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Hi All,

I know, I know, Its another tyre question. But I currently run a Super tacky wired HR, but now I am converting to tubeless I was looking for some thing tubeless ready, 2bliss from specialized or similar. What do people run as their front tyre? Most of my riding is general xc, trail riding around glentress, inners etc. Where is gets very muddy at times!
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Posted : 27/08/2012 11:34 am
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Tubeless Highrollers.

Or your supertackys with a conversion kit.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 11:36 am
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HRII or High roller


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 12:07 pm
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The tyre you have already can be run tubeless. Or buy a new one.

I like bontrager tyres for tubeless.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 12:32 pm
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They're a bugger to find but the Specialized Clutch Control is their Highroller. As wide as a HR 2.5 though. Similiarly the Butcher Control is their Minion. But, they're possibly kinda overkill for what you describe and they don't have a sticky everyday trail tyre that I like (Eskar is good on the back but not that grippy)

I'm assuming you're on 2.35s? So that's basically a 2.1 from manufacturers that own a ruler. Tried Kenda's Nevegals? Or possibly a Nobby Nic (not a fan, but ymmv)


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 1:12 pm
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I have been running vanilla Maxiss High Rollers as tubeless for a few years now. If you like the High Roller then there is no need to change to go tubeless.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 1:26 pm
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Very true. But personally I wouldn't drag around a wirebead highroller ST for this sort of riding, heavy and slow for what they are. Worth changing even if just to a Minion or similiar to do the same job better.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 1:32 pm
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I went from the normal High Roller on the rear/Minion DHF combo to a pair of Clutch SX's and have been very pleased with them. Lighter and I don't really notice any extra rolling resistance. Last way longer as well, my oldest one still has square edges on the knobs!


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 1:34 pm
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Hmmmm re rolling resistances... I had a pair of SX Clutches on the Hemlock for our alps trip. Fantastic tyres, grip for days and tough as old boots. But discovering thta on the downhill tarmac section from Tignes to St Foy I had to pedal pretty much all the time or I'd stop, while everyone else was merrilly freewheeling along at 30mph, was irritating :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 1:43 pm
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Dudes - the "chunder" is spesh's HR copy not thr "clutch"

Single ply 60a DHF 2.35 would be my choice for front tyre for everything that still involves riding uphill in the tweed valley all year round. It really doesn't get all that muddy there


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 1:58 pm
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The Clutch is the Chunder's replacement. Or is supposed to be anyway, they've still not stopped selling the Chunder as far as I can tell.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 2:20 pm
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They may well have stopped making chunders but the clutch is still nothing like a highroller.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 2:57 pm
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Guess we'll have to agree to disagree there- I went from HR 2.5s to the SX Clutches and afaic they do the same job, in much the same way- well, the clutch does it better, less all-or-nothing and faster rolling.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 3:40 pm
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They do the same job ie. Are both mtb tyres :oll: but they don't behave the same, or even similarly fir that matter.
Didn't you notice they are two hugely different tread designs?
If so, you clearly need to learn a thing or two about how tyre treads work but if you can't be bothered you should probably go back to recommending nevegals for everything, at least that was funny ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 4:14 pm
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Heh- you might want to look up the page and see what I actually recommended ๐Ÿ˜‰ I still use a Nevegal most of the time, best allrounder I've found for a trailbike, once slightly deknobbled anyway.

Of course the tread pattern's different, but what counts is what happens when they're on the dirt- there's different approaches to making tyres after all. Clutch to me does away with the big failings of the highroller, which does make them act different but to me is just an improvement in performance. But I guess for some folks, that's what they like about Highrollers?


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 4:29 pm
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Michelin Wildrock'r is available in a proper UST version if you still want a dedicated UST tyre, and it's quite similar in looks and performance to the single ply High Rollers in my experience. They size quite big though, 2.25" is wider than a 2.35" Maxxis.

Normal Maxxis do work well in a tubeless setup though as has been pointed out already.


 
Posted : 27/08/2012 5:13 pm