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[Closed] Got bitten by a dog this morning.....

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Generally I'm happy to let and let live but this morning I was fuming and hated dog walkers.

I've calmed down a bit now and can post without ranDom capitales speeling mistakes etc (sorry if that's letting the side down).

At about 9.30 I was returning home from a nice ride on the downs along a byway in a local wood (Abbots wood in Sussex for those who know the area) when I met a walker with 3 dogs, one on a lead and 2 off. I passed him and one of the dogs started yapping, so I stopped, the dog then bit my ankle drawing blood. I was fuming and asked, well demanded, that he give me his detales so I could report him. His response? To call me a liar because his dog doesn't bite! The fact he saw the dog do it and there's blood on my leg seams to have bypassed his brain!

I tried to grab the dog to read the collar tag but he then lunged for me and I though it was going to be fisticuffs but he though better, turned and ran away into the trees calling for the dogs to follow him!

I'm not a violent person so rather than chase him down and then what? I rode to the car park, cleaned up the bite and had a snack while waiting to see if he turned up, he didn't so I road home fuming.....

This is what it looked like when the worst was cleaned up:
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It's not excactly the worst injury I've ever had but it's left me more angry then most, especially because of the guys reaction.

So: Who should this sort of thing be reported to? The police?

Will they do anything?

For what it's worth, and so the locals are warned:

He's white male, 30 ish, short brown hair, wearing denim jeans and a dark blue top. The dogs were a white and brown spaniel, and black spaniel (the biter) and another light coloured dog.


 
Posted : 10/07/2011 2:33 pm
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Sorry to hear about the injury. A bit of a lesson there... I NEVER stop when dogs are around. I speed up! I have actually run into a dog on my bike. It was a German Shepherd so, now you know even a big dog will bounce off a fast moving mountain bike! I got chased by a yappy little beast the other day and started goading the little bleeder on as I sprinted off up a trail, just keeping him about a wheel-diameter behind me. My thoughts were: "thanks for letting your little bundle of teeth loose on a public bridleway, now let's see how far into the woods I can get him to go!"


 
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Oh dear, All that calming down and I still muck up the photo.

Here it is:

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Posted : 10/07/2011 3:01 pm
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The size of the bite doesn't matter, dogs carry all sorts of shit in their saliva, report the owner and the dogs to the rozzers, it could be a flashers knackers next time 😯


 
Posted : 10/07/2011 3:07 pm
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Flashers knackers?

I thought it was "Child's face".

Fair point though, I'll report it but will they take it seriously? After all, today's incident wasn't that serious but next time it could be a......


 
Posted : 10/07/2011 3:55 pm
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Hazardous past-time riding bikes, i just got stung by a bee, ...twenty quid for a jar of honey....

Edit.. you will need a tetanus if you are not up to date, local A&E or minor injuries place should be able to do it.


 
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just keeping him about a wheel-diameter behind me.

couldn't you have then braked sharply?


 
Posted : 10/07/2011 4:08 pm
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Flashers knackers?

I thought it was "Child's face".

go for a twofer?


 
Posted : 10/07/2011 4:15 pm
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so I stopped

then its your own fault, dogs bite, get over it


 
Posted : 10/07/2011 4:22 pm
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I would be mortified if my dog bit anyone, I would have stopped and grovelled/apologised !!

Again like the road cyclist thread some people have no manners full stop...

Dog walker, road cyclist, mountain biker.... plenty of knobs either way


 
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The size of the bite doesn't matter, dogs carry all sorts of shit in their saliva,

^^^ Best bit of advice on here.

Report it if you feel the need but whatever else you do get yourself to the local NHS walk-in centre and get it properly cleaned and get any shots that they recommend.

Mrs mw sees a couple of dog bites a week as part of her work and almost without exception the worst aspect of them is the infection rather than the initial injury.


 
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If you have a wart and you see a dog on the trail, stop and get the dog to lick it - the wart will shrivel up and go.


