Looking at FR Enduro and FR Trail models of Evoc packs - 16L or 20L. Anyone know how big they really are? I want a durable and very stable pack for general riding, but that to include big days in the Lakes with steep descents (so nothing that my bike helmet will snag, preferably), carrying a waterproof, grub, spare base layer etc. Replacing a Dakine Nomad and Apex combo with a single pack. And are Blacklines wrath the extra £££? Ta for any tips.
I'd be interested to hear people's experiences with them too, i also have a Dakine Nomad at the moment which is on its way out and was looking at Evoc packs. I think they are a fair bit warmer though.
Just took delivery of a CC 16L (it's only just out of the bag) but it looks like (compared to the 10 year old Mule it replaces) it'll have plenty of room (efficient packing) for the basics of tools/pump/inner plus the trip and season specific stuff of additional layer, lightweight waterproof, small first aid kit, lightweight bivi bag (AMK heat sheet) plus food for the day. I'm glad I didn't get anything bigger because I'd only end up filling it. As such 16L should be good.
Thoughts and comments here focused on protector vs standard - https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/poc-hydration-pack-protector-vs-non-protector/
I have an FR Trail 20l blackline one with the back protector and its a large and comfy pack. I use it for big days and coaching/leading, where I tend to fill it. Regular rides I used to use a 10l FR one, which I just replaced the other month with a CamelBak Kudu 10l. That one will take 3l of water, plus tools and some food and a compact layer or 2, which does me most of the time. Camelbak fits me better than the small EVOC which would catch the base of my helmet on steep descents - I read the other day they are shortening it for 2019 as others having same issue.
Hmmm, really not keen on the idea of the pack getting in the way of the helmet on really steep stuff. Is this a big problem them? Guessing it must be if they're addressing it with a design change.
^^^ the 20l one doesn't do it, but my 10l did... Mine was the M/L size and I do have a fairly long back, so I can imagine it would impact quite a few folk. Also depends on lid shape - I use a Spesh Ambush which comes pretty low at the back..
M/L 16 trail here. No issues with helmet interference. I'm long backed as well. My Kudu 12 was just a bit small but the trail is pretty much perfect. Tools/spares/etc in the half pocket, food/glasses in side pocket, waterproof/butty/spare clothes in main, keys and old man glasses in top pocket, pads strapped onto the bottom at the end of the ride and helmet in what the sales person had the temerity to call the 'helmet garage' 😉
The main pocket is full length but of course it has the bladder and protector in there so it's not massively wide. I'm really pleased with it though, super secure (a week is sospel which is steep), comfy and big enough for my needs. Bit sweaty tho.
I have the 20L enduro blackline version in ML, never noticed it catch my helmet at all. If I roll my head back as far as it goes I can feel it touch the pack, but never noticed it while riding
Its a great size for day pack, stable on my back and nice wide hip belt for comfort. A little hot on the summer rides, but it's a big pack. So to be expected.
I have the FR trail as per other thread above. It's very big and very heavy and sweaty for anything less than a proper big day out with spare clothes, lunch, waterproof, camera etc, so I rarely use it for mountain biking, but use it nearly every day for commuting.
FR enduro blackline here, and a freeride tour too
My enduro is used for big days out and has been used for a few bikepacking trips. I've done the odd walk with it too
For bikepacking I use my bottle cages so tend to fill it with normal kit - waterproof, insulated layer, food, stove/mug, tools, tarp, clothes for the night
I find it easily accomodates a bladder of water and enough kit for a proper day out. It is quite warm but its really comfy - much more so than the mule I had before
Please Sir, may I have some more...
As a 3L Stage CC iirc owner can confirm that Evoc are best packs going but that I would have liked more room for my sarnies etc haha.
Maybe I can rig up a food compartment where it can hold a helmet with the cover and straps. 👍😉
Evoc FR Enduro here. 16L I think. Never caught the helmet. Used in the Alps a lot and for big winter days here. Found it comfy and stable but too big for summer for me.
I use an Evoc Enduro 16L, easily the best pack I’ve ever used, lots of storage space and options, very well made, with the added bonus of the back protector.