I've Google fought them and the Fox Floats kicked the Rockshox Revelations ass but what works best on a bike.
I want 140mm travel for my Turner 5.5 Spot (preferably in white). Don't care about adjustable travel as I never adjust it so why have it.
20 or 15mm axle would be cool
What would owners recommend?
Of course there's also Marzocchi's
Cheers
Ken
These;[url= http://www.bikeoutlet.co.uk/products/Rockshox_Revelation_426_Dual_Air_White_2009_Maxle_Lite-830-50.html ]White 20mm Rev's at £330[/url]
Thanks Dickie but are the any good?
the revelations are more reliable, more tuneable and easier to self service.The Fox will be more supple at the start will need more servicing. Have a look at the What MTB reviews, gives a good break down of pros and cons.A lot of people like fox because of the status symbol that they have become. I've got both fox and rev's on my bikes and the fox's do need more looking after. Zocchi's are iffy at the moment with lots of reported quality issues.
Have you also thought about Pikes and Magura Thors?
i very much like my FOX 32 FLOATS... BUT, you need to be meticulous with cleaning the wipers seals fairly regularly. with my experience you should do it every muddy ride to be sure!
sorry, mine are the talas! really like them though, bar the servicing!
I have some 2008 Float R 140's on my Five - I've had them 2 years and ridden them a lot, and pretty hard!
I had them serviced recently, first time - as they were oozing a tad too much. Service was £85 from Mojo via my LBS, they came back with brand new 2009 decals and were back to as good as new.
RS are cheaper up front though - if I was buying aftermarket I'd be tempted to go for them. But let's face it - Fox look way better!
I would say - defo get 15 or 20mm if you are going for a 140mm fork (RS or Fox), especially if running a big disc. I run a 203mm and am constantly scared of the QR coming undone (it has a few times). Also -Having ridden some tapered steerer QR15 Talas 32's on a Roscoe - you really can notice the difference in front end stiffness.
Agree with dickie on this, PLUS get them pushed by the reverend flookes and the damping is on par with the fox.
you then have a
stiff
reliable
well damped
20mm
lightish fork
I'd avoid Fox simply to avoid the need to deal with Mojo when (ok, probably when) the anodising goes.
RS - cheaper, more reliable and if the damping really isn't up to your world class skills, get them pushed at TFT and they'll still be cheaper than the Fox.
I currently have Fox 32 Van R 140mm on my Turner 5.5 Spot, which replaced the Pikes I was previously running.
I bought into the whole "Fox is better" thing my riding buddies spewed - utter rubbish. The differences between a Fox 140mm coil fork and a Pike 140mm coil fork are virtually indistinguishable on the trail.
Partt of the erason I swapped to Fox was the weight savings (I know, I know)... but disappointingly Fox's claimed weights are fantasy. My forks weighed exactly 1/2lb more out of the box than as listed on Fox's web site - they were almost the same weight as the Pikes I took off!
So..... now I'm selling (have already sold) the Fox's and am probably going to buy a pair of Revelations, dual air, lighter, 140mm travel and 20mm bolt thru. The best of all worlds...
Would I buy Fox again... NO!
I'll go against the grain and say that I found the 2009 Rev to be heavy, to perform poorly (compared to Fox or better RS forks) and mine needed sending back for fixing.
I'd get the Float, or wait for the very promising-looking 2010 Rev (though it'll probably cost an arm and a leg). The ones I've seen on the web have been white, btw.
Oh - and the QR15 is not as nice as Maxle anyway... Maxle is zero hassle to initially set up and you can put it where you want, every time.
Oh - and the QR15 is not as nice as Maxle anyway... Maxle is zero hassle to initially set up and you can put it where you want, every time.
Am I missing something with 15QR then? Removed fork from box, put it on bike, put in wheel, turn axle till 12 o'clock, fold down tight? It always closes in the same place.
Anyway, floats. I rode a set of floats for 18 months in all sorts, they started oozing like the guy's a few posts back, assumed they'd be screwed on account of the horror stories so asked a LBS to just bodge them up. They changed the seals and serviced them (£45 btw!), informing me that they were pristine inside and wondered if they'd even been used much. (From a quick straw poll of the may riders I know, I do ride a lot more than most). So yeah, maybe I got a "good pair" 🙄
I've not ridden revs but I was quite impressed with the 130mm Recon solo air which is lower down the range.
Revs vs Floats... get whichever's cheaper or you like the look of more I reckon.
Your QR15 just happened to tighten up to the right position.
The numbered dial on the side of the 'dropout' is there to be adjusted so that the putting the QR lever in the 12 o'clock position produces the correct tension.
I Don't know anyone in real life (as opposed to forum life) who's unhappy with either choice, both are really good forks. OK Fox may need a bit more looking after, but if you're going to throw that much at a pair of forks, that's a given, right?
I rather like my Rev's.
I did also like my Pikes (cheapre 20mm axel option I think)
I've got a 2009 Fox Float with QR15 on my 2004 Spot.Seem good so far! The 2010 Revelations might be better because they come with Blackbox damping! Check out the reviews of current Reba with Blackbox! Might be the one to beat!
Thanx Max
I've alway stuck with Fox but, after various reported problems with longevity, and scary pricing, I went with the recommendation of the guys I ride with and bought some Revelations....
Never looked back - they're fantastic. Super plush, fantastic tracking (Maxle) and good adjustability.
Having said that, I'm sure you won't be disappointed with whichever you choose. Just keep an eye on those seals & wipers 😉
got my revs 20mm last wk....nicee
Your QR15 just happened to tighten up to the right position.The numbered dial on the side of the 'dropout' is there to be adjusted so that the putting the QR lever in the 12 o'clock position produces the correct tension.
But it's a fit and forget setting after that still...
Yes, Ken there fine.
Have set of 454 air Pikes on my Heckler for nearly 3 years, bought used, never serviced, still work great.
Had a set of PUSH'ed Pikes on my El Ciclon & didn't like them at all, so changed to the ones in my link - there great.