Hope vs Halo wheels
 

[Closed] Hope vs Halo wheels

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Hi all

Assuming the same wait to get them, is there any reason not to buy Halo wheels over a set of Hopes? They look to be decent VFM


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 3:20 pm
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It says 'Developed in the Uk' So by this do they mean made in China 😕


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 3:32 pm
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Halo Wheels are Novatec hubs and Kinlin rims - pinned rim joint is inferior.
Hope wheel has a welded rim, plus Hope hubs. £ for £ I’d have Hope.
Doesn’t mean Halo aren’t good, just not as good.


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 3:39 pm
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I couldn't comment about the rims, but I used a set of the Halo MT hubs with Supadrive and built them into both my current sets of wheels.

They spin better than hopes - possibly a different seal on the bearings (which are not stainless), appear to be manufactured equally as well as my previous pro4s, have a pawl system that doesn't break its own springs, picks up quicker and has a steel axle that doesn't flex under load so that the drive ring bites into the free-hub body, plus they're a bit cheaper, as are the spares.

Of course, you can't get sniffy at other peoples equipment choices if you don't have Hope, but I make my choices on value and technical merits. For me, the Halo hubs are better than Hopes, and I had been running hopes previously since the days of the sport hub.


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 4:07 pm
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wouldn't bother with hope unless you really really want a bling colour.


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 4:28 pm
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Our Halo Vortex wheels are really good. Very well built and doing well.

Up until eldest_oab didn't tighten a new cassette, battered around Pleny for the day listening to it working lose, then went and cranked it up over tight in the evening, beer in hand...
Two weeks later I discovered he had split the freehub!

Which reminds me, I need to order a new freehub, that wheel is sitting doing nothing at the moment.

To add - halo have lots of parts you can order, very like hope, and unlike many other brands.


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 4:34 pm
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For nigh on £500/pair surely you could get custom wheels with whatever rims you wanted?

If you're not being snobbish about brands why not just go to the logical conclusion and get the same hubs unbranded for even less?

pinned rim joint is inferior.

20 years ago when rim brakes would catch it on every revolution yep, these days it makes no odds. Stans don't weld them, and I'm not sure DT do either now. The joint is under compression so there's no strength gained.


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 5:18 pm
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Love my hope hubs, can run them qr, 142 or boost with adapters. Easy to maintain and service. Brilliant customer service and spares are always available at most lbs. But each to their own.

For £500 I'd be looking at a 2nd hand pair if hope pro 4s on some Dt Swiss rims of your choice


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 5:34 pm
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For £500 I’d be looking at a 2nd hand pair if hope pro 4s on some Dt Swiss rims of your choice

Could buy brand new wheel set for that


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 5:43 pm
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It at the moment,not a lot of wheels in stock.


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 5:51 pm
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Stans don’t weld them, and I’m not sure DT do either now.

The higher end DT rims or wheels that have 2 letters at the front (EX 511's or XM 1700's for instance) are welded, the more basic ones with only 1 letter at the front (M 502's or E 1900's for instance) are sleeved, which is a bit more sustantial than basic pinning but cheaper than welding.

Only practical downside with sleeved rims apart from a little bit of added weight is that you need to run wide enough rim tape so the sealant doesn't go through the join, it's not enough to just cover the spoke holes.


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 5:59 pm
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Dt Swiss , just need to find a some star ratchet ones and not the cheaper 3 paw ones.


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 6:24 pm
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Have you considered other wheelsets like hunt?


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 7:34 pm
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Some halo hubs are made by chosen, much the same quality as novatec - a notch below hope.

You can get kinlin on novatec built much cheaper.

I'd do that or buy DT ratchet hubs. Nothing in between makes much sense.


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 8:40 pm
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Fitwheels.eu will pretty much let you take your pick of DT Swiss build options for under £500 (more for 240s of course)


 
Posted : 11/04/2021 9:56 pm