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Scrotes,thieves and people who dare to leave there council estates.Hope non of their fleas hop down to the posh boys trails as well .
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Scrotes,thieves and people who dare to leave there council estates.Hope non of their fleas hop down to the posh boys trails as well .
I'll bite, seeing as I gave you the benefit of doubt on your first contribution.
You seem to have some serious issues with anyone that has made themselves a bit better off in life than (presumably) you have. And with this hang up, seem to be condoning nasty little shits threatening people with violence to take their stuff - just because they are poorer and somehow in your pathetic little mind this redresses the balance.
Grow up you prick, you should have listened at school.
Posted with love from a council estate yoof whose parents were on the dole and had sod all growing up. Never felt the need to rob people though, just saying....
The notion of this being something that folk out riding a bike need to be aware of is just nuts to me, 😲
The notion of this being something that folk out riding a bike need to be aware of is just nuts to me, 😲
Don't worry, just hand over your belongings like a good citizen, because you have it and they don't.
I detest thieves - house robbers, bikes on trails robbers, blokes on site taking peoples tools. It's not yours, leave it the **** alone
The notion of this being something that folk out riding a bike need to be aware of is just nuts to me, 😲
Agreed. Never used to give a thought to it.
The notion of this being something that folk out riding a bike need to be aware of is just nuts to me, 😲
Agreed. Never used to give a thought to it.
The above post re scrotes not getting up till noon is spot on. I cycle down a disused railway track c8am and it's fine, dog walkers, school kids, cyclists. Same journey in the evening it's a war zone, there's been a few assaults so it's cctv d up the whole length. Scrotes just wear balaclavas or full face helmets.
Sad really, they are just kids. They ll pick on the wrong target one day and learn a pretty painful lesson.
Some top tips here
Posted with love from a council estate yoof whose parents were on the dole and had sod all growing up. Never felt the need to rob people though, just saying....
I kinda think that may have been the point MCMD was trying to make.
I kinda think that may have been the point MCMD was trying to make.
Were they?
Seemed to me that they were intimating that all the poor little neds that try and nick someones bike with violence, were all victims of society and making excuses for them, whilst attempting to troll anyone that has a dim view on this.
Anyway, I bit - apologies for my rant, was a few Peroni deep
Our next door neighbour's 16 year old son had an attempted mugging for his bike on the Waggonways near us in North Tyneside.
I was just riding there yesterday, not a comfortable part of the ride. Pleasantly traffic free, but I'd imagine it's prime scrote territory
I live in South Manchester and it is now fairly common to see gangs of lads roaming around 2 or even 3-up on scooters or more powerful bikes, balaclava's on and all the rest of it. It's painfully obvious what they're doing and sometimes you can even see the bolt croppers they openly carry around. I've been sized-up once or twice when just walking down the street but nothing happened, I assume because I look too poor as much as anything else.
I usually road cycle early doors on weekend mornings but on the occasions I am out in the evenings and have stopped for a coffee or some food on my way home on the high street it does sometimes occur to me that it's possibly going to be a problem if they happen to come past at that point and my bike's leaning against a cafe wall or whatever.
A lot of this boils down the age old concept of not displaying external signs of wealth when in certain environments. Don't wear a fancy watch when out on the tiles in a city centre, don't take a full fat wallet out when visiting Barcelona and don't take your nice bike down urban canal towpaths etc. (insert clip of the American tourist from Trainspotting)
I'm in the fortunate position of owning an ebike but i'd not take it out to Delamere on my own in an evening or anywhere else that blends urban and rural environments for reasons others have stated. Its probably why my cheap hardtail is by far my most ridden bike. Plus i dont wanna get fat 😉
My friend's 15 year old son was knocked off his bike by a driver in a small peugeot van yesterday. He's OK but they bundled his bike in to the back of the van and sped off, he's all over FB doing his detective work (ridiculous amount of bot posts from companies offering to find his 'asset').
Only around the corner me in North Worcestershire/Solihull border.
Esholt woods are close to me and I've always thought they were dodgy vibe-wise for the 25 years I've lived out here - I basically don't ride down there anymore.
