I'll only condone this if he was a- parked in a cycle lane. Otherwise it's just just vandalism.
Personally I think there's a good chance that the car belonged to him or someone he knew and got permission first. Especially as he filmed it so now the evidence is all over the Internet.
If it was my car I'd be pissed, so to not car about someone else's is a bit hypocritical
Tom kp
Counter culture meets conspicuous consumption.
I think we are-[ discussing vandalism] unless you think riding over a car can't damage it
Well anything can damage anything as the what thing can you not kill someone thread showed. However in this case their is no damage so we cannot really discuss it can we. Even if the car had been damaged I think it would have been criminal damage rather than vandalism IANAL but I did give a definition of vandalism and i dont think it applies here
Because it's just damaging someone elses property for the sole reason of showing off.
The property was not damaged and the owner does not care. I think that not the sole reason either. Given almost every MTB rides "cheeky" at some point that is another odd point to make as many of us are guilty of damaging other peoples things with our tyres.
If it was a video of some yoofs throwing a brick through house window for shits and giggles people would be upset too
That is true. If it was something completely different folk would indeed be reacting in a totally different manner.
I'm not bitter (I did try smack once though.. putrid stuff) I'm just surprised how many people are all upset about some rich ponces car..
either there are more rich ponces and wannabe rich ponces on here than I thought, or some of you have forgotten how to have a bit of pride in where you come from..
I enjoy being povvo.. but if I were wealthy i wouldn't be spending my money on silly expensive cars
I'm honestly surprised on your moral attitudes towards wealth
pretty sickened really
JunkyardBecause it's just damaging someone elses property for the sole reason of showing off.
The property was not damaged and the owner does not care.
There is absolutely no way, no chance in hell the rider could have known the car would be undamaged. And it must be one hell of a shabby car, or has incredibly durable paint/lacquer to not be marked in some way.
I think that not the sole reason either.
So, other than showing off, what other reason is there? Why the camera? His personal pleasure? That's a fair justification is it?.
That is true. If it was something completely different folk would indeed be reacting in a totally different manner.
I guess analogies bounce off some people like a Bmx off a Lamborghini.
(I did try smack once though.. putrid stuff)
Never tried it but have been there when people have. It smells like a mixture of melting plastic and fish. I can't think of many things which smell worse (close thing with a bad shit).
Anyhoo, it's not cool to ride bikes on peoples cars, or faces or children or mobile phones or ring binders. Don't ride on peoples stuffs (unless it's singletrack......then **** 'em)
I'm honestly surprised on your moral attitudes towards wealth
pretty sickened really
That's just weird.
Came here hoping to see vid of someone bunnyhopping over Lambo, preferably at 150mph+, not some tosser messing up a nice car.
If it's just hopping up onto a car this is more fun.
How do those who think the rider should be beaten to death, view the work of banksy?
Should have done a tail whip as he came off the front.. then id have been impressed
Not in the beating to death camp, but aside from being hackneyed sixth form political humour, poorly executed, Banksy is fine with me only if he got the permission of the building owner and any necessary planning consents.
It's couldn't care less
COULDN'T
and breathe...
[i]Would it be ok to be enraged...[/i]
No, I don't think it would. Unless it was definitely a real video of your own car getting actually damaged, then I can't see any possible reason for enragement.
A car's a car's a car.
It's couldn't care lessCOULDN'T
I already said that. 😛
I'm honestly surprised on your moral attitudes towards wealth
pretty sickened really
Are you genuinely sickened that people think its wrong to damage other peoples nice things, or are you on the wind up.
You are either a great troll, or a very odd/bitter individual.
ps...Do you have a nice bike? Something you've bought for enjoyment that you can afford but don't really need? If you do do you mind if I come round and damage it...you know...for a laugh like.
You are either a great troll, or a very odd/bitter individual.
I think it's semi trolling. Yunki is full on, but he's a bit more pragmatic than his comments here would suggest(usually :D)
There is absolutely no way, no chance in hell the rider could have known the car would be undamaged
I agree but this does not make your original claim that the car was damaged true. You are attempting to move the goalposts here.