 
Posted : 10/07/2011 6:13 pm
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you should have bitten the owner and said "people bite mate, get over it"..


 
Posted : 10/07/2011 6:31 pm
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I think all people with dogs should stand up and be counted?
There are too many people out there with dogs that ?(or owners)
A) think that everybody likes dogs?
B) think that there dog won't bite anyone (coss there great with kids?)
C) think that it's good to run along side/ after either bikers or runners or walkers?
D) All dogs should be kept on leads all the time with owners realising that all others around them don't like or love someone else's dog.
E) ps yes i'am a dog owner myself but get really annoyed by other dog owners and there attitude?????????


 
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Should have reported it at the time. Should report it as soon as you can.


 
Posted : 10/07/2011 6:46 pm
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I know what I would have done, Crocodile Dundee knife and gut the thing in front of him. Then say "I never do that"


 
Posted : 10/07/2011 6:58 pm
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Contact the Dog Warden, give descriptions, the local DW (if its Eastbourne) is pretty keen on this sort of thing. Also dog clearly not under control and injury to person falls in realm of Dangerous Dogs Act.


 
Posted : 10/07/2011 7:05 pm
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I had a spaniel jump out of hedge a chase me the other day,luckily it was downhill on a bridleway.... He had no chance 😆


 
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D) All dogs should be kept on leads all the time with owners realising that all others around them don't like or love someone else's dog.

all dogs should be kept under control at all times - if you need a lead to do this then fine - but if you have trained your dog properly and can control it without then thats fine as well.

Its under control that is the key thing


 
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lol @ the fella running away.

Dog Walkers are creatures of habit, chances are he'll be back at the same location at the same time in a couple of weeks. But what you'd actually be able to do about it is a different matter.


 
Posted : 11/07/2011 11:18 am
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I would have booted the dog into oblivion.

Then it would associate getting kicked very hard with biting legs.


 
Posted : 11/07/2011 11:22 am
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dog walkers refuse to admit their dog has bitten you. it may have its jaws around your ankle with teeth to the bone but 'its just playing'

some dog owners are just stupid. others are nice. bit like bike riders really.

I would have booted the dog into oblivion.
this is actually quite difficult as they move pretty quick.


 
Posted : 11/07/2011 11:30 am
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don't get me started on dogs


 
Posted : 11/07/2011 11:33 am
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go on rocketman - you will get all the dog owners frothing at the mouth


 
Posted : 11/07/2011 11:34 am
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must resist...must resist...


 
Posted : 11/07/2011 11:35 am
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go on go on go on


 
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🙂


 
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I would have just choked the owner out, suplexed him, then done a tombstone on the offending black spaniel.

No doubt the other two hounds would try to defend their owner's honour, but I would be ready with a fold up chair, whacking the light coloured dog whilst ready with a half nelson for the brown spaniel.

The owner would be in a daze at this point, giving me enough time for a drop kick to the back, leading into a Boston crab.

That would teach them.


 
Posted : 11/07/2011 11:40 am
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I won't resist. I'll say it for you. All dogs should be shot. Its that simple, really. They're a bloody menace. Just four-legged shitting machines, with varying proclivity to random acts of violence. And all that guff about being intelligent animals. What? They're thick as pig-shit.

Was that what you were going to say?


 
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binners +1


 
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They're thick as pig-shit.
Indeed. When did you last see one reading the Guardian.


 
Posted : 11/07/2011 11:51 am
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No appreciation of classical music, or contemporary dance, or anything TJ. They're a lost cause.

*sips latte and returns to stroking Bond-villain-esque flufy white pussy cat*


 
Posted : 11/07/2011 11:54 am
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Get yourself to the NHS walk-in-centre and report to the police, they do take dog bites seriously. My housemate was bitten last week while at work (he's a courier) now has quite a nasty infection in the wound, facing the prospect of having to have the infected tissue surgically removed now.


 
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binners +2

I've owned a dog but have come to a similar conclusion.

