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I worked at the FC for a while and yes it's a huge problem for them. british mountain bikers don't realise how good they've got it but still manage to act like a spoilt self entitled bunch


 
Posted : 26/07/2020 2:41 pm
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Huge problem? how many a year? how much in total cost? I'm merely asking the question, as it's always used as a stick, but we the public don't see the figures, it'd be a worthwhile exercise for FC/FLS to publish.


 
Posted : 26/07/2020 2:54 pm
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Freedom Of Information request?


 
Posted : 26/07/2020 2:56 pm
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Are you wanting number of claims or cost per claim? A couple of the ones I was made aware of were for £5m each...so if they had lost and had to pay, it wouldn't take many to shut everything down.

FOI would be the way to go for actual figures...


 
Posted : 26/07/2020 3:49 pm
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Think I may try a FOI request for Scotland, I'll post back in a couple of years when I hear something... 🙂


 
Posted : 26/07/2020 4:08 pm
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The legally required time to reply to FOI requests is a bit quicker than that...


 
Posted : 26/07/2020 6:23 pm
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Did see this and thought.........what a waste of everybody's time to achieve nothing!


 
Posted : 27/07/2020 11:30 pm
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The challenge for FE and others is as soon as they touch a trail they are deemed to have adopted it and thus are responsible for upkeep. Budgets are tight and that is why we’re now seeing groups like FE and here in Scotland the FC or whatever it’s called now engaging on ‘wild trails’. In the tweed valley the TVTA have gone about this the right way - setup as a formal charity, board and governance in place etc meant the FC engaged with them and they are mutually now addressing upkeep and development at places like the Golfie. With that comes requirements around dig day supervision, elfin safety etc but it shows what can be done. This extends to Glentress etc as development of wild trails will continue there.


 
Posted : 28/07/2020 8:37 am
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https://www.instagram.com/trail.police/?hl=en

...isn't this what so many people have in mind when FE etc talk about trail building?

but considering the number of trails and number of bikers, is it even a risk worthy of consideration?

I suppose if your job at FE is risk management and your wage relies on making sure you don't get sued, you don't chance it. You eliminate the risks because the riders have no right to be building trails and 'features' etc anyway.


 
Posted : 28/07/2020 8:40 am
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The challenge for FE and others is as soon as they touch a trail they are deemed to have adopted it and thus are responsible for upkeep.

Easy solution....


 
Posted : 28/07/2020 9:34 am
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By touch I mean almost acknowledge it’s existence. They also can’t really engage with one man and his dog. If you genuinely want to build and engage them form a group and formalise it - it legitimises what you want to do and they will take you seriously.


 
Posted : 28/07/2020 8:30 pm
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If you genuinely want to build and engage them form a group and formalise it – it legitimises what you want to do and they will take you seriously.

Caveat. In the current climate this is by no means certain to work...


 
Posted : 28/07/2020 9:38 pm
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