So we are guessing at reasons for why they did it and that is the only reason you can come up with ? If only your reasons were as imaginative as your analogies 😉 How about he thought it would be fun? he wanted to know if he could. He did it for a bet. he was dared to do it.
I guess analogies bounce off some people like a Bmx of a Lamborghini.
😆 Amusing though that is as a reply its still not a good analogy ; its comparing chalk with cheese.
Maybe it was the Lambo owner that took the vid? 🙄
Wrecker is right.. but the point I'm making is this
In the run up to the election should we be blinded by a person's right to excess?
Should we be sacrificing our own rights as citizens so that the few can exploit the many.. it seems that there's a coupla people here that think it's ok.. why do you think it's ok for some to have excessive wealth? seriously
I'm really not jealous, if I approved of excessive wealth I would very likely be whingeing on about people's right to expect their exuberant property to be considered sacred..
The question I asked at the start of the thread was where do we draw the line?
When is someone's personal wealth unacceptable?
Why do we protect these people?
(I may vote Tory BTW.. just cos they have us on an even keel, and it's a slow steady recovery)
In the run up to the election should we be blinded by a person's right to excess?Should we be sacrificing our own rights as citizens so that the few can exploit the many.. it seems that there's a coupla people here that think it's ok.. why do you think it's ok for some to have excessive wealth? seriously
I'm really not jealous, if I approved of excessive wealth I would very likely be whingeing on about people's right to expect their exuberant property to be considered sacred..
The question I asked at the start of the thread was where do we draw the line?
When is someone's personal wealth unacceptable?Why do we protect these people?
With respect, you are making a crap point or rather one that is irrelevant in this situation.
There maybe well be a debate to be had about how much society should tolerate significant differences in wealth but I really can't see why you feel this vid sparks that debate. All I see is one person (apparently) being disrespectful of another persons property for shits and giggles. I'm afraid I am blind to the value of the car - it's just a nice shape to ride over. There is no deeper point being made here, it's just a young lad acting like a knob.
Anyone who thought riding over someones car was a way to land an intelligent cultural point has lost the argument before it has begun.
It is play. Deep play at that. /end
There is no deeper point being made here,
It would seem to have sparked a deeper debate though
I thought people would laugh.. but it's all 'don't touch my stuff, stuff is sacred.. stuff stuff stuff, it's a wealthy persons stuff too, how very dare he'
Your grandfathers would be turning in their graves
I may vote Tory BTW.
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well, I lol'ed, not my car, owner doesn't mind. No harm done.
I'm voting for you really JY 🙂
Look at what you've done yunki you naughty chap.
my understanding is that the US "could" is supposed to be ironic.
I can't help but feel that the owner of the car doesn't really have much choice about saying that he "could care less".
Maybe it's true, but equally he may have realised that any other response would only ensure that the video and the whole saga went even more viral, no doubt with people like Yunki rubbing their hands with glee at his displeasure, had he expressed it.
Any normal person who doesn't fancy his mug being forwarded around the world wide web for the next fortnight would choose to say they don't care.
Your grandfathers would be turning in their graves
Says who?
B.T.Getty.
On a serious note,if the Lamborghini owner wasn't in on it,I am a pro union Labour voter. BUT,whats the difference between the people running over cars as described and this guy riding over one?
Double post
I am a pro union
Scurries off to SNP/ independence threads with this news 😉
****ing show-off ! I hope your ostentatious second post gets poo rubbed all over itduckman - Member
Double post
**** show-off ! I hope your ostentatious second post gets poo rubbed all over it
My Gentleman's Gentleman would arrange the removal.
JY; I would suggest that I have produced a significant enough body of evidence on here to refute such an allegation
For some context, the Lamborghini in the video looks to be a standard 2002ish Murcielago. You might get one for £60k-£70k these days, depending on milage and how many BMXs have ridden over it.
