[Closed] Grumpy sods...

I know had the same thing taking my son to school. I waved at all the other car drivers and none of them waved back.

Grumpy sods the lot of 'em. They could tell I'm not a proper driver, just a cyclist in a car....

This pops up now and again. When I'm walking to work I wave at everyone else walking. I get some right funny looks and the only person to take any notice was a policeman who looked genuinely concerned for me...

Whilst I'm normally in the "say hello to everyone" camp, I pass so many riders on my commute that I'd constantly be saying hello. Consequently I ignore most people.

That sounds dreadful OP. poor you.

That sounds dreadful OP. poor you.

I know, I'm not used to this sort of misserable, down cast behaviour, I live in the South not Yorkshire FFS!

what's going on?

Don't worry about it. In their minds the're all taking part in a Rapha video and therefore are unable to show any pleasure in cycling at all.

cookeaa perhaps they could sense how immature you are. Honestly, posting a long winded post because someone didn't wave to you, what age are you. Grow up for ****s sake.

I think it's because you're ugly and they are afraid of catching the moose face.

If you commute every day you pass a lot of cyclists, it gets to be a bit of a chore to nod/wave/have a cheery word with all of them.

I say hello to everyone that i've met on my commute when we're riding the same route and strava buddies ofc 😉

I think it's because you're ugly and they are afraid of catching the moose face.

Actually that could be it I ain't pretty, specially in the lycra.

No I know what it was, I was wearing my recently acquired Fauxleys, they could smell cheap from across the road and it disgusted them...

cookeaa perhaps they could sense how immature you are. Honestly, posting a long winded post because someone didn't wave to you, what age are you. Grow up for **** sake.

Yeah! well you're a smelly face so Bum off!

My point really was that everyone I encountered seemed unusually grim this morning but I could not fathom why, TBH I normally get more positive vibes on the way to work, did I miss some terrible news story or something? There's not been any popular TV entertainers outed as kiddie fiddlers have there?

You should read your post again and in a subjective manner think about as a grown man should you really post such nonsense or even care that people wave to you or not.

If cyclists ignoring each other confuses people, how on earth do you cope with travelling on the Tube, in a carriage with dozens of people all utterly intent on avoiding any kind of eye contact or interaction with another human being. It's hilarious! If you do look at or smile at someone they react like you're some kind of weirdo who's just vomitted on their shoes.

I can't help but care, I'm concerned for my fellow Humans psychological well being and I saw this morning as an indication that perhaps all is not quite right in our collective psyche...

I even care about you fellow bicyclist (not in a gay way) your user name "pebblebeach" suggests a romantic soul, wistfully dreaming of a better, calmer life, your posts suggest that latent spirit is being oppressed and you find yourself pushed towards negativity and Pessimism.... would you like a Hug?

Perhaps I'm a bit too much of a "sunny side up" sort, obviously on STW I am of course a complete twazzle in order to conform to the norm.

But in real life I'm a relatively upbeat fella, I barely ever get punched...

...how on earth do you cope with travelling on the Tube...

I just start fiddling with my rucksack and mumbling in Arabic, I find people seem pretty keen to give you a bit of space then...

Double post...

As a mountain biker for 22 years who recently went over to the joys of the road I can tell you that roadies often don't even see other cyclists - riding in a group they will be concentrating so hard on the wheel in front that there simply isn't time to nod or wave to every cyclist, not to mention that peer pressure, real or imagined, would make them feel silly doing it. The bigger the group the more concentration is needed as the "concertina" effect means that the riders at the back are having to cover their brakes and be ready to put in an effort to catch up at the same time. (The back is not a nice place to ride.)

On top of this mountain biking is about getting out and getting into the landscape, getting happily muddy and having fun whereas road riding is all about cleanliness, purity, style and the finesse of average speeds. As an example Matt Seaton says in his excellent book The Escape Artist, which is about roadie obsession and lore, that if you turned up in a serious peloton with hairy legs and dirty kit you would be ridiculed.

I hope that gives you an insight into the lack of empathy from roadies!

I really don't understand why people get so hung up about this. Does it really bother you so much that you need to tell everyone on the internet?

I waved at every other Mondeo driver on my way to work this morning, not one waved back……… society is finished!!!

LOL at cookeaa's indefatiguable positive outlook. Bravo, sir!

