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[Closed] HELP!!!! Stuck hope Pistons

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I'm trying to service my old pre-mono Hope M4s before Dyfi. Got the front calliper off and in 2 halves. Got the pistons out of one side using the hose-and-a-bike-pump and thumb-over-the-hole method, but they simply WILL NOT budge on the other side (which explains why they've not been working too well recently).

Any suggestions how I can free up the stuck pistons? ANy other way to get them out other than blowing them?


 
Posted : 25/04/2009 12:41 pm
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Oh yes, don't mind trashing the seals as I've got the replacement set to go in...


 
Posted : 25/04/2009 12:42 pm
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It might be a bit late now but I pump them out with the hydraulics all intact. Ie pads out pump the lever till one moves halfway out - hold that in and contimue pumping until the other is halfway out - them split the caliper and pull them the rest of the way


 
Posted : 25/04/2009 1:05 pm
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* I don't know M4s, but consider the following idea

Firstly check that the piston is square to the caliper - this may be the issue

Could you push it further in - in an attempt to break whatever the 'seal' is that is holding it in place - like a gclamp applying gradual pressure, once it moves in (and you could apply lubricant to seals whilst moving them) - it should hopefully move out.

Another idea - as water doesn't compress as much as air could you try pumping in water ?????

An old motorbike trick is to put things in a freezer they shrink - so theoretically this should loose the piston


 
Posted : 25/04/2009 1:08 pm
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bit of dot fluid on the pistons is a good lube


 
Posted : 25/04/2009 2:02 pm
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How much air pressure are you using, it took 120psi (from a track pump) to blow out some pistons from a set of Hayes the other day, I had to seal of the small hole with a bit of rubber and a clamp to generate enough force to blow the pistons out. Wrap some rag around the caliper to stop the piston coming out like a bullet..


 
Posted : 25/04/2009 7:10 pm
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What I did when faced with a similar problem on an old Mini - when even a compressor wouldn't pop the piston out ....

Was ...

Cut a small screw to just fit inside the piston
I then put a nut on it enabling it to be tightened against the inside walls
I could then use pliers to twist the piston to free it
It was a bit fiddly getting it in & tightened but worked well


 
Posted : 25/04/2009 7:20 pm
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Thanks.
Filled it all up and used the fluid to pump the pistons part way out, then managed to get enough air-pressure in it to blow it out.
Seems the lip of one of the cylinders was slightly scored so stopping the piston.

Now I just need to figure out why the hose-connector isn't sealing to the caliper properly. Seems the brass washer just isn't doing it's job.
Any suggestions?


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 5:56 pm
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Try annealing the copper washer

Heat it up until it's cherry red & then quench it in water


 
Posted : 26/04/2009 6:13 pm
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That worked!!

New seals, new hose and new fluid and the brake feels amazing! Now the rear....


 
Posted : 27/04/2009 6:33 am