantly , what is that gopping fridge from the 80's doing in your shiney new kitchen?
nice bike btw , but then its naked carbon so you cant really go wrong imo, would look good in my mancave alongside my Proflex.

more importantly , what is that gopping fridge from the 80's doing in your shiney new kitchen?

Waiting for us to drop 'decent hardtail money' on a Samsung American-style fridge in the next couple of days in the 'sales' before the VAT goes up!
It's for sale if you want it! 🙂

pp, how does the chainring clearance compare to the 853 inbred...a normal 853 that is not the reworked chainstay you have
would a 22/36 fit with lots of room?