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[Closed] Anyone in the know? (29er custom build content)

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(ton: Forum police are vigilant I see)

Last time I scoured the UK in the Summer I came with almost zilch finding a custom 29er frame builder.

I know Brant has something on the 29er woodsy back boiler but there's no news of that yet...?

So, is there any builder who can help?


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 3:37 pm
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Could always see if Alex aka SingleSpeedPunk founder of Solitude could help out?


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 3:41 pm
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Thanks, I'll ask

Is your T* R* an IF, and custom too?


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 3:43 pm
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What about [url= http://www.burls.co.uk ]burls[/url]? Have a look at the reviews section for a couple of example frames.


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 3:43 pm
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Yes but they're not 29ers 😉


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 3:44 pm
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i have emailed a builder in scotland regarding the very same thing nigel.
and i think if you contact brant, he might be able to help.


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 3:44 pm
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Yes, I looked at Justin Burls. He only does Ti now (Russian), and mainly 26" and I am really after steel.

I'm also after some sizing help, and what I found was if the builder is not very familiar with 29er's he will struggle.


 
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this one is...

http://www.burls.co.uk/albike.php


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 3:46 pm
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ton - hey, group buy discount 🙂


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 3:47 pm
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nigel , email me.


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 3:49 pm
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Yes, thanks for the burls link. I was in long discussion with Justin in the summer.

That 29er he made for Al looks very nice. What I am after though is really a long travel 'woodsy' bike, and tbf I was looking for someone with that kind of experience/knowledge of how the the differing materials will work.

It's quite tricky laying down the coin when the builder has only made one or two


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 3:51 pm
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fair point.


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 3:54 pm
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im having a 26" bike made for me by a gent who makes road bikes mainly.

he has made a few MTB's and when i popped my forks round he didnt know what to do with them.

he has never made a frame with disk mounts. but i have seen his work and it is superb. im expecting to get it before april!!

will post picks when its finished


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 3:58 pm
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You see this is the problem. I found someone who restores and builds bike frames. His work is superb. He mainly builds track and road bikes. He has build one 29er XC mtb

For me, that was not enough. An experienced 29er frame builder will know how changing the gauge of the CS's will affect the ride feel, or what dia DT you need for durability and torsion etc etc


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:04 pm
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Could well be who Ton is on about? http://www.shandcycles.com/?gclid=CPXP-pjSjZ8CFSYulAod9huwMw. Building my new one.


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:17 pm
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how changing the gauge of the CS's will affect the ride feel

ooh, I wouldn't do that.

or what dia DT you need for durability and torsion etc etc

38mm


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:19 pm
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38mm - which tubing?


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:28 pm
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Shedfire Fathead tubing 🙂


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:41 pm
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Nige.

You need to try and talk Martin into selling you his place at the front of the Wolfhound queue.

Or get you're own name down. That'll give you loads of time to ask stacks of questions about stuff that you won't be able to feel when you ride it. 😉


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:41 pm
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Wolfhound - but I don't want a 7lb frame


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:45 pm
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I think they could make it quite a bit lighter than that and it'd still be strong enough for you. 😛


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:47 pm
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Brant - Oh, does this mean there might be availability of a frame, or few (ton still wants one too)?


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:48 pm
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The WH's are gorgeous lookers for sure


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:49 pm
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http://twitter.com/shedfire/status/7402771826

and

http://twitter.com/shedfire/status/7402879234

I have started a "Blue Pig 29" project, but not sure... I'm sort of tempted, but see the above...


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:51 pm
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Enigma build custom steel in the Uk..
Seem like good guys


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:54 pm
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😆 OIC

Don't zealots sell more frames for you though?


 
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I have started a "Blue Pig 29" project, but not sure... I'm sort of tempted, but see the above...

Go on..you know you want to!

I e-mailed Pipedream the other day and they said they might do a steel 29er this year. Might be worth a few more e-mails to them?


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:57 pm
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I did speak to Enigma, they seemed to get a little panicky when I asked for custom dimensions


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 4:58 pm
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Why not go to Dave Yates and build the damn thing yourself? I'm sure he could build most things - he has so far.


 
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I thought about that idea, and building the thing myself. I thought how cool would be, riding the bike you've built yourself!

Then I looked at a few threads on mtbr of how these have gone wrong for folk, mainly in the form of breakages.

No, what I want is the input of an experienced framebuilder who can breath some magic into the design.


 
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Last I heard is that SSP had escaped to the IT world and had fitted gears to his bike 🙁

Nice to see Brant is still being Brant.


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 7:55 pm
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what is a zealot........ ❓


 
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Brant's afraid of them 🙂

I think he's worried he'll create a leviathan 😯


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 8:08 pm
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What about Waltworks?
[url] http://www.waltworks.com/dev/index.php [/url]
Very experienced in steel 29ers.


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 8:15 pm
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Clink, yes for sure there are quite a few US 29er builders who would do the job just fine I'm sure - Walt being an excellent choice. I don't think you would go far wrong with him.

He (another that springs to mind is Ted Wojick) would know what the intended terrain is too, as they have built frames for 'East Coast woodsy riding'. Ted built one a couple of years ago through a collaborative mtbr forum exchange as the best bike for East Coast riding. The finished bike was IIRC was a 100mm travel ~71 deg HA, medium (for a 29er) CS length HT.

