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After reading the thread about the guy who had the accident in the FOD yesterday and was very kindly supported by what sounds like a few people with first aid knowledge....it got me thinking if I had an accident what's the chances someone would be there to help?
I had first aid training by the red cross last month for work and one of he reasons for putting myself forward was for when I was out on the trails. I feel in a good place to help others & was just curious.
Yep, first aider at work for about 6 years now.
A plaster and eye wash, (grit in eye) is the worst I've ever had to deal with.
I'm OUTDOOR first aid trained, and pedantic 😛
Appointed first aider.
Outdoor first aid cert and Mountain Rescue
Have done my TBL it's compulsory for it. Everyone should do something, problem is you do slowly forget if you don't keep it up.
Morphine and tourniquet trained, no worries
Me, I carry a proper first aid kit too, everytime I ride mtb.
Outdoor/BASP/REC etc 1st aid 2 or 4 day every 3 years, for the last 20 years here...
Yep, appointed first aider, doing my refresher course in a few weeks. Very useful skill to have IME, often because it gives you the confidence to act decisively.
Best usage was when 2 handed on a 32ft boat leaving a marina. My dad slipped and headbutted a winch 🙁 Got back into the berth OK but then went into medical shock and lost conciousness whilst leaking plenty of blood Kept calm and dealt with it effectively, which would have been unlikely without training. Priceless knowledge...
Yep, thankfully a requirement of the job, so all courses aid for by the company!
First aid trained, but not outdoor specific. Not sure how much use it'd be on the trails... Worst I've had to deal with? Panic attack. That's scary.
Battlefield first aid trained, you don't want me near you if you have an accident!
Yes - Geography teacher so needed for fieldtrips.
GB
Ballistic First Aid trained including de-fib.
More courses than I care to remember.
First aid including defib.
Sounds like quite a few, I was hoping this was be the case, I'm only trained basic compared to some but I feel I know enough to benefit, must start taking a better kit out though.
Outdoor thingy too. I've had great arguments with Mrs Druidh (trained nurse) about what should and should not be attempted as part of first aid 🙂
raccoon you sound like the man to be ridding with if you go down in action!
It's usually me that's down on a ride!
I'm fairly well trained (ALS/ATLS) but tbh if I saw you convulsing on the trail side with blood and teeth spewing out your mouth, I'd keep on riding as:
a)my riding time is pretty valuable and I'm never gonna get a KOM stopping to scoop back in your brains, and
b)blood and bone marrow is a right faff to get out of 661 comp gloves.....
DrP. 😉
Yes, with regular re assessments.
One thing being "trained" and another thing being able to use it correctly.
Ive see some bizarre things from first aiders, who haven't used their knowledge for a while, or make it up as they go along.
outdoor first aid certificate here. used it plenty of times to patch up clients on tour.
A while back as part of mtq1. We're trained to deal with electric shock at work but not much more. Could be tempted by an outdoor/mtb specific course.
I'm with Dr P, if your numbers up....
Trained Firt Aid at work and also Defib. trained.
Also ride with lads who are Trauma trained.
I always carry a small First Aid kit.
It's interesting to see the differences in approach that you get taught in courses which are aimed at different groups.
Outdoors courses that I've been on recommended reducing fractures and splinting them in a straight position, whereas the sport specific one recommended splinting as you found the injury unless pulses were absent. There were differing approaches to dealing with hypothermia and shock.
Full St Johns First aid trained, with 2 refreshers a year, always carry full (but small) first aid kit with me - dealt with Leisure Cyclist who had a nasty hand graze after coming off her hired bike on the rough gravel paths round Rutland Water about a month ago - does concern me the amount of people who ride without gloves / helmets
Yep. The job as trained me up to do airways and all sorts
So, what's the difference between indoor and outdoor first aid? Shirley first aid is first aid innit?
You dont get many people falling off cliffs indoors and conversely you dont get many people being electrocuted up a mountain.
But a fall from height is a fall from height and an electrocution is an electrocution regardless of where they happen. I guess that they just concentrate on the things more likely to happen in a given environment and focus on thems.
I always love my first aid training as they are never told the nature of our job as all our courses are in a cosy office.
FA trainer - Don't move the casualty.
Me - So we let them drown then?
FA trainer - Pardon
Me - If we don't move them they'll probably drown.
FA trainer - Why?
Me - We spend most of out time standing in or working near water often up to our knees and in winter often with a chainsaw in our hands.
FA trainer - Oh I wasn't told that.
Thats when they go into serve bleeding and drowning 🙂
Hmm, whadda bout indoor climbing walls and electric cable cars then??? 😉
First aid at work now but done various outdoor ones over the years.
Done dislocated shoulders, a dislocated knee, head injuries and basic bandaging for real but always close to help.
Appointed first aider. needed it for myself had a little off today on the red run at forest pines.
You dont get many people falling off cliffs indoors and conversely you dont get many people being electrocuted up a mountain.
Whilst I agree that outdoor, and indoor first aid are different, the general principles (i.e. ABC) are the same, so either is better than nothing.
It's DRSABCD now and you need AVPU, got to have the AVPU.
Interesting to observe paramedics when they arrive on the scene..
First Aider @ work for a good few years with yearly refreshers including scenario incidents. Defib trained, electric shock and Entonox pain relief gas 😀
Also trained as a trainer for RLSS when I was involved with kids school swimming club, not done that for a few yrs now 🙄
I have a mate who is a paramedic and he tells me that you have a higher chance of survival if you are picked up by an ambulance which has two technicians on it rather than a technician and a paramedic. He claims it's because the technicians will go for the scoop and run approach rather than the stay and play approach that the paramedic may take. Obviously generalised to the point of being absurd, but interesting all the same.
Every year with work, started with useful stuff you might come across in every day life now, fractures, catastrophic bleeds, tourniquets and basic triage
Me 😀 more courses than someone from Basildon with an Ask voucher....
My missus is a nurse/medic in the Forces and she suggested I went on a Red Cross first aid course specifically aimed at parents of babies and toddlers - I can't recommend it enough. She packs my bike bag with various military bandages just in case.
Used to be although never had to use it. As a chemist, we got trained in the usual First Aid at Work stuff but with extra emphasis on poisons and also courses in how to administer oxygen. I was due to go on a de-fib course but then I got made redundant...
My FA cert hasn't been renewed in about 5 or 6 years. 🙁