[i]I even care about you fellow bicyclist (not in a gay way) your user name "pebblebeach" suggests a romantic soul, wistfully dreaming of a better, calmer life, your posts suggest that latent spirit is being oppressed and you find yourself pushed towards negativity and Pessimism.... would you like a Hug?[/i]

With a capital 'h', no thanks.

[i]I'm not used to this sort of misserable, down cast behaviour, I live in the South not Yorkshire FFS![/i]

It's [b]because[/b] you live in the South. People in the South are more miserabler, fact. So much so that me and her are moving back up North, where strangers don't look at each other like dirt (when they even acknowledge each other at all).

If you'd have been riding t'up North you'd have been getting bored of all the cries of "eh up!", "sithee, 'appen" and "'ow's tha ridin'?" from fellow cyclists, whilst they doff their flat caps in your direction 🙂

My thoughts are that the people on here who say 'why are you bothered about' etc, are probably the ones who wouldn't acknowledge anyway. *waves*

*waves* at cookeaa and pebblebeach (one to maintain the positive vibe and one to encourage).

🙂 <---just for pebble

I'm with you Cookeaa: A nod and a smile whether you're on an Argos special or Italian exotica! To assume mutual goodwill just because we're all pushing two wheels along with our feet is naive, but to culture it because it makes riding feel less like taking on the car army single handedly and because sometimes cyclists need each other's help can only be a good thing.

Did I say I don't give a sign of recognition to other cyclists? I generally do but I couldn't give a flying **** if they nod back or not.

Can't help but be reminded of Curb Your Enthusiasm...

Larry: I waved to a guy in a Prius and he didn't wave back.
Jeff: I don't wave to people in the same car as me.
Larry: We're Prius drivers; we're a special breed.

Usually give a nod, if eye contact is made, but during a commute, in particular, I'm concentrating so much on being not, almost, murdered to death, by traffic, that I don't/can't acknowledge everyone.
I'm reeeeeally sorry if I've upset anyone by this crass behaviour.

My thoughts are that the people on here who say 'why are you bothered about' etc, are probably the ones who wouldn't acknowledge anyway.

They probably don't say thank you if you hold the door open for them either.

Pebblebeach-I think you need a trip to your username for some R&R. Cheer up, it's nearly Christmas!!

I'm with you Cookeaa: A nod and a smile whether you're on an Argos special or Italian exotica! To assume mutual goodwill just because we're all pushing two wheels along with our feet is naive, but to culture it because it makes riding feel less like taking on the car army single handedly and because sometimes cyclists need each other's help can only be a good thing.

Precisely...

Did I say I don't give a sign of recognition to other cyclists? I generally do but I couldn't give a flying **** if they nod back or not.

Are you sure?

I mean this thread which you have already stated to be meaningless and immature nonsense on a topic you care nothing about still seems to be eliciting responses from you... The offer of a Hug still stands, I think you could use it...

[i]Pebblebeach-I think you need a trip to your username for some R&R. Cheer up, it's nearly Christmas!![/i]

Maybe I'm being miserable because my mum past away a couple of weeks ago after a hard fight with cancer.

Maybe I'm being miserable because my my past away a couple of weeks ago after a hard fight with cancer.

Cos I knew that didn't I.........

I am genuinely sorry for your loss though.

I have noticed the same sort of thing - there's about 4 guys I pass every time I ride and only one or two ever say "Hi" - the guy the silly beanie with flames on it, and the Dutch chap who I stopped to check on if he needed any help when he had a flat.

The others [interestingly in full Lycra] are far too stern faced to even look up!

Really I just think it's a shame not to share a cheery "Hi" or wave, esp. in the grim winter months.

At least I have an excuse for being what you call 'miserable' though and I won't always be. Those of you fretting about not being waved back at will always be immature.

[i]Cos I knew that didn't I.........[/i]

Nice time for a bit of sarcasm btw.

The amount of times some super cheery cyclists nods or waves hello as I'm riding by on my own in a total world of my own, only for it to register after I've passed them that I've essentially just ignored them.

Don't take it personally… road biking is mundane at best and it's easy to drift off!

I can't help but care, I'm concerned for my fellow Humans psychological well being and I saw this morning as an indication that perhaps all is not quite right in our collective psyche..