And yes I have had stitches following a dog bite - it might be the STW joke but I really was bitten in the face as a child - 20 stitches in my cheek - missed my eye by 10mm (not my own dog I might add).

Apart from true working dogs the rest are pointless. Plus, it seems the lower the IQ of the owner, the more likely they will purchase a bull terrier, rotweiller etc. Not a good combination.


 
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Have I been suckered in by Trailflow's trolling?

How does one control a dog that's not on a lead when it decides to do what it like TJ? They might be thick but they still have enough free will to be dangerous.


 
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vedubba - you train it to obey. If you can't then you put it on a lead. I have seen dogs that never went on a lead because they didn't need to. It wouldn't step off a kerb without permission, it would never go to someone, it would ignore other dogs and bikes. It would drop instantly if told to by its owner and would come to heel instantly.


 
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99.9% of dogs are fine. It's the idiots they live with that cause the issues. For the remaining 0.1% they're just born a wrongun. Unfortunately it's often hard to tell until it's too late. A bit like people I guess.

FWIW the only dogs that I put my bike between them and I if I encounter them whislt out riding are spaniels and scotty dogs. I've been bitten by one of the latter twice.

Now, cats on the other hand. I've had three and have loved each of them dearly but without exception each of the fury maniacs has at some point, and quite often more than once, turned round to it's loving owner and engaged in a pretty serious mauling.

Report it if you feel the need but get down to A&E for a jab.


 
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TJ, as is always said on these threads Dogs (like people) are never 100% in control they aren't machines.

If you actually talk to any dog owner (even the ones who you seem to think are 100% in control) and ask him or her if they think that their dog is 100% in control at all times and they will confirm this is the case.

The issue is what they do when they are out of control. Mine raids picnics, if he bit anyone then he would/should be more worried about my reaction than the person he bit.

Get yourself down to the NHS BTW for a tetanus jab, as its better safe than sorry.


 
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I've heard that sometimes people turn out to be psychopaths/muderers/news of the world editors etc.... and yet people keep having children. 🙄

(apologies for having no real bearing on the OP)


 
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not trolling

if the dog was overly aggressive and started ripping his ankle apart and wouldnt let go,then maybe the OP should of reported it

but its just a little bite isnt it? my cats done worst 🙂


 
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I've heard that sometimes people turn out to be psychopaths/muderers/news of the world editors etc.... and yet people keep having children.

That's fine as long at they are in control at all times*

*According to T 'ITS THE LAW' J.


 
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richc - you cannot train your dog properly and don't care that he raids peoples picnics. Get it under control and keep it there. That is ou tof order and you know it.

A well trained dog causes no one any hassle. You like too many others excuse your mutts behaviour and your inability to control the dog. If you cannot train it properly then keep it on a lead. simple


 
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If only Adolf's mum had kept him on a lead!

Have to say that I own a dog (well puppy at the mo) and agree totally with TJ's sentiment - we've chosen to have the pet so is out of order to make it other peoples problem through lack of control etc.


 
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You can never be too careful with these things. What if, at the next full moon, he turns into some kind of un-dead, were-spaniel? Then goes on a blood-splattered killing spree? Annoyingly yapping at the moon, then tearing peoples throats out with his newly sharpened incisors? Before depositing massive steaming were-spaniel eggs all over the trails? Eh? Eh?

Answer that! You bloody dog lovers!


 
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I'd blame it on the parents!

And not being on a lead.


 
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I blame it on Thatcher.

you cannot train your dog properly and don't care that he raids peoples picnic

Amazing deduction mystic Jeremy, and from that analysis based on never seeing the dog in question we can all work out why you work in McDonalds.


 
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Richc - no - from what you posted.

The issue is what they do when they are out of control. Mine raids picnics,

so you let you dog run around out of control and despite you knowing he does things that are very annoying to other folk you don't stop him.

If you had your dog trained properly he would not do this, if you cared about it you would have him on lead to stop him doing this

typical selfish dog owner. You will not accept any criticism of your unsocial dogs bad behaviour and will not take responsibility for it.

