[Closed] Got bitten by a dog this morning.....

I'd blame it on the parents!

And not being on a lead.

I blame it on Thatcher.

you cannot train your dog properly and don't care that he raids peoples picnic

Amazing deduction mystic Jeremy, and from that analysis based on never seeing the dog in question we can all work out why you work in McDonalds.

Richc - no - from what you posted.

The issue is what they do when they are out of control. Mine raids picnics,

so you let you dog run around out of control and despite you knowing he does things that are very annoying to other folk you don't stop him.

If you had your dog trained properly he would not do this, if you cared about it you would have him on lead to stop him doing this

typical selfish dog owner. You will not accept any criticism of your unsocial dogs bad behaviour and will not take responsibility for it.

Can I come and steal your picnic and make in inedible next time you are out?

or perhaps mystic Meg, if you used your crystal ball a bit more you could work out that I either walk him where there aren't any picnics, or when I think there is a risk of them I recall him and put him on the lead, as due to experience I know it might be an issue.

But considering your MASSIVE* intellect I guess you already worked this out.

Can I come and steal your picnic and make in inedible next time you are out?

Sure, let me know next time the care in the community bus is around and I will pop around to see you.

* compared to a Gnu ...... perhaps.

I hope this isn't an elaborate marketing tool to promote the 25th anniversary edition of Cujo...

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richc - you used present tense - "My dog does" not "would do" or "did once"

You continually do this - defend dogs that are out of control.

Its really very simple - I can tell you are hard of thinking so I will say it again. Train your dog properly. Keep it under control. Thats all you need to do.

My dog would given half the chance hover by a picnic as due to the amount of rubbish left after a large percentage of them he knows there are good pickings, also it isn't unknown for people to give/throw him food , which is a pain in the arse and re-enforces the bad behaviour (perhaps, I can kick the people to try and teach them?)

Hence during or after hot sunny spells I avoid these areas, or keep him on the lead when I think their may be a risk of them, as anyone with any common sense would.

Perhaps that's what I am doing wrong here, is assuming that you have any common sense ....

Classic dog thread.

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That dog doesn't look 100% in control to me, so where's it's lead ............. FOR GOD's SAKE THINK OF THE CHILDREN ..............

Here's one without any clothes on...

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no leads... children's faces.

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lets pray nobody was torn to shreds in the making of those photos!

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The horror, the horror ...............

Does anyone else wonder if TJ gets bored of being wrong all the time? his life was be so depressing and I can't imagine what its like to looked at with pity and embarrassment by everyone you meet.

Problem is richc - on this one I am right and have at length given you the data to show this. You have legal responsibilities.

Its the selfish dog owners like you who are in denial.

and by the way - I am laughing at your stupidity and bluster. ridiculous.

Did you take so long to respond as you accidentally wrote your response out on your etch-a-sketch (again) TJ?

You two need another hobby!

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Two birds with one stone.......

Lets argue whether dog owners should make their pets wear helmets...I'm all for it...helmets save lives!

Discuss.

Do you want my head to explode scanner styleeeee?

You have legal responsibilities.

This from the bloke (you are a bloke aren't you TJ, because your panties seem to be in a right bunch) who picks and chooses whether to obey red lights. Tut, tut, tut.

I'd forgotten how histrionic and sanctimonious TJ could be. Spectacluar baiting by Richc 😎

Who baited who?

You only have to mutter "train your dog properly and keep it under control" for dog owners to start bleating away - and as they have no argument they resort to childish and puerile insults.

You wiped the spittle off your monitor yet TJ?

If my dog bites anyone, then it will go for the needle, end of. I don't own a dog as a status symbol, or to torment people, or to protect my property, although I have a feeling it would be a better detterent than a house alarm. I like dogs, my dog is well trained (not by me, it was a rescue), and when I have been on long term sick leave it has been good company.

Ah - another day, another dog thread on STW!

