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Today I learnt that because 29er wheels are bigger, the contact area is of course bigger and you get more grip!

Also, bigger bearings in hubs "roll better"

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Posted : 13/04/2012 2:30 pm
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the contact area is of course bigger and you get more grip!

your post was sarcastic wasnt it?

anyway.....
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/bicycle-tires-puncturing-the-myths-29245/

In addition, Wheel Energy's analyses of tire contact patch have confirmed that 29in tires don't have a bigger footprint than otherwise identical 26in ones. While the total area is the same, the shape of the patch is longer and narrower on 29ers, though.


 
Posted : 13/04/2012 2:33 pm
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I subscribe to MBUK 'cause it cost me £25 to do so and they gave me free shorts worth £30. Seemed like a no brainer.

Every month I vaguely flick through it and hate it more every time. It's easy to forget you're reading a mag that you've paid for and not the new Evans catalog. Loads of the skills and mechanical advice in it is simply wrong.


 
Posted : 13/04/2012 2:36 pm
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a few gems from one article....

Ride enough bikes and you can often pick up the inherent resonance and rigidity of a frame just by the way it feels with one hand on the bar.

the chassis is so stiff, in fact, that we had to spend a lot more time than usual tuning the shocks to feel smooth, rather than relying on frame ?ex.

Steering accuracy is outstanding to the point where you have to deliberately steer slightly wide of apexes and start corners fractionally late until your reactions recalibrate.

he harder you push the bike, the more it justi?es its increased cost too.


 
Posted : 13/04/2012 2:39 pm
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^lmao at that!


 
Posted : 13/04/2012 2:44 pm
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Ride enough bikes and you can often pick up the inherent resonance and rigidity of a frame just by the way it feels with one hand on the bar.

I can tell how adventurous a woman is just by smelling her hair.


 
Posted : 13/04/2012 2:45 pm
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Steering accuracy is outstanding to the point where you have to deliberately steer slightly wide of apexes and start corners fractionally late until your reactions recalibrate.

I'm forever crashing into hedges because my bike 'steers too well'......

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Posted : 13/04/2012 2:55 pm
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Ride enough bikes and you can often pick up the inherent resonance and rigidity of a frame just by the way it feels with one hand on the bar.

Up there with "The sustain, listen to it." / "I don't hear anything." / "Well you would though, if it were playing." 😆


 
Posted : 13/04/2012 2:57 pm
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anyone take a guess what bike they were talking about?

also from the same article

[i]Not only did bracing ourselves against the frame's massive stiffness feel great, but we found that keeping pole position was vital.

Otherwise, you’ll be on the brakes trying to avoid riders ricocheting around on lesser bikes, rather than having the space to rip through turns in a roar of scrabbling rubber and blast through boulder ?elds like they’re a gravel drive.[/i]


 
Posted : 13/04/2012 3:00 pm
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That one must have cost Jungle a fortune.


 
Posted : 13/04/2012 3:03 pm
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anyone take a guess what bike they were talking about?

also from the same article

Not only did bracing ourselves against the frame's [b]massive stiffness[/b] feel great, but we found that keeping [b]pole position[/b] was vital.

With innuendo bingo like that it must have been Cove's latest.


 
Posted : 13/04/2012 3:08 pm
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stoner - yeah, sarcasm - it's probably simpler than your link tho, it's just about pressure, weight and area.

The 29er comment was from a "why you should try 29ers" bit, the other about spec'ing wheels (they also said larger flanges build stiffer wheels, which I didn't mention, cos it's true, albiet immaterial).


 
Posted : 13/04/2012 3:08 pm
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You can never have too many pairs of socks, so I picked up the most recent issue. I thought there were some decent* articles/pics in it, to be fair.

Are the alternatives that much better? I'd have thought the 'how to' (spannering and basic riding) sections would suit the majority of this forum. It's easy on the eye, with half-decent images and it's well printed and bound.

My only beef, as with all 'UK' mags, is that Northern Ireland never gets a look in. Probably 'cause the trails here are a bit much for the soft Englanders 😀

* It'll never win any literary prizes but then again, it's a bike mag.


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 9:49 am
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Are the alternatives that much better?

Well if you consider nothing an alternative, IME that is usually better 😆


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 9:54 am
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hahhahhaaa massive stiffness feels great,thats some funny S##t.


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 10:03 am
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I'm not so critical.

Steering accuracy is outstanding to the point where you have to deliberately steer slightly wide of apexes and start corners fractionally late until your reactions recalibrate.

I know this effect, but I would not describe it as outstanding accuracy. It's just different handling. I think it's when the wheelbase is a bit shorter than the bikes one normally rides. The back wheel follows the line of the front wheel more closely that you expect so one over-steers until getting used to it.

the chassis is so stiff, in fact, that we had to spend a lot more time than usual tuning the shocks to feel smooth, rather than relying on frame ?ex.

Well yes. The frame damping/flexing through rough corners takes out some of the chattery feeling through the weighted outside pedal, especially noticable on hardtails, albeit with some under-steer. I reckon if a FS frame is very stiff, a reduction in rear shock compression damping will help, although that usually means altering the sag and rebound.

The one-handed comment is quite odd though.


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 10:15 am
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also from 'the handy free sock edition'

Each bar twitch feels more significant when you're fighting the trail too. What it does give is great 'reach-around' on tighter trails where 29ers will often run wide unless you deliberately pre-compensate.

When I tried the bike in question I found the great reach around was complimented by the tight circle-jerk and intense tromboning..

the worst thing about it is that I can see myself reading this tosh on the bog for the next 12 months in order to get the bargain shorts available with this months subscription offer..

I should have just bought some socks.. 🙁


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 10:18 am
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"When I tried the bike in question I found the great reach around was complimented by the tight circle-jerk and intense tromboning.."

😆


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 10:23 am
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anyone take a guess what bike they were talking about?

What was it?


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 11:03 am
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santacruz nomad c

Hence the jungle reference

[url= http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/bikes/mountain/product/review-santa-cruz-nomad-carbon-frame-and-shock-11-39739 ]review[/url]


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 11:06 am
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Edit.


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 11:12 am
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When I tried the bike in question I found the great reach around was complimented by the tight circle-jerk and intense tromboning..

What tyres for a tight circle jerk? I'm thinking dual ply, but not sure what tread 😕


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 11:46 am
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😆 Yunki. quality.


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 11:59 am
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I can tell how adventurous a woman is just by smelling her hair.

Must... resist... smutty...comment!


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 12:05 pm
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Sandwich - I think we're past that 🙂


 
Posted : 14/04/2012 12:16 pm