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 iolo
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For a warm bed in the Austrian Alps?
No food, just bed. 7km from a bike park / ski resort.
I'm seriously considering buying a guesthouse but the logistics of cooking every day is not really something I would like to do. There are various restaurants near and I would have no problem people preparing their own food (as long they tidy up).
It's currently got 8 rooms with 14 beds in total.
It's 5 minutes from the motorway and has a great view.
It's near here http://www.bikeparksemmering.at/en/bikepark/trails/
It's one of the closest skiing areas to vienna with Gondola.
It's also a perfect base for walking around this beautiful area.
What would you guys be prepared to pay?


 
Posted : 05/04/2015 9:06 pm
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If you want a wide spread of opinion - I wouldn't stay somewhere where I had to drive to the trails.

But I'm sure there are plenty who will.

Edit - what I'd pay would also depend on frequency of summer flights, availability of transfer etc. Is it a big riding area? Is it worth a week's holiday without a car? Are there other parks nearby? Good access to supermarkets if self-catering? It's a long drive from Calais compared to French Alps.


 
Posted : 05/04/2015 9:12 pm
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what sort of 7km is it? 7km at 10% up an alp or 7km along a valley to the cable car? would make a *huge* difference to how attractive it is.

and I second what wallop was saying, there's a lot of other factors that'll affect what people will pay


 
Posted : 05/04/2015 10:18 pm
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We paid €20pppn for a very similar thing as what you describe in Villard Reculas, around 7km and half the Alpert d huez road climb from alpe d huez town centre. Though there is a chairlift from hues do not that bad


 
Posted : 05/04/2015 10:42 pm
 iolo
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Its 7k uphill to the bike/ski park along a nice valley drive.
It's perfectly placed for hiking.
It's in Maria Schutz.


 
Posted : 06/04/2015 6:22 am
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I'd stop thinking 'bikes' and start thinking 'skiing'. A lot of places don't bother with summer bike trade as they make so little money.

Snow is where you can make this financially viable.


 
Posted : 06/04/2015 8:11 am
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There's probably an occupation to vacant ratio that would help you determine its viability. How many weeks of the year are other guest houses in the vicinity fully occupied?

Unless of course I've misunderstood your rationale?


 
Posted : 06/04/2015 8:32 am
 iolo
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It would also be a family home paid in cash so no mortgage payments to worry about.
As long as it covered the monthly bills I would be overly concerned about making too much money from it as it wouldn't be my main source of income.
20€ sounds reasonable enough.


 
Posted : 06/04/2015 11:35 am
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I've looked at a few ideas like this (never in Austria). To make it financially viable you need to work really hard - possibly negating the whole benefit of the life change. You say it's not going to be your main income, and will not need a mortgage. That certainly makes it more possible, but here are some things to consider:
- The sort of accommodation you describe is ideally suited to long weekends, or one night trips for people touring but is less popular for week or fortnight long visitors.
-You'll spend a lot of time clearing up after people. You'll spend a lot of time changing beds and doing laundry.
-Customers don't arrive from nowhere so you'll have to spend a lot of time (and possibly money) to market it.
-Customers will do things to piss you off, but they are customers so you need to grin and bear it, not so good when they are in your home!
- Rules and regulations can make simple ideas very complex.
- Just getting bookings, managing payments, dealing with any refunds etc is time consuming. Expect to pay any Web agency a noticeable fee for their leads.
- Even if you have all year round opportunity their will be weeks when everyone wants to be there and weeks when almost nobody does. A fixed price doesn't make sense. These might also be times when you least want to be running around after customers.
- You need to look at what you are selling, people get the "very cheap" and "luxury" ends of the market. The bit in the middle is where problems start!
- eating in in the evenings is not essential, but your visitors will probably expect some sort of breakfast in the morning. They could help themselve... But you'll need to cost it in.
- many providers make life easy for guests by having ski hire, lift pass deals etC. Setting those up and managing them takes time.
- Families are a special market. Their wants are very different from the early twenties.
-Your friends and family visiting will take up rooms for paying guests.
- Do you want to deal with all that crap after a day at work?


 
Posted : 06/04/2015 4:06 pm