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None of this [i]matters[/i]. I just find it a bit difficult to understand why anyone feels the need to do it wrong, as it's so easy to do right. 🙂
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No pot belly on me, Im a racing snake at 10 stone. You ever used one omitn?? Without a doubt the best bag i've ever used.
Why would you want a Wingnut when you could just use bottles and jersey pockets!?
I imagine the people who feel the need to use a Camelbak are the same ones who use a full laden 30l pack for a 45 minute spin on the MTB!
I just cannae be bothered to empty everything out of my bag, and i dont like bottle cages 😉 Much easier to just pick up the bag and go than get it out and put it in all the wee pockets.
You ever used one omitn??
No. I don't holiday in Florida.
And that means...??
(sorry, bit dim)
I just cannae be bothered to empty everything out of my bag
'Everything' being a couple of tubes, a CO2 pump, £10, and a small multi tool? (In my case at least!)
i have a tennis ball tube cut in half and the top pushed over the bottom,
it fits perfectly into the rear bottle cage and can carry tube co2 stuff tyre levers etc,, it can be pulled apaet to make it bigger to fit spare tyre,,
and you can just pull it out of the cage when you arrive or to put on another bike
True, i have only just started this road riding malarkey (literally yesterday!) No doubt my views will change...
And that means...??
In my mind's eye I see palid people with bumbags on waddling around theme parks.
This is not the elegant aesthetic one ought to be striving for on a road bike.
haha! aye, true to say they do look like bumbags. I shall worry about the aesthetics later, I still ride in baggies 😉 Should i get lycra shorts?? do they make that much difference?
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No not scratching butt but grabbing an energy bar etc.
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Awwww Bless, mountain bikers finding out about real cycling, it really warms the cockles....
Not sure i agree with that one 😉
I though mtbink was the real cycling...
Considering you need fitness AND skill to be good.
I don't know where this idea that riding on the road doesn't require skill comes from.
Watch good people riding fast on the road. They pedal very, very fluidly at high cadences, they corner incredibly economically and very tightly, carrying a lot of speed. The difference down hill between a poor descender and a good one is enormous. Also, the amount of skill involved in working in a group of riders on the road to share the work, reduce the effect of wind on the group and sustain high speeds is considerable. Finally, there is a great deal to racing in bunches and finding a way through in finishes particularly.
Someone with fitness but little skill won't necessarily be shown up as vividly as someone who, say, can't get through a tricky rock garden without dabbing or who bottles a big see-saw offroad, but you'd notice if you went out with someone of equal fitness on the road who was a better rider, no doubt about it. 🙂
I don't know where this idea that riding on the road doesn't require skill comes from.
Or that MTBers have fitness and skills...
Maybe it was a little sweeping 😉
Or that MTBers have fitness and skills...
I think you'll find most of them have both, they just don't post on here 😉
I think you'll find most of them have both, they just don't post on here
I think there are alot of MTBers who think they are fit, as a mountain biker i am reasonably fit but if i go out with the Roadies i get a kicking because i am not that fit. Fitnesses being the ability to ride a bike quickly from a to b.
Skill is a different thing, you can be a skilled MTBer and be crap on the road and vice versa.
Do you need OCD to be a "proper" roadie? All that stuff about latex gloves and what should go in what pocket? Seems a touch anal?
The whole point of having things in particular pockets is to stop the constant, incessant stopping and emptying out on the ground of bloody camelbacks which seems to accompany most group mtb rides.
I'm very skilled on my road bike. I get on it, I pedal, I reach my destination. SKILL!
Any more than that I ain't interested in achieving.
By the way - carrying things in a back pocket is dangerous. I got hit by a car and knocked up in the air. Came down on my back.
Camelbak saved my spine fom serious damage, but the tool in my back pocket chipped the bone on impact with the road. Never carried anything in jersey pockets since.
"[i]carrying things in a back pocket is dangerous. I got hit by a car and knocked up in the air[/i]"
interesting Daily Mail knee-jerk logic there, it's not the carrying things in the back pocket that's dangerous, it's the cars that are dangerous
i had to take avoiding action from cars 4 times during yesterdays ride, the pointy items in my back pocket at no point threatened to cause me any harm
Yeah, real Daily Mail me.
So only cars cause you to fall off your bike? When you're going down hills as steep as you claim, I'm sure thats not the case!
where have i claimed to go down steep hills?
i have crashed many many times, most of the time it's been my fault, some times it hasn't, as collateral damage i have been cut, bruised and scarred by chainrings, pedals, bars, bar-ends, quick-releases, stems, brake-levers and pointy things in my back-pockets, none of which i have removed later because they are 'dangerous'
one ton of car, in the right hands, can be quite dangerous though
Here: "I'd advise against a Camelbak for carrying stuff... it will be awkward on any descents - wanting as it will to overtake your helmet."
That would take heck of a steep hill!
That would take heck of a steep hill!
If you ride all 'sit-up-and-beg' maybe, for those of us who can actually bend our back its pretty easy to get your head right down onto the stem in an aero tuck style.
for road rides I have a saddle bag like the one below as I don't have pockets in my t-shirt and I don't like having too much in the pockets of my baggies
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i think that you are incorrectly inferring any steepness
as has been mentioned before, on a descent (steep or not), you're most likely to want to be in the drops, where your back will be flat, or even angled towards the bars, because the drops will be lower than the saddle (unless it's a "sportive" bike, obviously) causing the Camelbak to shuffle forwards
you can also be in the drops on the flat, or on an uphill gradient (if you're feeling chipper), or sprinting, when a Camelbak will also want to bunny-hop your head, or in the case of sprinting, want to have humpy sex with it
humpy sex
Is this something everyone can experience?
...and, as has been noted a couple of times, you don't need all that rubbish that folk insist on taking in their Camelbaks when out on the road.
I've just done 75 miles and took a mini pump on the frame, a tube, wallet and phone and 4 gels; no need for space blankets, multi tools, or anything else.
Two bottles though; warm one today, and many lovely ladies to see.
Light weight rack and a very nice [url= http://www.arkel-od.com/panniers/tailrider/overview.asp?fl=1&site=uk ]Arkel rack-top-bag[/url]. Can take enough supplies for a long ride unsupported.
I'd like to buy a fancier road bike, but 99.9999% of them don't have rack mounts.
a rack top bag? surely thats only appropriate on a 90's dawes galaxy? hence why no 'nice' frames have rack mounts 😆
I don't know where this idea that riding on the road doesn't require skill comes from.
Triathletes.