So while the owner might be an billionaire, he might just be someone who has worked hard to buy a car he really likes. Judging by some of the car threads, there are a lot of people on STW who have cars worth a lot more.
he might just be someone who has worked hard to buy a car he really likes.
Aspirational git. He should accept a place on the waiting list for a Trabant like everyone else.
damaging someone elses property for the sole reason of showing off
Playing the owner at his own game IMO:
"I always park it out front, and I sit outside and eat my dinner and look at my car. And I watch hundreds and hundreds of people take pictures of it,"
Who's the ****ing show off?
BMXers have been riding over parked cars in their videos for years, normally cheap ones of course, this only get attention because, It happens to be the blingy property of one of the West's "top 5%"...
It is just a car, expensive but still just an object, I think the disproportionate response's tell more of a tale about how we're going wrong as a society and have been for maybe the last 60 or so years, people are that caught up in worshiping motor vehicles and other displays of wealth/status they seem to value them above all other things, and in the process lose all perspective you would really hit someone over a mark on your Audi?
Doesn't Parking a quarter of a million Quid's worth of motor on the street during a time of recession and austerity seem a little crass. Just letting everyone see how well you are doing is fantastic, could have employed ten people for a year, invested in the community or found something more positive to do with the money but no he bought a fancy Italian tractor to ponce to the local café in. And tradically half you lot cleary admire such conspicuous consumption...
Riding over it is about the best bit of succinct, social commentary you could hope for... As I'm sure it was intended to be.
For some context, the Lamborghini in the video looks to be a standard 2002ish Murcielago. You might get one for £60k-£70k these days
which to me isn't any more obscene than shelling out 7k on a pushbike. How come the lefties on here aren't up in arms every time dirtybiker (for example) publishes a picture of his 2 obscenely expensive (and admittedly lovely) santa cruzs..same principle IMO, ie people spending the money they've earned on stuff they like.
tpbiker - we should laugh at his expense.. that's all
cookeaa
"I always park it out front, and I sit outside and eat my dinner and look at my car. And I watch hundreds and hundreds of people take pictures of it,"Who's the **** show off?
He parks it where he can see it, so he can enjoy looking at it and keep an eye on it (unsuccessfully it seems). People taking photos is just a byproduct. Should he hide it away from view?
Riding over it is about the best bit of succinct, social commentary you could hope for... As I'm sure it was intended to be.
So when he was doing tricks on a school bus what kind of political statement was he making there?
It is just a car, expensive but still just an object, I think the disproportionate response's tell more of a tale about how we're going wrong as a society and have been for maybe the last 60 or so years, people are that caught up in worshiping motor vehicles and other displays of wealth/status they seem to value them above all other things, and in the process lose all perspective you would really hit someone over a mark on your Audi?
Nothing to do with "Lamborghini" or "car" it's to do with respect for other peoples property. Pretty simple concept.
Intended as social commentary? 😆 brilliant, tell us another one.
He could see it at home or in a desolate car park on the edge of town. Its rather lucky he parks it where everyone else can see it as well and where he can see them taking photos of it too.
I am sure its all just a coincidence though and he does not really like nor want the attention, He is rather shy as all shy folk are known for buying bright expensive sports car and parking them in the middle of town.
PARKLIFE
tpbiker - we should laugh at his expense.. that's all
Why? 😕
I agree with you Yunki and I'm rather alarmed by the number of people that even don't see the point you're making, never mind the ones that don't agree with it!
How can one person come to 'own' something that has taken such a ginormous amount of labour to create? It's not natural and its not right.
None of the comparisons with other instances of vandalism are relevant because none of them are involve such extravagance. And not just extravagance, but pointless extravagance! I'm not 100%, but I don't think the chap is driving around in a lambo because he's that into cars, it's just another bauble adorning his ego.