Can I come and steal your picnic and make in inedible next time you are out?


 
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or perhaps mystic Meg, if you used your crystal ball a bit more you could work out that I either walk him where there aren't any picnics, or when I think there is a risk of them I recall him and put him on the lead, as due to experience I know it might be an issue.

But considering your MASSIVE* intellect I guess you already worked this out.

Can I come and steal your picnic and make in inedible next time you are out?

Sure, let me know next time the care in the community bus is around and I will pop around to see you.

* compared to a Gnu ...... perhaps.


 
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I hope this isn't an elaborate marketing tool to promote the 25th anniversary edition of Cujo...

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richc - you used present tense - "My dog does" not "would do" or "did once"

You continually do this - defend dogs that are out of control.

Its really very simple - I can tell you are hard of thinking so I will say it again. Train your dog properly. Keep it under control. Thats all you need to do.


 
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My dog would given half the chance hover by a picnic as due to the amount of rubbish left after a large percentage of them he knows there are good pickings, also it isn't unknown for people to give/throw him food , which is a pain in the arse and re-enforces the bad behaviour (perhaps, I can kick the people to try and teach them?)

Hence during or after hot sunny spells I avoid these areas, or keep him on the lead when I think their may be a risk of them, as anyone with any common sense would.

Perhaps that's what I am doing wrong here, is assuming that you have any common sense ....


 
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Classic dog thread.


 
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That dog doesn't look 100% in control to me, so where's it's lead ............. FOR GOD's SAKE THINK OF THE CHILDREN ..............


 
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Here's one without any clothes on...

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no leads... children's faces.

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lets pray nobody was torn to shreds in the making of those photos!

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The horror, the horror ...............

Does anyone else wonder if TJ gets bored of being wrong all the time? his life was be so depressing and I can't imagine what its like to looked at with pity and embarrassment by everyone you meet.


 
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Problem is richc - on this one I am right and have at length given you the data to show this. You have legal responsibilities.

Its the selfish dog owners like you who are in denial.

and by the way - I am laughing at your stupidity and bluster. ridiculous.


 
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Did you take so long to respond as you accidentally wrote your response out on your etch-a-sketch (again) TJ?


 
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You two need another hobby!

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Two birds with one stone.......


 
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Lets argue whether dog owners should make their pets wear helmets...I'm all for it...helmets save lives!

Discuss.


 
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Do you want my head to explode scanner styleeeee?


 
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You have legal responsibilities.

This from the bloke (you are a bloke aren't you TJ, because your panties seem to be in a right bunch) who picks and chooses whether to obey red lights. Tut, tut, tut.

I'd forgotten how histrionic and sanctimonious TJ could be. Spectacluar baiting by Richc 😎


 
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Who baited who?

You only have to mutter "train your dog properly and keep it under control" for dog owners to start bleating away - and as they have no argument they resort to childish and puerile insults.


 
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You wiped the spittle off your monitor yet TJ?


 
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If my dog bites anyone, then it will go for the needle, end of. I don't own a dog as a status symbol, or to torment people, or to protect my property, although I have a feeling it would be a better detterent than a house alarm. I like dogs, my dog is well trained (not by me, it was a rescue), and when I have been on long term sick leave it has been good company.


 
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Ah - another day, another dog thread on STW!

To the OP - given the attitude of the owner, I'd strongly recommend reporting the incident to the police, if only because there's no indication he'll take any sort of action to correct or restrain the dog's behaviour in the future.


 
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I know what I would have done, Crocodile Dundee knife and gut the thing in front of him. Then say "I never do that"

😈

Report it to the plod and get your boosters from A&E.

Carry a bigger pump and beat the dog to a bloody pulp. Or carry on riding next time.


 
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Ah - another day, another dog thread on STW!

I'm sure we had a 'cats are rubbish' thread last week.

Why don't we give cats and dogs a rest and argue about rabbits.