While this is not the slacked out LT, tucked in the rear bike I'm after, he has the experience of knowing what people want and how the built needs to be varied for that end

BUT, that still doesn't get the homegrown roots feel into your dream custom bike I don't think.

I want a local bike by a local builder 😀


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 8:38 pm
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Carver

[img] http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=yt6dtm&outx=800&quality=70 [/img]

Ti custom loveliness. Available in steel and with gears. If you came to last years Big Bike Bash you could have won a frame!


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 8:40 pm
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Beautiful lines. Is that a stock frame of theirs?

The chain stays look very long


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 8:56 pm
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Custom build. No cable guides, no bottle mounts, no gear hanger, just clean and simple. Ask Manchester Trev, he lurks on here sometimes and is their importer and top bloke.

If you are anywhere near Southampton give me a shout and you can have a play if you want.


 
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[url= http://www.shandcycles.com/ ]shand cycles[/url]


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 9:37 pm
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bonesetter - do you know what I mean when I say 'build one with Dave Yates'? I'd be very alarmed if anyone who had built a bike with him had it break - he is one of the most experienced frame builders in the UK - don't confuse him with 'self build'.


 
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I didn't mean my comment to come across like I thought anyone would come away with a build that wasn't looked after.

I really wanted to go up and have a go building a frame with him. I even phoned them and spoke to a lady (who I took to be his wife). When I started asking 29er specific questions she got defensive. Basically it didn't go too well, more down to my bad probably, but anyhow I don't doubt his classes and the frames produced. Maybe it would have gone differently talking to him directly.


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 10:30 pm
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Wolfhound mmmm i'm on that list too! do'it


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 10:40 pm
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didn't you just get a paradox not long ago?
ain't dat floatin' yer boat no more? 🙄


 
Posted : 05/01/2010 11:10 pm
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Not UK (again) but along the right lines?
[url] http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=583225 [/url]


 
Posted : 06/01/2010 7:50 am
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Cheers Matt, hadn't seen that thread.


 
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didn't you just get a paradox not long ago?
ain't dat floatin' yer boat no more?

I need a 'custom Paradox' to fit a very awkward body size 😐


 
Posted : 06/01/2010 9:25 am
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does that mean you're gonna be selling your one?


 
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Maybe you should have got the L. It might have fitted better 😉

I'm sort of at the front of the WH queue now, but its not the best time for me to be spending that sort of cash on another bike so it's on temporary hold. That gives me some time to play around and sort out exactly what I need from my next bike that isn't delivered by the Paradox or Jones.

I'd be reluctant to get a UK custom 29er. Not many have built 29ers let alone LT 29ers.


 
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I found it hard enough to justify getting my Jones - but I managed it! 🙂 - I'm sure if you try harder, you'll manage it LOL.


 
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I'm still trying to work out why the Paradox doesn't feel quite right tbh. Maybe the frame is too small I'm not quite sure yet.

I went with the Med 23 ish ETT as that is what my FS bike measures. The FS was a mess up from the builder as I asked for a bigger frame. It wasn't till 2 months after riding it I found out the size. The FS bike feels great.

I know I have an awkward body shape. I lost 2" out of both my legs in a RTA and I had a longer body proportion before! So at 6'3" I've got an trouser leg length of 33" (rider's inseam 34.5)

I've tried all the online bike fit calculators, and what I have tried to do is experiment with frame/stem/bar lengths.

I'm closer now that ever before I think


 
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Bonesetter, if I were you I'd revist burls. If your desperate for steel you may have a wait on your hands... But I'd opt for Ti, no paint to scratch etc & suits the appliction well. As for his experiance with how the size of tube etc will change the ride on a 29ner - it is no different to that of how it affects a 26", 650c, mtb, road, tandem etc etc.


 
Posted : 07/01/2010 5:03 pm
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Very (or after so may, non at all) coincidental,I have been looking at and tonight discussing the Burls build I was considering last summer.

Full custom Ti build, delivered for under a grand. And your dealing with a dab hand frame builder...


 
Posted : 07/01/2010 9:54 pm
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nige, i got a price from who we were talking about...
just under a grand, and he will do whatever you want.

i have thought about it good and hard, and i do not think custom is for me.
i love the whole process of searching, buying, riding, and if i do not like it, selling bikes.
so i am gonna keep on doing what i enjoy. 😉


 
Posted : 07/01/2010 9:59 pm
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Good on yer, who wants the perfect bike 😀


 
Posted : 07/01/2010 10:04 pm
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perfection is something to aim for............
searching for it is the adventure............. 😉


 
Posted : 07/01/2010 10:06 pm
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Exactly

*wallet dives for cover*


 
Posted : 07/01/2010 10:08 pm
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So, where were we?

...Oh yes... I'm looking at a custom Ti Burls for £975...

...High end steel is just as good as, if not better that Ti as steel... feels more alive...

...I LOVE the bikes I've got...


 
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ton, when are you getting the frame? I need to save for when you sell it 😉


 
Posted : 07/01/2010 10:28 pm
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ton, when are you getting the frame? I need to save for when you sell it

i am not....
i am gonna keep on testing......... 😉


 
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Just found this too. Know it's fs, but it's very nice...
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Info here:
[url] http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=6478221#post6478221 [/url]


 
Posted : 07/01/2010 10:54 pm
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i want those forks for my ventana


 
Posted : 07/01/2010 10:58 pm