Obviously you have to find the middle ground in these sorts of situations. A new Lamborghini is definitely no where near the middle ground, I would say an Alpha could well be within the limits so long as its not too expensive? Maybe we could take a average of all the second hand prices of Alphas currently on the market, add say £5000, and then that's the most you may spend on a car before it becomes acceptable to ride over it on a BMX...
njee20 - because Je suis ****ing Charlie... that's why
tpbiker - we should laugh at his expense.. that's all
Laugh at whose expense? Dirty bikers or the lambo owners? or both? either way...I fail to see why i'd want to laugh at someone elses expense.
Unless of course I was exceptionally bitter about the the fact some people have nice stuff they've earned and I didn't...
I dreamed of doing this on my bmx 20 years back, but up the front of the lambo with it moving towards the bike so as to get some height. Funnily enough never came to fruition.
Then five years back I bought a 911 which my drunk cousin rear ended within half an hour of ownership using my other car.
Thought police.
How can one person come to 'own' something that has taken such a ginormous amount of labour to create? It's not natural and its not right.
About the device you're posting this from...how very dare you "own" something that has, etc.....
Je suis charlie was about freedom was it not? Freedom to express, freedom even to insult. Freedom to spend your money however you choose is small beer by comparison.
All this discussion of the cost of the car is missing the most important point. How much is the bike worth?
Freedom to mock people's absurd religions.. like the cult of consumerism
Consumerism or capitalism? Isn't that what this is really about? Your dislike of our socio economic system?
I'm not 100%
Indeed.
About the device you're posting this from...how very dare you "own" something that has, etc
Christ how many times do you have to make this weak point
Here AGAIN Lets hope you can get to the end this time and get it 🙄
Isn't that what this is really about? Your dislike of our socio economic system?
And what better "social commentary" could there be than riding a $1000 bike over it, while wearing clothes made in a sweatshop by happy little slave kids, filming it with a $500 camera and then posting it on the interwebz.
Sticking it to da man, man!
It's not social commentary, it's not an act of revolution, it's a berk on a bike riding over a car that belongs to another berk. Sadly, it's on the interwebz, so we can all argue about it!
Even Jesus knew how bad the rich were
If it was Wayne Rooneys you'd all be laughing.
I'm taking the line that it was a naughty thing to do but as I neither know nor care about neither the 'victim' nor the 'perpetrator' then from my detached perspective I can enjoy it at face value safe in the knowledge that the proper authorities will hang the Jack O'Knaves when the hulabaloo has died down.
As pointed out a few posts ago, its not even that expensive a car in the grand scheme of things...you can pick one up for 60k.
its no more ludicrous than spending £1500 quid on a set of carbon wheels or £900 quid on a group set..
edit...I realise 60k is alot of money...but you see many cars every day that cost that
its no more ludicrous than spending £1500 quid on a set of carbon wheels or £900 quid on a group set..
It's 40 to 67 times as ludicrous. The majority of people can afford a nice set of carbon bike wheels or a top of the range groupset without even noticing that much (plenty of people piss away more than that on depreciation every year in order to own a brand new boring car).
which to me isn't any more obscene than shelling out 7k on a pushbike. How come the lefties on here aren't up in arms every time dirtybiker (for example) publishes a picture of his 2 obscenely expensive (and admittedly lovely) santa cruzs..same principle IMO, ie people spending the money they've earned on stuff they like.
To be fair, the 7k bicycle probably has a far smaller environmental footprint than the lambo.
It's 40 to 67 times as ludicrous. The majority of people can afford a nice set of carbon bike wheels or a top of the range groupset without even noticing that much (plenty of people piss away more than that on depreciation every year in order to own a brand new boring car).
And plenty of people can afford a 60k car without noticing it..to say its 40 times more ludicrous is deliberately ignoring the fact that a nice car will obviously cost much more than a nice set of bike wheels..relative values of a lambo and enve wheels are similar however, both are a massive extravegance that isn't really required.
Fact is my folks are happy to spend 40 k on a car but think its absolutely ludicrous I spend 2k on a bike, given I could pick one up for 300 quid. I wonder how this thread would go down on a car forum...
smaller environmental footprint
Oh, right. So if it was a brand new Prius, you'd have fired up the pitchforks and rounded up the rider, then?