One of my friends had his biked robbed and was pushed in the Leeds Liverpool canal (Leeds end) when commuting - maybe 20 years ago so not a new thing, was a standard commuting hybrid so maybe not of interest these days. I don't know whether it's better now with more bike traffic but it was a bit bleak commuting home in the twilight back in the day
The OP was about how common bike muggings are in reality vs the perception. What I get from the posts on this thread is that there are geographical hotspots for it, due to a mixture of generally higher-crime areas and also places where people regularly go with really nice bikes. The middle of that venn diagramme is the very worst place to go alone and late in the day. I'd guess a lot of the perps are fairly local and probably feel comfortable being pretty brazen or just hanging around waiting.
Targeting people commuting seems more random, especially just knocking someone over on a main road and grabbing the bike. That doesn't feel like a local teenage opportunist thing, hard to guard against that kind of madness.
The late in the day thing is really telling.
Where we are there are loads of scroters on scooters and quads etc. There always has been and yes they're trouble causers because we're not near a city but we are a medium town - there doesn't seem to be the amount of muggings etc that I know of.
Must also be city thing/near city thing. Maybe is city is needed to dodge out of the way.
Also very issues actually in the woods themselves because they're highly populated around here with tourists.
Targeting people commuting seems more random, especially just knocking someone over on a main road and grabbing the bike.
I'm not sure it was ever proved but with the Fallowfield Loop spate of thefts, there were rumours of 1 or 2 chavs on lookout duty at one point phoning through to the main mugging group further down.
"Guy on decent bike coming, get ready" type stuff.
It wasn't indiscriminate muggings; most people would get past the group no issues (they'd actually be quite polite!) but then the lone guy on a decent bike would be kicked off it, they'd grab it and scarper.
Me and mate got done at knife point in Temple Newsam Park in East Leeds.
And yes, they rode off in the direction of the local sh*thole estate.
Depressing how much I'm hearing or reading about this.
It's the kind of things I assumed stayed in the wilds of Mexico.
Still I generally hope it stays in the big urban areas to give some context.
Although I've had two run-ins in 30 years.
Depressing how much I'm hearing or reading about this.
It's the kind of things I assumed stayed in the wilds of Mexico.
Still I generally hope it stays in the big urban areas to give some context.
Although I've had two run-ins in 30 years.
Me and mate got done at knife point in Temple Newsam Park in East Leeds.
And yes, they rode off in the direction of the local sh*thole estate.
F***!
Is that recent? I'm in Leeds, sometimes around/through Temple Newsham on the gravel bike ...
Thanks for hoping it stays in the big urban areas rone.Living in the centre of a collapsed town, it makes me glad to know you have our backs!
I,ve never had a bike stolen in 25 years.Its called being street wise.
Still I generally hope it stays in the big urban areas to give some context.
It doesn't. A couple of years ago we had a spate of bike muggings in the quiet lanes of the Kent North Downs.
For obvious reasons these quiet lanes are attractive to muggers and if they patrol certain lanes they can be sure to get a regular stream of cyclists on expensive road bikes.
I don't think that motorcyclists with pillion riders are interested in heavy MTBs
Another one in Leicester yesterday, the report doesnt go into detail, but it is usually ‘knock over cyclist, then steal his/her bike’ when the story comes out a little later.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg42zml9g1o
One in June, where a woman was seriously injured, and was close to death.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8d18vpzqeo
Thanks for hoping it stays in the big urban areas rone.Living in the centre of a collapsed town, it makes me glad to know you have our backs!
Not really what I was getting at.
I live in a de-industrialised town with a fair bit of deprivation. I was just referring to the fact I don't want it to spread. Clearly cities are slightly more rich pickings etc.
I don't wish ill on anyone and I've had two attempts myself - I just don't want the knife crime and violence of a big city.
One reason I bought my eMTB was to ride out of the city for evening rides in the local woods, which I'd otherwise need to use my car for, which in turn made it too much faff. I'd done it on my normal bike a few times (which is a stretch), but mostly on weekends.