To the OP - given the attitude of the owner, I'd strongly recommend reporting the incident to the police, if only because there's no indication he'll take any sort of action to correct or restrain the dog's behaviour in the future.

soulwood - Member

I know what I would have done, Crocodile Dundee knife and gut the thing in front of him. Then say "I never do that"

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Report it to the plod and get your boosters from A&E.

Carry a bigger pump and beat the dog to a bloody pulp. Or carry on riding next time.

Ah - another day, another dog thread on STW!

I'm sure we had a 'cats are rubbish' thread last week.

Why don't we give cats and dogs a rest and argue about rabbits.

Harry - sorry to hear you got bitten. The dog owner sounds like they were in the wrong not having their dog under control or on a lead. However in balance I saw an owner have their dog run over by a cyclist on the hills yesterday - some scrote in jeans no helmet never even slowed down or apologised - and the dog came off a lot worse than you. There are good dogs & bad dogs just like good & bad riders.
I love dogs but am always cautious around them after all we must be pretty scary on bikes to them, & it is instinctive for them to protect their master (i guess in some not all cases ie Paris Hilton 😉

However in balance I saw an owner have their dog run over by a cyclist on the hills yesterday - some scrote in jeans no helmet never even slowed down or apologised - and the dog came off a lot worse than you.

What does what he was wearing have to do with it? Should he have apologised? I've nearly run over dogs before when they've ran right in front of me.

On the basis that he said

The issue is what they do when they are out of control. Mine raids picnics

To then have you get your panties in such a bunch I would say it was you, my sweet ;-P

Yes I think he should have stopped & left his details. After all if you were driving on a public highway and hit a pedestrian, then drove off you would be commiting an offence, so how is that different from cycling on a public bridleway? Imagine if the dog had been a small child out walking with the parents & was hit by a speeding cyclist.

richc - Member
TJ, as is always said on these threads Dogs (like people) are never 100% in control they aren't machines.

If you actually talk to any dog owner (even the ones who you seem to think are 100% in control) and ask him or her if they think that their dog is 100% in control at all times and they will confirm this is the case.

My two penney worth, would never say I was in control of my dog (cairn terrier) but I all ways have him on a lead and can give him a good yank back when things wind him up.

Report the owner, get a jab, next time keep riding because when you outside the dogs territory they "usually" give up, if not put the bike between you and it

So while the dog owners/experts are about, what's the best way to deal with jumpy yappy dogs ?
I can't decide between stopping and waiting for it to calm down/be controlled by owner or putting as much distance between myself and animal as poss.
Option one, seems to work OK but does usually lead to exchange of views with owner &/or temptation to resort to non verbal communication.
Option two gives less chance for dog/cyclist/owner interaction but does give the risk of leading dog deep into the woods and getting lost from its owner.

Wrong thread, but for future reference, "of" and "have" don't have the same meaning: "should've" not "should of". Jesus, it's simple English!

Did the place the incident happen have signs telling dog owners to keep their dogs on a lead? Actually, a pointless question as most dog owners ignore that anyway.

Blimy, what have I unleashed.........

Oh well, it was always a risk!

For what it's worth, the incident has been reported, and is now on file in case it happens again. Nothing else is likly to happen as I don't have the guy's name.

My ankle will be fine in a few days but I'll always remember the sight of a grown man diving into the undergrowth like a bunny rabbit just to avoid giving me his name.

You guys feel free to keep the 'debate' going though!

At about 9.30 I was returning home from a nice [b]walk[/b] [s]ride[/s] on the downs along a byway in a local wood (Abbots wood in Sussex for those who know the area) when I met a [b]cyclist[/b] [s]walker with 3 dogs one on a lead and 2 off[/s]. [b]He[/b] [s]I[/s] passed [b]me[/b] [s]him[/s] and one of [b]my[/b] [s]the[/s] dogs started yapping [b]because he's scared of bikes[/b], [s]so I stopped[/s] [b]I'm not sure why but the cyclist stopped which only made my dog even more scared[/b], the dog then bit my ankle drawing blood. [b]He[/b] [s]I[/s] was fuming and asked, well demanded, that [b]I[/b] [s]he[/s] give [s]him[/s] [b]my[/b] his detales so [b]he[/b] [s]I[/s] could report him. [b]He didn't give me a chance to apologise, and I felt very intimidated so I thought sod him and ran off.[/b]

Dogs shouldn't bite people, but then again people don't always behave perfectly either.

quite right too the dog being part of the family and only defending its territory - problem is they can smell fear and will bite if people are scared and are behaving oddly - oh yes never done it before and likes children and it is unfair to keep them on a lead

Oh well... that's alright then. So, in that context, if I feel someone is behaving oddly I could perfectly legitimately headbutt them?