 
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Harry - sorry to hear you got bitten. The dog owner sounds like they were in the wrong not having their dog under control or on a lead. However in balance I saw an owner have their dog run over by a cyclist on the hills yesterday - some scrote in jeans no helmet never even slowed down or apologised - and the dog came off a lot worse than you. There are good dogs & bad dogs just like good & bad riders.
I love dogs but am always cautious around them after all we must be pretty scary on bikes to them, & it is instinctive for them to protect their master (i guess in some not all cases ie Paris Hilton 😉


 
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However in balance I saw an owner have their dog run over by a cyclist on the hills yesterday - some scrote in jeans no helmet never even slowed down or apologised - and the dog came off a lot worse than you.

What does what he was wearing have to do with it? Should he have apologised? I've nearly run over dogs before when they've ran right in front of me.


 
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On the basis that he said

The issue is what they do when they are out of control. Mine raids picnics

To then have you get your panties in such a bunch I would say it was you, my sweet ;-P


 
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Yes I think he should have stopped & left his details. After all if you were driving on a public highway and hit a pedestrian, then drove off you would be commiting an offence, so how is that different from cycling on a public bridleway? Imagine if the dog had been a small child out walking with the parents & was hit by a speeding cyclist.


 
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TJ, as is always said on these threads Dogs (like people) are never 100% in control they aren't machines.

If you actually talk to any dog owner (even the ones who you seem to think are 100% in control) and ask him or her if they think that their dog is 100% in control at all times and they will confirm this is the case.

My two penney worth, would never say I was in control of my dog (cairn terrier) but I all ways have him on a lead and can give him a good yank back when things wind him up.

Report the owner, get a jab, next time keep riding because when you outside the dogs territory they "usually" give up, if not put the bike between you and it


 
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So while the dog owners/experts are about, what's the best way to deal with jumpy yappy dogs ?
I can't decide between stopping and waiting for it to calm down/be controlled by owner or putting as much distance between myself and animal as poss.
Option one, seems to work OK but does usually lead to exchange of views with owner &/or temptation to resort to non verbal communication.
Option two gives less chance for dog/cyclist/owner interaction but does give the risk of leading dog deep into the woods and getting lost from its owner.


 
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Wrong thread, but for future reference, "of" and "have" don't have the same meaning: "should've" not "should of". Jesus, it's simple English!

Did the place the incident happen have signs telling dog owners to keep their dogs on a lead? Actually, a pointless question as most dog owners ignore that anyway.


 
Posted : 11/07/2011 8:12 pm
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Blimy, what have I unleashed.........

Oh well, it was always a risk!

For what it's worth, the incident has been reported, and is now on file in case it happens again. Nothing else is likly to happen as I don't have the guy's name.

My ankle will be fine in a few days but I'll always remember the sight of a grown man diving into the undergrowth like a bunny rabbit just to avoid giving me his name.

You guys feel free to keep the 'debate' going though!


 
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At about 9.30 I was returning home from a nice [b]walk[/b] [s]ride[/s] on the downs along a byway in a local wood (Abbots wood in Sussex for those who know the area) when I met a [b]cyclist[/b] [s]walker with 3 dogs one on a lead and 2 off[/s]. [b]He[/b] [s]I[/s] passed [b]me[/b] [s]him[/s] and one of [b]my[/b] [s]the[/s] dogs started yapping [b]because he's scared of bikes[/b], [s]so I stopped[/s] [b]I'm not sure why but the cyclist stopped which only made my dog even more scared[/b], the dog then bit my ankle drawing blood. [b]He[/b] [s]I[/s] was fuming and asked, well demanded, that [b]I[/b] [s]he[/s] give [s]him[/s] [b]my[/b] his detales so [b]he[/b] [s]I[/s] could report him. [b]He didn't give me a chance to apologise, and I felt very intimidated so I thought sod him and ran off.[/b]

Dogs shouldn't bite people, but then again people don't always behave perfectly either.


 
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