🙂
Yes that was his point
Very perceptive tonight Cpt
To be fair, the 7k bicycle probably has a far smaller environmental footprint than the lambo.
So now we are imagining he was an environmentalist campaigner taking a stand ?
Amd plenty of people can afford a 60k car without noticing it.
Plenty? Not the majority as is the case for the nice bike wheels? You're talking a far, far smaller subset of people.
to say its 40 times more ludicrous is deliberately ignoring the fact that a nice car will obviously cost much more than a nice set of bike wheels.
Well spotted. I was deliberately ignoring it because relative cost is an irrelevance when discussing how extravagant something is. Presumably you reckon a silver teaspoon is just as massive an extravagance as a 20 bedroom mansion?
edit: actually you probably think the teaspoon is more extravagant - a quick google suggests a you could buy more normal teaspoons for the price of a silver one than the number of normal houses you could buy for the price of the most expensive house sold in this country last year
So now we are imagining he was an environmentalist campaigner taking a stand ?
Between you and flashy you sure nailed his point 😕
He was not even commenting on the original instance and yet both of you made a reply as if he was.
WHY?
Chuckles at spoon example
Ok everyone... I must apologise, I admit that I was wrong..
The breadheads didn't find it funny at all
humourless toadying puppets 😉
Crikey, this forum is full of pillocks. MTBing used to be a cool counter culture hobby. Now it's overrun with people who take themselves way too seriously.
It's a car FFS, a car that cost several hundreds of thousands of pounds no doubt. What a stupid thing to spend that much money on. Come on, the person that owns it, I bet they were laughing aswell. How could they not be? Imganie how much of a tit you'd look making a song and dance about some guy riding a BMX over a car that's cost you several HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS. You'd look a right berk.
Yes plenty..have you not seen the amount of expensive mercs, rangerovers etc that drive around?
I realise far more folks could afford a 5k bike than a 60 k car...however I suspect the majority of folks couldn't afford either. Is it ok for the guy on benefits to mistreat your santa cruz because its an unnecesary luxury, or is it only stuff that you can't afford that you object to?
The point is if you earn 300k per year, a 60k car is no more extrvagant a purchase then 5k MTB when you earn 40k.
david...do you have a car? Can I ride over it...you know, for a bit of a laugh...?
tpbiker - Member
david...do you have a car? Can I ride over it...you know, for a bit of a laugh...?
I do own a car and you could ride over it if you wanted to for a bit of a laugh. Infact, I'd probably be impressed since it's got a high boot that'd be difficult to hop onto.
I think David is laughing at all of us tpbiker.. 😆
The point is if you earn 300k per year, a 60k car is no more extrvagant a purchase then 5k MTB when you earn 40k.
Well, one's a car, one's a bike. One's a sum of money that most people could probably save; the other is a sum of money that most people will never see in their lifetime.
Whats counter culture about riding. Bike over a car?
Now, if it were a police car, the PMs convoy or even better an ambulance or fire engine then I'd be properly impressed.
David is a crazy bastard but to be fair could probably ride over a car unlike the rest of us biffers!
🙂
Just had a quick read of the thread; and I guess I agree with some of the sentiment; damaging other people's property etc.
But it's still a mad amount of money to spend on a car
I never realised STW was such a hotbed of rampant communism.
It's a car FFS, a car that cost several hundreds of thousands of pounds no doubt. What a stupid thing to spend that much money on.
Tell us, Tovarishch, what percentage of our state-sanctioned remuneration shall we set aside for personal transportation costs? I am of course assuming that you will assume the role of Comptroller and Auditor General in the glorious People's Socialist Republic of New Britain, come the revolution. You do seem to have some sage advice any time anyone asks on here about spending their own cash, after all.
Seriously. What the hell is wrong with people spending their own money?
Seriously. What the hell is wrong with people spending their own money?
^ this! is exactly what I've been thinking while reading a lot of comments on this thread.