So while the dog owners/experts are about, what's the best way to deal with jumpy yappy dogs ?

I am not an expert, but in my experience (my dog needs shitloads of walking, so I meet a lot of dogs, and mine *had* a lot of issues when I got him) the best way to deal with jumpy yappy dogs, it to stop and face them, and if they jump up, turn away from them (to the side, so they slip off your legs) and say No!, after about 3 times they should give up, and stop doing it. If they look puzzled you can try a Sit (if they know it) as if they aren't sure what to do, and hear a command they know they just do it 90% of the time.

If however that doesn't work and for some reason the owner hasn't got to you by that point, and it can happen, as people aren't perfect and mistakes happen, you can try; walking into them as they jump up, FFS do not knee them, or ram into them, just firmly step forward so they have to walk backwards, this combined with No's should do it.

The reason I say don't knee or ram them, is whilst this *might* work this might also escalate things, as the dog might/can interpret this wanting to play rough, so then the jumping up will get a hell of lot more aggressive, if you've seen two dogs that know each other well playing rough you will know what I mean.

I know Mystic Meg, thinks that the world should be full of constants and all dogs should be like remote control automations, however they aren't, so the chance of in your lifetime meeting a dog off the lead and not 100% in control is pretty much 100%. So learning how to deal with the shit that life throws up isn't a bad thing to know, and generally if you don't act like a self righteous cock (and this applies to the dog owners and cyclists) things generally work out ok.

I know its not ideal that you have to deal with this, however if the worst thing that happens to you in your life is a dog jumps up at you, I would look at that as you have a pretty good/easy life.

if I feel someone is behaving oddly I could perfectly legitimately headbutt them?

Why are people using the argument that the decision process and survival instincts of a dog directly apply to those of a human?

Unless you have a mental illness that has reduced your intelligence to that of a dog, it's an invalid argument.

If its Hora the answer is yes
Its idiotic to defend the dog here as it bit someone. Bit like arguing she should not have been there when she got raped type arguments ie bollox.

😯 the dog raped Harry Turtle too?

Its idiotic to defend the dog here as it bit someone

I agree, the dog bit him, the owner is in the wrong and should have MTFU and dealt with the consequences. Running off like a child, is not the answer and I hope the bloke feels totally ashamed of himself*.

This doesn't mean the dog has to be destroyed, however it should at least have a muzzle on, and the Police/RSCPA notified so if it does it again things can be escalated as *they* see fit.

* perhaps he thought living with the embarrassment of legging it, was a better option than risking of his dog being destroyed due to it biting you.

if I feel someone is behaving oddly I could perfectly legitimately headbutt them?

Has anyone asked about the wellbeing of the dog yet?
(My views have been aired before and repetion isn't going to add anything).

Bluebird, I see what you're trying to do there but it doesn't work. I stopped so that I wouldn't hurt a dog yapping around my wheels. If he wanted to apologise had plenty of oppunity, he used it to call me a lier (despite the obvious evidence).

Generally when I encouter dogs that are out of control I stop, I've always felt this to be a less confrontational action for both the dog and the owner. Perhaps I'll behave differently in future, perhaps not.

For what it's worth the dog was fine and despite reporting it I have no desire to see it harmed, on a lead or muzzled in public would prevent a repeat and that'd be enough to make me happy.

On that note I'll bow out of this thread as it's all got a bit out of hand.....

let sleeping dogs lie and all that (crap pun I know but......)