Was out on the fatbike the other day with the hotpogs on, and it was fantastic- I get super cold hands so being completely comfy and cosy is something I don't usually get to do. But, I do find them a bit troublesome and distracting on harder/rougher stuff, no matter what I've done with the straps and bungees they always tend to shake forwards at the bar tips and basicall work down over my hands, and then they're way more obstructive and, I think mostly really distracting and offputting. Like the pogie equivalent of a loose kneepad.
I think it's just the nature of the design, they're attached at the inside of hte bars but there's nothing really stopping them from rotating around that point except for trying to pull them hard onto the tips of the bars, and at some point that stopped cutting it. Not a criticism, I don't think they had this sort of riding in mind when they made them! I'd really like to use them more on the big bike for that sort of riding, but I've never quite been able to get it to work out, mostly just for this reason.
So, does anyone have any clever tricks/hacks? Attaching the ends of the bungees together so they pull the pogies "across" the bike was effective to a point, frinstance. They're as tight as I can make them otherwise. I was wondering about just sticking a selftapper through the ends and into my plastic bar-ends, just to hold it in position, but it feels like that's going to have some drawbacks as far as getting "into" them too, since a little movement is definitely helpful... I know some people make brackets/frames for inside and that looks great for what you might call "normal pogie riding" but I don't really fancy it for the harder stuff...
Can you secure them to the bars to stop them rotating? My Revelate ones have a foam gasket that goes around the bar/clamps the cables. A Velcro strap is tightened to keep the cold air out/stop them moving. A bungee inside fixes to a bar end plug - they don’t move. Maybe a piece of foam pipe lagging and a cable tie around the bars?
OK so I guess it's hard to follow quite what I mean, they're really well secured on the "inside" of the bar, near the controls, no problem there. They don't rotate around the bar, they sort of pivot on that well secured "inside" of the bar where the controls are, so the outermost part of hte pogies- the bit that sticks out past the end of the bars- pivots around that and can move forward and backwards.
You mentioned a bungee inside that fixes to a bar end plug- do I understand correctly and it's connected to the plug at the very end/tip of the bars? That sounds like what I need to do basically, one way or another.
I know what you mean. It's like the outer end of the pogis drops away from the bar a bit so less of your arm is in it. I've thought about it a few times but it's never been so much of a problem that I've actually done something about it. My thought was to sew a loop of elastic onto the inside of the pogie - at the bar-end end - and just loop that around the grip. That would, I think, keep the pogie in place withot it being firmly attached.. The length of the loop would have to be just right as you don't want the pogie hard against your fingers either - that would just get cold.
I’ve just gaffer taped my Pogies to my bars to stop them shifting but haven’t tested them yet.
Can you fix the Pogies to the bar end plug with a self tapper? Or fit some type of hand guard inside the Pogie?
Or maybe some old school bar ends could do the job if not too long?
Yeah, selftapper is my first instinct but it's not ideal... I wonder if self adhesive velcro might do it?
My pogies (45nrth) have a hole for the bar end plug and is thus secured.
Could you just make a hole, sew a washer in and use a hope bar end plug.
I wonder if self adhesive velcro might do it?
If you can get it to stick for any length of time.
But now I’m thinking you need to do something discrete with magnets. Could be inside the bar end plug and invisible when the pogie is not fitted. Bit like those Leatt hoods and helmet magnets.
Or MadBillMcMad’s idea is sound if you don’t have one piece grips and plugs
I've done the self tapping screw option on my GFs basic neoprene ponies, it works fine, but make sure to use some appropriately sized washers so the fabric doesn't rip.
More "serious" pogies will often have a dedicated hole and plug like MBMcM suggests above, somewhere that does clothing alterations could probably put these in for you.
I wonder (and I think what dovebiker was getting at, maybe) is that if you secure the inner, particularly the side nearest you, they won't be able to pivot outwards.
I don't know how stiff hotpogs are though - I have the alpkit pogies and the problem is they're too floppy and get pushed forward when I put my hands in. I've stiffened them with plastic, but considering adding a bar end plug. Thing is my current grips don't have open ends.
Put a bit of string on the outside edge of the opening.
Run the string up your sleeve and down the other sleeve.
Affix the loose end in a similar manner to the first pogie.
Sorted.
As an added benefit you won't lose them.
Mmm
The obvious is bar end plug and hole in pogie.
Could you turn the pogie inside out and in the corner that would sit at the bar end or very near the corner sew on a Velcro strap or a very small loop that you could put elastic string thru (tent pole cord) so that when they are the right way round you could loop this round the outer grip end , poss sound like the little loop and elastic cord might be better
Or something that would use a stretchy rubber oring to clip it to the bar
Or a bit of material you could clamp to a lock on grip with an outer clamp
Sorting my pogies out was on a list, of two things, to do in the summer while I didn't need them. Needless to say, neither got done, so no time like last week before it snowed the present.
New stiffeners out of thin chopping board to hold the shape, and holes for bar end plugs. Found so Ergon grips with push-in plugs in the spares box so actually gonna use them.
Need to add poppers to stop the through-draft between bar and brake master cylinder.
Thanks folks- i think the "bar end through the pogie" is probably the best option for permanence, but I'm going to see if I can get close to that with it still being simpler to remove, or swap between bikes, going to try a bit of self-adhesive velcro first. That'll be a bit crap, the adhesive never really works but I get the feeling it doesn't actually need much to hold it so fingers crossed!
I want them to be easy to swap too since I use them on my commuter when it's cold, and I also try to bring them inside, because if they start at outside (garage) temperature then it kind of defeats the point for short rides. I figure a push-in bar plug is as quick a way as any.