It turns out, I don't really feel safe doing it, so I rarely go.
Groups hanging around doing nothing in particular, sometimes sitting around with bikes laid down blocking the way, Surron riders one or a few, dogs out on their own, rough looking people sitting around in cars doing nothing in places there's no reason to be stopped.
there were rumours of 1 or 2 chavs on lookout duty at one point phoning through to the main mugging group further down.
I've seen a suspect lookout 2-3 times. Bridleway out of the urban fringe village heading into the countryside, just a little down from the gate there's a chav just there hanging around.
Reminds me of the guy touring on a penny farthing who got robbed at gunpoint after camping for the night. Ecuador.
" When they get to within a few yards I realise something is wrong. No smiles, animals on the hunt. The first guy who is about 35 reaches into his pocket and pulls out a gun, this is serious. The other younger man with stave in hand helps drag me out of the tent. With the gun to my head I´m in no mood to argue against their blows. My options are limited, stay calm and pacify. "
https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/?o=3d2&page_id=447413&v=I
On the other hand this was on his second round the world tour. I guess no matter how carefull you are your luck sometimes just runs out.
As well as CO2 cartridges, is pepper spray the answer for urban riding....
Wilcos cable lock ready for legitimate usage .
A couple of years ago we had a spate of bike muggings in the quiet lanes of the Kent North Downs.
For obvious reasons these quiet lanes are attractive to muggers and if they patrol certain lanes they can be sure to get a regular stream of cyclists on expensive road bikes.
If that's Layham's, I've referenced that a couple of times as well. Narrow lane, high hedges, no houses, no escape routes.
Still I generally hope it stays in the big urban areas to give some context.
Cities have lots of people, police, CCTV, lots of attention to attract if you start screaming. I doubt very much anyone will ever come to your aid but people will probably at least start filming it on their phones or calling the police...
I mean sure, it's also easy to escape into traffic but people will see you dragging a bike alongside you. It's higher risk.
Edge of the city as you get into the more rural areas - regular stream of cyclists heading out that way (usually on expensive road bikes), limited CCTV / housing, fewer people around to clock anything unusual. That's usually the more dangerous spots, often because it feels safer so people take fewer precautions.
Yeah. Mine was a chase on the edge of Sheffield. Didn't catch us.
Did have a bike taken in front of us in Clumber park once - but that was random and no violence/force involved. But we did get it back.
This area (Sherwood Forest) defo has its problems but we don't hear of much of this sort of stuff really.considering how much cycling and walking there is.
If that's Layham's, I've referenced that a couple of times as well. Narrow lane, high hedges, no houses, no escape routes.
Beddlestead Lane is what I had in mind but it was more than likely the same mugging gang.
If you hang around at the top of Beddlestead on a weekend day it is never very long before a cyclist on an expensive road bike appears after the long climb.
Fairly exhausted they are less likely to offer effective resistance in the quiet lane. Lone female cyclist were among those targeted.
I worry about this sometimes as I cycle back from mid-week MTB night rides. Once I had two MXers ride alongside for a bit looking me up and down - balaclavas, no number plates etc - then they swerved off onto pavement. Thing is I often have a folding 12" trailsaw or mini-chainsaw in my backpack due to all the ash dieback. Should prob leave it there and let them take the bike, but with adrenaline flowing and stuff who knows whats going to happen.
Don't forget your old Bombers lin the garage everyone!
Re- Delamere, police used a drone to follow some offenders and saw them loading their own rides into a van then visited/raided their home addresses.
I live on the outskirts of a small town in Stirlingshire and have been solo riding my relatively expensive (to me), mountain bikes around here in all weather at all times of day and night for getting on 35yrs.
It's only been this year that I've started to feel uneasy as I've become aware of the increase in balaclava clad Suron riders using the local woods as a rat run between villages while (I assume), out on their errands.
I haven't heard of any local muggings, but it depresses me that I'm actually having to consider the risk of mugging alongside my usual worries of Stickmen/women and psychotic Squirrels.
It's not a very nice world we're living in at the moment. 😦