Sadly some of those grummpies may have just

..lost a kitten,puppy,tadpole
.. had someone from their family die/walk out on them.
..been attacked by a smiling loon.
..lost their job
.. had more than enough about the feast of santa ,and it is now making them feel like finding a high bridge somewhere.

and then you come along with your weird smile/wave combo .

I wave/smile like a loon at other cyclists,but I am not so precious that I need any response .

Love and peas 😆

@pebblebeach - it worries me that you can't read the underlying tone of humour in cookeas posts.

I commute in london and always nod/smile at virtually every cyclist I see, but sometimes I'm put off by certain people who I just know will not return the favor, so I save myself the embarrassment of nodding to a brick wall.

GSuperstar - mmm and you can't read the underlying humour in mine. Doh.

But you really shouldn't let things like that worry you anyway. So many sensitive souls.

Nice time for a bit of sarcasm btw.

Balls, I said i was sorry for your loss, but there was no need to bring the big guns and hit me with "someones recently died of Cancer" as a retort to some light hearted banter.

I am still sorry for your loss, but you need to recognise when banter is just that! And if that was 'underlying humour' you really are a sick puppy!

...underlying tone of humour in cookeas post...

Eh? I've been deadly serious throughout...

pebblebeach, Sounds like I was right, you do need a Hug, Sorry for your loss...

As for the general commuting malaise, I'm going to see what it's like on the way home, I was going into the wind this morning so those going the other way had it easy, I hope the stress of a day at work coupled with more effort to pedal home doesn't tip them over the edge into random act of violence against cheerful strangers...

I live up north and it gets dark about 4:30 up here. you might not be able to see their faces on the way home.

Nah I'll just shine a helmet light in their faces, I'll take any gestures they might in reaction to that make as a friendly wave...

just for contrast.. Out on my MTB yesterday, stomping along a little road section I encountered a roadie coming from the other direction..

We both chuckled with glee as he muscled his bike over the detritus that had been washed across the road by recently receded floodwater..

Obviously I muttered 'bellend' through my gritted teeth as our eyes met, and I'm sure that I heard him mutter '****'...

but for a beautiful, brief moment the animosity was suspended

@ my post above and pebblebeach. I feel a bit a nob as that was harsher than was intended. Apologies.

Holds out hand......

I live up north and it gets dark about 4:30 up here. you might not be able to see their faces on the way home.

The sun goes down in the south as well you know lol. This isn't norway.

peeblebeech...
Genuinely sorry to hear of your loss, but is Singletrack the right place to spit your venom ?? It was just someone making an observation...

I nod to other cyclists on the commute, sometimes they nod back, sometimes they don't. The world keeps-a-turning.

@pebbles, can't tell if you're serious or not about anything in this thread... Think you need to take a look around though, maybe mellow for the rest of us a bit?

I think this whole wave and not get one back stems from wanting to be 'in the club' mentality. I feel a bit of brotherhood when I see another cyclist and if I were to offer a wink, wave or a hi, if I didn't receive acknowledgment then I would feel somehow let down. Strange, eh?

I've not posted here for a while...

Feels like groundhog day.

What about CRC? How are the delivery times?

I was brought up to acknowledge people who spoke to you, OP is right miserable sods the lot of them.

As the man on the radio said earlier... "if you see someone without a smile, give them one of yours."

Just to round it off:

I'd say the commute home was less glum, I only encountered two other cyclists and of those one gave a nod back.
I'm choosing to take the standard STW statistical approach to the topic:

Commute in: 83.33% Grumpy / 16.66% Cheery

Commute Home: 50% Grumpy / 50% Cheery

My glass is still half full...

I always give a cheery good morning/afternoon/evening to other cyclists (can't help it, riding the bike always puts me in a good mood!) and there are only 3 "regulars" on my commute who don't return the greeting. One guy looks like a stereotypical "too cool for school" stoner type who always wears jeans and a wooly hat and I accept that for him to acknowledge the joyful salutations of a hi-vis wearing, helmeted, lycra-legginged freak would make him an instant social pariah amongst his circle. So I thought I had broken through one day when instead of an exuberant greeting I gave him an almost imperceptible nod instead (perhaps only half a degree of inclination) and he [i]actually cracked a smile[/i] for a split second. Never managed it again though.

Commuting is a bit different really isn't it. If you are out on a ride and you see some one doing the same a smile or even a grunted morning wouldn't hurt.
In the same way that i wouldn't pass a cyclist with a mechincal without checking if they needed anything.